just reading the latest posts worry me.
From Bill40s question that seemed to imply how easily it would be to get away with rape.
Then theres the what if she's a "total dog" question.
And the inability to use a bit of discrete in the first session.
And so on...
I do understand this is the Newbie board but it seems to me there are more new men with little ability to show respect or even discretion in their posts You may be new to This the hobby newbie board Ter and so on, but are you really new to how to hold a conversation or ask a question without being so offensive? The same questions, with the acception of bill40s which was way out of line, could very easily have been reworded to reflect a bit of respect and over all less tasteless.
Maybe I am wrong but really, what's up with all this BS. Do some of you Really have no clue? Or is there something else wrong with you that you do not see how off color your posts are.
It's rediculous...
See now I could have said what a bunch of asshole posts lately but chose to use a bit of discretion. See how easy it is! (oops did I just say that out loud?)
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lately seem to have less to do with being a newbie and in more cases reflect a tone that is not only denigrating but also a bit disturbing. I hope that this does not suggest an influx of less than desirable "hobbyists".....
My experience, and anecdotal evidence from providers I have seen, absolutely indicates that there are less than desirable hobbyists out there (bad hygienne, bad manners, crude, rate negotiators, pushy, and worse). Not sure of the percentage, but I fear it is higher than we might think.
I will agree that more of them do appear, based on recent posts, to be making it onto TER message boards. Of course this is often under an "alias". Hopefully, the new and updated policies will limit this.
I'm finding it's a general cross section of the population.
I employ about 100 people and I can't believe the things I have to deal with - many just like what was mentioned in the original post. I constantly have to remind people that they are not talking to a computer, but a human being with emotional reactions just like ourselves.
I just had my first experience in the 'hobby' and the things the gal said made me ask 'have you been with abusive guys?' and she said it is always a worry for her. She's been bitten very hard and I thought that was just awful.
You gals are wonderful - I can't see how anyone would want to do anything but please you into doing the same in return - maybe I'm a BFE lol but I hope you are able to stay away from the abusives.
But then it seems to be a lost trait these days.
exactly and I do wonder, what are they thinking.
Remember Newbies,
We Ladies are here reading your posts as well and forming opinions about your train of thought. Which in the long run is in essence about who you are and how you view these ladies and this hobby. Who we see and why often times is based on their online personality. As does who we do Not see.
Hobbyists need advise on how to behave. Some people don't have a clue on how to proceed in the hobby. TER is a good resource for this. Interactions on TER help hobby participants define for themselves what kind of behavior is deemed acceptable in the erotic community.
Ive got news for you, not everyone needs to be told what is ok to say in public or on a public forum.
Most men as well as woman just know what is and is not acceptable behavior.
Some just never figure it out.
read down over the last few days and posts it's pretty disturbing to say the least.
All cultural behavior is learned. TER's erotic community behavior standards may be new for some people. while some posts on this board may be intentionally obnoxious, others may be obnoxious because the poster is ignorant of what is acceptable expression in this community. There is no way to tell what a poster's intent is unless you engage the the poster in a dialogue.
not only to provide information for the hobbyist's interests but also to raise the culture and facilitate these relationships (of a sort)
clean in your hygiene and act with class.
the many ladies who specify that they like to see "mature gentlemen" or "over 35" "over 40" are generally looking for the manners that used to prevail in our society. I am *not* saying that there are no younger guys with manners. But those of us who were born before 1960 were born in a different world in terms of manners and culture, and were inculcated with a different approach with respect to how one treats a lady. This outlook and skill set is in demand (thankfully as I don't have a whole lot else to offer!)
Yes, I was born before 1960 but I can say, without question, I have raised two children (both off on their own) who have good manners.
and they have no idea how to act with the ladies.
Remember the stereo type of us on the news and in the papers...Many new gentlemen have been caught up in it and thats what they expect or think we must be like..
New gentlemen just think we are a repository and nothing more..hopefully their first appointment will be good and change their minds.
There are some who may be here just to be assholes and have that view of us no matter what. Their not here to join but to make a mockery of this site.
This is an open forum and everyone is allowed.
On a friendly note I am always happy to see a new face and wish all would read the Newbie Manual before posting..
Kisses Haley
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ya i am often shocked by some of the posts in here, as many of you are, especially lately. I mean i get that there is a segment of the male population that are clueless with how to deal with women on a basic level with preaty much anything. But the assholes, and wacko's as of late i will never understand. The only good thing i can think of is at least someone can take down their name and go , ok there is someone that i will never , ever meet me
I think easy access to porn via the Internet as well as cheap digital video cameras (that allow anyone to make digital movies) also has a lot to do with this issue. Back when porn was only available at the local video store, it tended to be more "main-stream" porn, basically just pretty people f**king (yes, other kinds existed just as this kind still does). With the Internet, much nastier stuff is easily available and the "gonzo" porn that is out there now (the stuff from German especially) is all about degrading women both sexually and physically. From talking to my civie women friends, they are seeing some of that attitude spill over into their dates so my guess is that that attitude leads some posters to think of escorts and SPs as "whores" that can be treated like girls in the porn they watch. Hence they don't think of or treat the SPs as the Goddesses they are.
Or it may just be the general decline in the ability to be civil in Internet conversation brought on by the belief that if no one knows who you are, you can say anything you want. Pick any board at any site on any topic and it will be filled with all sorts of postings that aren't appropriate anywhere.