that have the audacity to apply a surcharge here aren't staying at the Ritz Carlton, the Regency, or the Four Seasons. Most of the providers charging rates of $500 and up, would only get $250 in 8 out of 10 other cities. My great grand daughter Paris, is a gouging little slut too.
Buried in the tidal wave of sophomoric humor of recent posts that is truly painful to wade through, there are two issues that deserve more thoughtful attention. First, whether the so-called "banter" on this board keeps touring providers away. Second, whether providers who tour are being fair if they increase their rates by $100 or more per hour when they visit NYC.
My thoughts re: the effect of this board on touring providers: Exclusive Lee did the right thing in raising this subject. If a few women that Lee knows have communicated their concerns to her, then it's likely that others who Lee does not know have the same concerns as well. As I read her post, she was trying to do us a favor and alert us to something of which she rightly believed we were not aware. Did anyone think to thank her for this information? I will -- now. Thanks Lee for being a truly class act and telling people here what they might not have wanted to hear -- that hurling invective isn't simply funny and can have a real effect. Lee, please tell the providers you know that virtually all of the garbage that is thrown on this board is posted by people who hide behind aliases. Although it may appear that these posts come from many people, only the moderator knows whether those aliases are one person, a few, or many. Please tell the providers you know, that the vast majority of hobbyists in New York are gentlemen and -- pun intended -- stand-up guys -- who treat women with respect.
Regarding touring providers who substantially increase their rates: it's not uncommon for this to occur. Providers' overhead does not cease when they travel and they take on additional overhead in the form of air fare, hotels, eating out, etc. So it's understandable that some providers charge more when traveling and have a touring rate when traveling to ANY other city. I am not aware of providers who create a special NYC touring rate that is substantially higher than their regular touring rate. That is something which would bother me. I understand that hotels and meals can be more expensive in NYC than in other cities, but not by such a huge margin as to warrant a significantly higher NYC touring rate. But as I said, I am not aware of providers who charge above their normal touring rate when coming to NYC.
Do others have the same perceptions I do on these matters?
No need for the thanks but it's always nice to be appreciated. I am sure my girlfriends who watch this board will be glad to see this post and realize they are welcome to New York. Personally wild horses couldn't drag me away from the City. I love it here and can never get enough.
Lee Chase
is pricey and worth it. The Trump
international is lovely, but we all have
our price limit. New Yorkers will always
pay a premium for the Best like Lee ...
yet native talent is great and limits what's
within reason even for the finest of visitors.
I believe it is reasonable and understandable for a visiting provider to charge more than she charges when at home. There is certainly more overhead involved when visiting another city than the provider would incur at home, that is obvious to me.
However, there are many providers that do in fact have a higher, sometimes significantly higher rate for New York than for other cities. I could understand perhaps a somewhat higher rate to cover perhaps the higher hotel rates than lets say NNJ or Long Island, but I do not understand a huge differential for New York compared to, for instance, Washington, DC.
I think Lee Chase was exactly on target with her comments and support her 100%. But I feel I must point out, and I believe I have mentioned this to Lee directly in a PM, that she is a provider that has a New York "surcharge." But I also believe that a provider has the right to charge whatever she wants and that rate can vary in any way that she finds appropriate. For me, that extra "surcharge" sometimes prices me out of the market. But obviously it does not discourage enough of us or it would not happen as often as it seems to happen.
I used to have a NYC surcharge but I found too much "lip" about it so I did what any healthy capitalist would do in a free economy and I simply built it into my rate structure all over the country. New York pays what every other city does to see me now. But I blew off my one hour rate entirely to make up for it...No offense but my lawyer is so damn expensive I have to keep my rates up just to keep up with his fees 
Lee Chase
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I'm glad to hear that Lee. You are a very intelligent lady, listening to your clientele.
I wasn't aware that substantial NYC surcharges are common. That's really not fair, although as you observe -- it's a free country with free enterprise. I would be interested in hearing from providers as to why they believe it is necessary to impose a substantial NYC surcharge. I'm glad to see Lee changed her policy.
