If i take a provider to dinner, exactly how does all the economic components of the evening work? I understand I will pay her normal fee for her companionship/time. I also absolutely expect to pay for her dinner (it is a date, after all). Although i have read that some might subtract the cost of the meal from the tip, i think that's bad taste. Is the dinner time "separate" from the other time? What if we are lingering over desert, do we suddenly need to rush out before our time expires?
I understand I can (and will) ask my provider for more details on the arrangements myself, and make sure I agree to them, but in general, are there rules of thumb i should know?
Every provider is different, some have different dinner rates. You'll definitely want to check with the provider in question.
I frequently have dinner dates with gentlemen and they always pay for dinner/drinks. As far as companionship fee...If they book a 3 hour dinner package with me, they receive 3 hours. Time needs to be properly managed to get ALL activities in during the scheduled time.
As one who has had the pleasure of dinning and shopping with Paris, I can attest to the fact that it is a very enjoyable time.
I also know that there is a salesman at the furniture store who had his whole month's commission target made from the purchases Paris made that day. I would be willing to bet it was his largest sale ever.
I bet he still shares the story of the beautiful lady with the tall old crusty looking guy who came in and loaded up the truck with very expensive furniture for her new condo.
Great question!
Personally, I hate to rush, so my minimum engagement is 3 hours, which gives enough time for a nice lunch, a glass or two of wine, and a sensual interlude. If I am meeting a gentleman for dinner, 4 hours gives us time to linger over dessert and not feel pressured about time.
The main thing is to have your expectations and the lady's expectations clarified *before* you meet, so that your time together can be relaxed and fun. The last thing you want is for a misunderstanding about price to ruin what should be a magical evening!
XOXO,
Aina Montero
The date starts from the time you pick her up till the time you finsh for the evening..the amount of time is discussed and a figure is agreed upon between both of you which is as good as a hand-shake! But for me, the date starts as soon as you pick me up and it ends when we're finished. As like most, i'm not a clock watcher and you definitly get a "bang" for your buck..no pun intended!
Jay
After doing a couple dinners with per hour fee applied, I'm skipping that option from here on after...
If the lady wants to add a fixed extra fee for dinner, or has a dinner package, I'm OK with that.
I really enjoy a nice relaxed meal... and don't want to be thinking that dessert (and I mean the chocolate kind) is going to add an extra $200 to my tab... or even think she would order dessert, only intending to take a single bite.
I've got no problem treating to a $50 steak, a $100 lobster and a nice bottle of wine, but the total cost of the meal has to be reasonable to me.
Before I get slammed by the "an hour is an hour, no matter how we spend it " crowd... I respect that position, and so long as it's laid out up front, I'm cool with that. That's why there's room service, take-out and delivery. However dinner with me can be a culinary adventure... and can take a couple hours (or more).
I have this exact situation unfolding for a date in the near future. I wonder if my new friend will read this post.
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Work out the fee with the provider in advance. As much as I like being with a provider, I have a problem with paying her to watch her eat. That is not erotic for me.
Different ladies handle these circumstances different ways. In order to avoid confusion, it is really better to inquire in advance with the lady in question. There just aren't really set rules of thumb for this sort of thing.
Often a lady will either have a dinner "package" or she will have a lesser rate for social engagements out. Some people seem to think that three hours is sufficient for dinner, and I've simply never found that to work. Dining at a nice restaurant seems to always take two hours, and can sometimes stretch to three or even longer depending on the night and the establishment. When you add in travel time, etc, four to five hours seems to be a lovely dinner date to me.
If dinner itself takes an unexpectedly long time (i.e. more than two hours) or if traffic is particularly bad, or something outside of our control happens, I prefer to linger over dessert and not rush. I don't mind spending a little extra time, (and I'd deeply regret missing my chocolate.) I definitely know ladies who would prefer to "stay on track" with the time, even though they are hardly clock watchers. I don't expect a gent to adjust my compensation for this, but a tip is generally considered polite if a lady spends extra time with you.
