I think I lost a thread ... similar to this one about when to leave ... The reviewer and OP had posted using an alias about his review with a 5 for appearance and details mentioning outdated pics and he was getting blow back from the provider. GaG and JakeFSF had some replies about the actual age of the Provider probably being 60+ based on her pics. ... Was that thread deleted? Where the hell did it go?
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Anyway, I was going to post along the lines of: I don't need to know how old my hostess is. I don't need to see a birth certificate or driver's license. I want to know ahead of time HOW OLD _I_ WILL THINK SHE IS.
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Traci Lords was 17 passing for 26 when she was making illegal underage porn. I have met with some hostesses who easily pass for 26-30 in APPEARANCE and performance even though I know that they are much, much older.
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Tell me any age you want, as long as I can believe it when I walk in the door and see you face to face.
If the provider's face pics are blurred or if she has no face pics and u make an appt...when u arrive and u see that she looks average or above average, u can technically leave right? I know it's not right but this wouldn't happen often. There isn't a TER black list or something that the provider can give me neg ratings? and the provider has hot ratings but u won't know till u see her
...would be to arrange a meet and greet with the provider. Y'all get together for coffee, spend a half hour and you pay her for her time (amount agreed upon beforehand). If you like what you see, hear and feel -- book the appointment (assuming she is also willing). If not, you part ways, no harm, no foul.
With no face photos, this is the only way to be sure that you will be satisfied with her looks, as it sounds like that is of paramount concern to you.
I think I lost a thread ... similar to this one about when to leave ... The reviewer and OP had posted using an alias about his review with a 5 for appearance and details mentioning outdated pics and he was getting blow back from the provider. GaG and JakeFSF had some replies about the actual age of the Provider probably being 60+ based on her pics. ... Was that thread deleted? Where the hell did it go?
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Anyway, I was going to post along the lines of: I don't need to know how old my hostess is. I don't need to see a birth certificate or driver's license. I want to know ahead of time HOW OLD _I_ WILL THINK SHE IS.
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Traci Lords was 17 passing for 26 when she was making illegal underage porn. I have met with some hostesses who easily pass for 26-30 in APPEARANCE and performance even though I know that they are much, much older.
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Tell me any age you want, as long as I can believe it when I walk in the door and see you face to face.
By the way Taci Lords started in porn when she was only 15. Ironically she only got caught right after she turned 18.
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Thanks! That's the thread I was thinking of! How did I get Jake involved in that discussion? ... Anyway, same message: Tell me any age you want to as long as _I_ will be able to believe it.
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(Providers! Don't worry! It only works with the blood of virgins!)
(Guys: If she offers prostate massage, that's OK. If she offers pineal gland massage, head for the nearest exit!)
how can I find out about getting blacklisted though? I dont' know if I should just post diff questions or try searching the entire forums to possibly see if my questions have been asked before. I saw a girl and her pics were old and her face wasn't what I expected. I wanted her to whitelist me and she said she wouldn't do it unless I write a review. If I write a bad review can she blacklist me? I can use an alias right? but she will still know it's me if I write details. Can I and how can I ask her to be a reference for me when I get screened by another girl? How will she remember me or what info should I give or tell her to use her as a future reference?
You want to the right thing by the rest of us mongers and warn us that the pics are outdated and she is older than the pics make her appear to be. Except that her face is blurred so you can't really say, in fairness, "wasn't what I expected" without telling us that you expected a very young face to go with the body pics. Apparently, previous reviewers (you did read the previous Juicy Details, didn't you?) were "dishonest" or did not warn you or us about the age thing or outdated pics. Maybe they were in the same predicament: bad review = no whitelist or reference; no review = no whitelist or reference.
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Providers do have ways of alerting each other to bad actors, including the TER Provider Only board and TER PM. Some have said here that the national blacklist sites are overused and abused to the point that they are unreliable. There's a huge difference between blacklisting a violent thug-thief and blacklisting someone for an honest review.