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Hotels here are insanely expensive. Do a price comparison on hotels here & in other major US cities. I think you will immediately understand why a significant surcharge is often tacked on. The demand will either meet the fee, or it won't. If it doesn't then the lady either cancels her trip, or doesn't return.
here than any city. Ter boards don't scare anyone away. TER reviews are taken seriously. Take a look at Eros NY. Scammers with no track record come here with zero regard for our opinions, and make a killing off non TER fools. The 30-40 regular posters on this board (out of a city of 8 million people) don't control the NYC escort trade. This is patently ridiculous, and the fact that anyone even believes it is a joke in and of itself. There are 1000s of Craig's list ripoffs in NYC alone. Does anyone really think they quake in their stilettos because of cranky TER members chatter on the boards? This is so offbase as a notion. Ludicrous.
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No one is contending that TER or those who post on this board have an effect on the those touring providers who are rip-offs and advertise on EROS or CL. I assume that the providers who Lee knows don't fall into that category. I assume that they are reputable providers we would want to visit NYC and who do not because of what is stated on this board. It's those providers Lee was talking about and those to whom I was referring. Your post misses the point.
it's the mean spirited jabs, the put-down to the girls, especially singling them out and scorning them publically, and the general nastiness in the counter-points which seem to be prevalent when a provider lurks trying to decide whether to come here or not. I do know two total hotties who would come but frankly after even my post yesterday they especially cringe at being raked over the coals. You can do whatever you want with my point, ignore it, fight it, or agree with it, but the fact is the issue is real to some hot touring women. I'm off to Vegas...bye for now.
Lee Chase
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and still smaller subset that is...well, forthright in expressing their openion, just needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. Nyc is big bucks, fast life and along comes the big city language.
I tend to agree with jeremy, life is much larger than TER NYC board. I don't think anybody entirely depends on this board for provider's visiting schedules, neither the providers nor the hobbyists.
I do agree in principle with u lee, its a good time for the small community out here to reflect upon and dust out their gentleman hats .
the ladies are just gonna give the same excuses higher hotel prices...meals...traveling expenses...blah blah blah....if the ladies are afraid to tour hear because of what said on these boards...than maybe you are in the wrong buisness ...there are alot of other things to worry about in your trade than whats said on the boards ....the boards are a way to express our thoughts..think about it... worry more about who is coming thru the door...so all i can say is cowboy up...or find a new profession...not only are NY surcharges common...but usaully the only place there are surcharges
the bern
Re:Visit to NYC Feb 15-20
Posted by MissNaiya , 2/10/2006 1:09:24 AM
My rates for when I travel to other cities haven't increased.
~ Naiya
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but decided against. One reason it makes sense is the higher cost of NY hotels - Ciara is right, it is not just a minimal difference, it is quite high. Also, not sure if this is the normal experience, but last time I visited - 2 appointments out of 5 showed (2 no shows and 1 cancellation the day prior) - this really put me in a tight situation. From feedback from other providers, this is quite common and thus so is double-booking - which unfortunately is not my style.
xoxox
Anik
I can't really add much more than to say you are right on!. I'm always amazed at how sky high the hotel costs are in NY versus other major cities like Chicago, Boston and DC. Is it right for us to criticize a lady absorbing the economic realities of the cost of doing business in the financial capitol of the world?
Those who criticize don't understand the lady's point of view.
And I agree, Kudos go to Exclusive Lee for the courage to point out the facts.
I will also add, yto my colleague, the gentleman who uses the term newyorkcityman is more the norm than the exception. Ladies take head, most of us are the good guys.
to say whatever I want (otherwise you get eaten by sharks) and even though some find it "pretensious" I know I carry myself with the total Class of a high end slut. I am proud to be me!
Lee Chase
As little as 300-400 HIGHER..
Simply dont see us, why complain, no one else does.
that have the audacity to apply a surcharge here aren't staying at the Ritz Carlton, the Regency, or the Four Seasons. Most of the providers charging rates of $500 and up, would only get $250 in 8 out of 10 other cities. My great grand daughter Paris, is a gouging little slut too.