~ N
I am not paying for companionship. I am paying for NSA sex. I occassionally do dinner dates with providers and I usually enjoy them, but I do them as either a package deal or off the clock. I would find it completely ego deflating to have to pay someone to keep me company during dinner. It would just reingorce the fact that it is strictly a business arrangement.
Different ladies have different opinions on the subject, but paying a provider for the "priveledge" of feeding her just isn't in the cards for me. I know that time is money and a girl has got to make a living, but I just don't think my company is so boring that a lady needs to be compensated for having to endure it. lol
let's attempt to see it from the ladies perspective.
Now, if the lady & the gent already know each other and she's confident that she'll have a wonderful time that's one thing...
but we've all been on the "blind date from hell"
Could as easily end up with her thinking "I don't care how delish the dessert they just put down on the table next to us looks... I'm not going to order any... and I'm praying he doesn't either... oh lord... what if he orders the souffle (with the 20 minute bake time)... surely I'll die... if there really is a God... please let the next words out of his mouth be... CHECK PLEASE!!!"
This topic reminds of a phone call where I invited the lady to meet for a drink first and she said "I don't do public outings", then she said something about the risk of being recognized in public. We did not hook up in the end.
I don't know how the ladies can actully get through a multi hour date with some of our fellow hobbyists. I could not for any amount of money do what these ladies do.
I actually enjoy the company of a lady for dinner and have had the pleasure on many p4p encounters, but I do have to confess that I will never schedule a dinner date, overnight date, or even multi hour date with a lady I don't already know for the very reasons you mention.
An hour can be an eternity with the wrong person. I truly feel for the poor people that schedule an entire weekend with some one that it turns out they have no chemistry with.
and I guess I'm one of them.
I have no problem scheduling a dinner date for a first time meeting. So far I'm batting .750 (3 of 4 have been great experiences and I've seen the ladies again).
I just love the flirting, the build up of anticipation, mentally undressing her at the table, and the like...
and I also like to think it makes the dessert (not the chocolate kind) all that much sweeter.
me and a provider in a hotel room naked for 240 minutes.
for Gods sake, throw on a robe when the room service guy delivers your snacks. Suggest you leave him a nice tip also.
I hope you have the fridge stocked, the wine bar stocked, award winning movie CD's..(and Im not talking about any "Deep Throat" flicks), a good all night sushi resteraunt that delivers, and room service ready at hand.
Be prepaired to see the provider in her jammies, no make up with her hair in a clippy. If there is a good tear jerker on the tube, be sure and have some kleenex handy and be ready to be needed as a pillow while she spoons with you before crashing out.
There is more than 240 minutes in a hotel room with a naked chic, than sex.
I, being an old guy, tend to spend a lot time relishing the nakedness of a beautiful woman. Hell why should I look at movies when I am paying a provider for live entertainment? Take out sushi sounds good though, it even adds to the erotic possibilities. But jammies wont work for 240/naked type sessions.
I have dinner with my favs all the time but they ARE my favs and it is always off the clock. I certainly don't fault any lady for getting paid for a dinner date but I don't budget for that sort of thing. I book two hour dates and they always either start or end with dinner.
I do see new ladies when I travel but I can't see myself booking a "dinner date" with a woman that I have never met. Compatibility is important for me. You can fake that a little and find a common ground when the two of you are naked and pleasuring each other. It's lot tougher to carry on an intelligent conversation than it it is to screw your brains out..
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Providers normally have "dinner date" rates. If you just plan on paying her "normal fee for companionship" plus "dinner" alone...you may be in for a big suprise.
Your looking at a few hours from start to finish. If the provider gets an envelope for just her normal fee ...she's gonna be highly ticked off...IMO.
You need to make sure you are clear with her BEFORE this date takes place as to what is expected to be in the envelope.
thanks for the tips. It won't be a blind/first time date, it is with a provider i know, and she has agreed to a dinner date in the future (next time i am in town). I just didn't want to step across any boundaries, and make a stupid remark in an attempt to set up the date, or, as pointed out, ruin the evening with an improperly padded envelope.
I will certainly ask her up front, and long before the date, about the terms. Thanks for letting me know that was the best way to handle it!