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I'm just thinking that you not bother with the review and whitelist (and blacklist) and maybe just post something on your Local Board that others can PM you for details. Does the Provider in question post her ads on TER? Does she post to the forums?
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If you want to use her as a reference without writing a review, I think that should be OK. Just tell her you've been too busy to write a review. You're busy posting to the forums, instead!
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Better luck next time.
how can I find out about getting blacklisted though? I dont' know if I should just post diff questions or try searching the entire forums to possibly see if my questions have been asked before. I saw a girl and her pics were old and her face wasn't what I expected. I wanted her to whitelist me and she said she wouldn't do it unless I write a review. If I write a bad review can she blacklist me? I can use an alias right? but she will still know it's me if I write details. Can I and how can I ask her to be a reference for me when I get screened by another girl? How will she remember me or what info should I give or tell her to use her as a future reference?
If I'm understanding your hypothetical correctly, the lady isn't engaging in deception of any sort, and it's therefore not her fault that your expectations aren't met in terms of her facial beauty.
In other words, if she blurs/crops her face from her photos, and you are disappointed with the unblurred/uncropped aesthetics of her face, that's your problem. You certainly don't have to go through with the date, but since you chose to take a chance on someone who obscures their face from their photos when that's clearly an essential feature for you, she shouldn't be penalized for that.
As for blacklisting, I'd say that showing up to a date only to turn around and leave without compensating her (again, assuming that per your hypothetical, she hasn't engaged in deceptive advertising) is most assuredly a blacklistable offense.
I strongly suggest that you only book with ladies who don't obscure their faces, so that you're not "going in blind," so to speak.
but I have to agree with you that only applies when the woman has been intentionally misleading and NOT just because the OP considers her a "butter face"
If she is the same height, weight and age as advertised, she has lived up to her end of the deal. About the only recourse I can think of is to send her reviewers a nasty PM for their lack of standards.
I will confess, I have had more than a couple of girls answer the door who's faces were more than a little disappointing, but I guess that's why they invented dim lighting and the doggie position. lol
I saw a girl and she weighed 15 lbs more than her photos and they were old. everyone rated her 7,8,9 in looks and she was a 5. I don't know the age of the other reviewers but obviously hornier and older men are going to think any girl who's younger is hot. I stayed bec I didn't want to be blacklisted. Could I have left bc of her weight or would she have been able to blacklist me? bec how can I prove I didn't do anything wrong.
Where it comes to women and I mean ALL women, not just hookers, lying about looks, age, etc is a matter of degree.
Like you, my personal scale for appearance is a LOT tougher than typical TER standards, which often times is a complete lack of standards at all, but that said, 4 years older than advertised and 10-15 pounds heavier is not really within the parameters of what most reasonable people would consider a "bait and switch"
As other posters have said, any woman can black list any guy for any reason she wants to invent, it's a basic flaw in the system and there is no way to PROVE your innocence. The only thing you can do is be honest and develop your own credibility in the community by being a "straight up guy"
My advice in this particular situation would be to simply bite the bullet on this one, write the review while it's still fresh in your mind, but hold off submitting it for a month or so and use that time to see some other women that you have a positive experience with and hopefully are able to write positive things about and this way you will look to be more evenhanded, rather than looking vindictive, which is how she and any White Knights are going to try to paint you if you submit your review today.
Looks are subjective and this can be particularly true if you are seeing a provider of a different ethnic heritage. Sometimes those different features are highly attractive to some and highly unattractive to others -- hence the 8/9 rating versus a 5/6 rating in looks.
The other thing you need to do is look at patterns of evaluation and compare those to your own evaluations of the same girl. Adjust your interpretations accordingly when using that person's reviews for guidance -- or start ignoring the ones you disagree with and find other mongers with similar tastes and review standards.
can any girl falsely blacklist u bc u were safe but u write a mediocre review for her? how will u know if u get blacklisted? if u do, can u create a new username on here or will ur phone number etc be listed and other girls will still know it's u?