"You guys CAN cast a vote, but don't forget that I'M the 51%!!!!
and is active and on the loose. I visited one of my ATF's yesterday, and this is the 6th time the mugging team has struck at upscale NYC hotels. The "hit" goes like this: A white and/ or Asian sounding guy calls a touring upscale Indie late in the evening to book an appointment for that night. He claims to be a professional and has said that he is an attorney, a real estate mogul, a financial consultant etc. The guy calls back again when he gets to the hotel. When he gets to the door, he gets right up to the peephole, distorting the provider's view. The guy that comes in the room is a tall clean cut Black guy and sounds NOTHING like the caller. The black guy cases the room and is MUCH more interested in the room's contents than the provider. Next, he pulls out HAND CUFFS and overpowers and shackles the provider. He tears her room apart until he finds her cash. LOOK GANG, WE NEED TO BRING THIS PIECE OF SHIT DOWN!! He has ripped off one provider I know, and has been thwarted on 5 occasions with one of my ATFs. He strikes Indies charging $350 and up and has hit the NY Helmsley, the Millenium, the Grand Hyatt, and others. Mr INFO, or others that know how to do extensive searches may be of help here. The guys PHONE NUMBERS are (917)-XXX-8301 and (646)-XXX-9061. Let's GET THESE GUYS!!!
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Do these guys have work information and all? Are they screened by the girls they already attacked?
I had a funny thing happening to me once in NYC...two guys knocked on my hotel door telling me they needed to change my shower head.
Nothing was wrong with my shower head, so I didn't open the door at all.
I called the front desk and asked if they sent two guys up to my room. They told me no and said if they ever send their maintenance people up, they call the room/guest first to notify.
New York is a big place, full of good but also some bad guys...the place I use aske for the visitor ID after 10 pm, so whoever I see after 9 pm are ONLY guys I know.
that this guy and his accomplice(s) have been doing this for almost a year and a half. He has used a variety of names and favors Indies that come to NY on a regular basis, and have a loyal and regular clientele (Thus more cash on hand)! He has been known to use the hotel's "house phone" to call the provider's room if she won't let him in. The mugging team NEVER leaves messages on a provider's voice mail. Again, BEWARE of this guy and if anyone knows how to ascertain a person's name/address by checking a phone number, numbers that have been repeatedly used are (917)-XXX-8301 and (646)-XXX-9061. I hope we can fuck this guy up!
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Post an email address and do it b/c.
thirsty
These are wireless phone numbers according to my extensive
search 
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If these are local ladies they need to report the incident to
the police. Of course, their numbers, descriptions, etc should
be placed on the ladies only boards of various other boards.
Alsol, if you are serious, you will post w/o an alias so people
can PM you. At least leave an email where people can contact
you. Many, many people will not post info on a public board.
stay safe
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If they want to catch this guy and keep him from hurting others!
Same thing happened to me years ago, and I helped put him behind bars. It was a difficult thing to do, but I couldn't live with myself, knowing he would be running loose and hurting more Ladies!
Someone HAS to stop this guy and calling the police with all his information may stop him in his tracks, otherwise he will continue to get away with this!
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police because they didn't want to discuss their line of work and clientele. One of the ladies is very highly reviewed (mostly 9/9s or better) and charges around $450-$500 for 1st time clients. She is the one that thwarted this thief a number of times and hasn't been roughed up or lost any cash. The other lady,sadly, considered the incident (while horrendous), part of "the cost of doing business".
It's TER's policy...NO PERSONAL INFORMATION ON THE BOARDS!!! I'm sure TER has legal reasons for imposing this rule.
I have no doubt you're reporting honest facts as you know them. However, if we allow personal info to be posted, what's to stop some a$$hole from posting somebody's else's personal info and calling him a stalker just to break balls.
Sorry you don't agree but you don't get a vote.
thirsty
"You guys CAN cast a vote, but don't forget that I'M the 51%!!!!
Who is to say their personal information that they have used for screening is THEIR info, and not a fake front?
If they say they are lawyers, doctors, whatever, who is to say they borrowed the needed screening info from anyplace, and moved fast once inside since there is no chance for a drivers lic. or ID check to take place.
They could say they are anybody, just to get inside.
They may be giving personal info out, but chances are, like much about them, it's bogus and isn't theirs. So in the rush to expose, you would be posting the info af an innocent person.
Something to consider.
Ladies must not be afraid to report this because escorting is a legal business as long as nothing initimate is involved....and I like to see someone prove otherwise.
Please report this because this is serious and real people can get hurt if this is not stop.
Peace and play safe.
the police is the only way to handle such an incident. Too many crimes are left unpunished out of fear. There is nothing to fear, these ladies have done nothing wrong.
xoxox
Anik
Point 1 - All those hotels have in-room safes. That's where the $'s would be kept
Point 2 - Why didn't the women scream the place down? They aren't going to get busted. Makes perfect sense to me that you would scream if you opened you door after a knock only to find a huge guy barging in and handcuffing you.
Point 3 - Most of those hotels, if not all, have card key security on the lifts. The woman would have had to go down and let them up.
Point 4 - What is YOUR point?
2) that these guys aren't innocent. Emma, what's YOUR PROBLEM? You've got issues lady. I'm trying to be helpful to the provider community. Go suck some vegemite!
Here is someone warning us about a dangerous person and you're accussing him of lying. Are you kidding? I know if I was an indy taking new clients I would take this very seriously. Please read my other post. I assure you that "Im not joking". Alyssa
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I understand that ladies do get into difficulties and sometimes with dire consequences. However, that doesn't mean my cognitive faculties are suspended for the duration of PP's post. The PP post has holes in it I could drive an Escalade through. Why he/she is choosing to do this is the more pertinent issue to me. Attention? Revenge? Trying to discourage tourists.....
-- Modified on 2/26/2005 5:37:48 PM
If that is the case, who do you think wrote this? Alyssa
My sentiments exactly. One thing I realized long ago is if You've been hurt or Someone you truly care about helping has been hurt you don't give a damn about using an alias. You WANT the whole world to know exactly who you are and where to find you to get details and help out if possible.
I believe that 646# recently called me. Have they been reported on LI? We are no longer taking new clients but since I used to ask for alot of info most of these guys would not bother with us.
A friend of mine was killed not long ago by a few guys who were looking for money. They didnt have to kill her but they did. It's all about staying safe. Checking someones personal info is most important. This is an extremely dangerous job. One must check the info they are getting and sometimes a referral is just not good enough. There are too many new clients making last minute appointments and sometimes a referral can not be cleared in an hour or two. There are too many dangerous people out there. Ladies please ask these guys for more then a referral when making arrangements. Usually the older gentlemen are willing to give the information I used to ask for which is an office number and two referrals, 24hrs notice is also recommended so you have time to check them out. My friend was murdered because she was careless. God rest her soul. She was very trusting and really didnt think twice about opening her door to strangers. If someone should knock at your door and claim to be police, you should call the police. Don't take any chances. Some of these guys pretend to be LE to get in. Alyssa
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I think it's becoming the norm that providers don't want to loose appointments, so they cut back on how they screen. Ask for less information and no guy is going to refuse to give it. The more you ask, the better the chance you have of the guy calling someone else. With all the LE involvement and knuckleheads that are out there all providers should be screening harder now more than ever.
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The reason these guys rip off providers is because they know an escort will most likely will not report it. You dont have to say what you do. You only have to tell them you answered the door and the guy forced his way in. That's all. Alyssa
There is little excuse for ladies letting the wrong people get into rooms with them. It is one thing for a lady to be trusting, it is another for her to endanger herself.
Ladies need to ask for critical information on potential clients like real names, work phone exchanges and landline phones, AND they need to use the net to check every bit of the information for validity. There is much information that can be gathered to prove that a person is legit. Ladies need to take the approximately one hour that it will take to properly verify a guy, it could save their lives.
Ladies should completely destroy the information immediately after the encounter. Guys that refuse to give out the required information should be turned away without a second thought.
could you advise what are other tips for screening, please.