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Re: Yes and I was very careful to point that out in
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I've never had any experience with anyone on Meth, but she did pass out after only 2 drinks, so it was probs the case.. Its a big learning experience and not something i would like to experience again..  The pimp actually called me earlier and asked if i was going to see her again... That conversation went well with him telling me to expect a visit in NY and me telling him exactly where to find me!  Unless you have seen this first hand, i doubt you will realise just how far gone these girls are...

Posted By: TEDDY BEAR
my first response.  This is a subset of providers, that is very true.  It is very, very, hard for us to tell this from the ad though.  You are mistaken, many addicts are independent and are very capable of writing very effective impeccable ads.  This I have seen first hand.  It just takes a very long time to realize what their problem is.  But spoilboy844's post really set by mood for the whole day.  That shit pisses me off, I mean it really pisses me off.  I have seen women's lives totally destroyed from these drugs and Meth addicts especially seem to end up on this profession since it is about their only option for employment.  Granted I am not sure about Meth in this case, but falling asleep in a public restroom...that is a classic Meth withdrawal symptom.  Personally I would like to join spoilboy844 in knocking that guys "remaining" teeth out (he is probably a Meth addict also).  That is provided I would not get in trouble.  If fact, if he is the asshole that introduced her to Meth he deserves much worse.  It is the same thing as putting a gun to someone's head and pulling the trigger.  The only difference is a gun is quicker and more humane.  Crap like Meth takes over their whole life and their whole focus is in servicing the addiction.  

Long ago I helped a provider who have a severe alcohol addiction get over it and get her life together.  Last time I talked with her she was getting married and expecting the guy's baby.  That was an experience with a nice ending.  But then I have also known a Meth addict and that is a lot worse.  In the end you just have to stand back and leave the offer on the table to help them out if they decide to try and beat it in rehab while watching them slowly kill themselves or walk away.  You can't enable any addict.  Also, often when it comes to these addicts, in many cases about the only time they are not lying is when their lips are not moving.  So caution is always wise.

Anyhow, that is my rant for the day I guess.  That shit just really pisses me off, especially when they fall victim to an asshole as this particular lady seems to have.

Ok, so i met a girl a few months back in NY and seen her for an hour first then a couple of overnights, a great time was had by both parties. We kinda kept in touch by the odd txt here and there and everything was pretty cool..  Last few weeks she sent me a couple of wierd txts saying she was having a rough time but was coping.. I'm from overseas so we never spoke but the odd txt was ok as after all its just biz.  So it was my third day and i was doing the norm of straight out of bed, avoid the tourists and hit the pub! A couple of beers later she txted saying she was close by and wanted to stop by, i was like ok cool.  Anyways she had a few drinks and went to the bathroom, 30 mins later she was still there and i just thought she was on the phone or something when the waitress came to me and said she was asleep in there!  Anyways i ended up taking her back to my hotel and she slept it off for the next 5 hours.  She eventually woke up but couldnt find her phone, it was probs left in the pub, she said her roommate would be going nuts if she didnt call him,  the words pimp/boyfriend where creeping into my head at this point but she had already told me that she was lodging with a husband and wife couple when she couldnt afford her own place.. So im like ok, lemee take u over in a cab its all ok..  On the way over she said he might threaten me about money so i said to her is he your pimp? She said no, she keeps all her own money, he just looks out for her!  Fun eh!  We arrived at this shitty looking appartment block somewhere on 72nd i think and we go in the hallway and out he comes, steam coming out of his ears , sleezy italian looking shouting in a voice like he was the godfather!  And a big fucking dog in tow!  This went on for a few minutes and he was trying to put it accross that he was just looking out for her, but u know when something aint ok and she was terrified. He then says he's going inside to put his shoes on and after a min she followed him inside, the threatening from him got worse and it was a tricky situation cos i could deal with the shouting but if he starts hitting her then that aint ok..  A few minutes passed and they came out and we walked outside, now it was minus the dog so the odds were pretty even so i was thinking do i just take him down or wait it out?  I was pretty much alert but it was still his country and 4am so i'm playing this out..  He calmed out for a second then started asking her right in front of me what shes doing, how much , when she is getting paid and she was like everything is ok, but he wasnt having it so enough was enough and i said to him go fuck off back in your house cos she is a friend and everything is good!  That went down pretty well , apparently i disrespected him!  Anyways after he flexed his arms a bit he stormed off and i said to her lets get out of here!  So we crossed the road and u can never get a cab just when u need one, and yes he returned to the other side of the road! She crossed back over and yes wait for it, he started kissing her!!! That was a pretty sick sight and suddenly everything made sense!
So im now thinking i dont need this and about to hop in a cab when he goes away and she comes back over, i said  pimp? she says no, he doesnt take my money but i need a place to stay!  Decision time again, so we go back to the hotel and i finally explain to her the hard truth of the situation and finally she starts being honest , she says she doesnt like him  but needs a place to stay, so i tell her just get out of the situation, go home , anything is better than that shit! Anyways we decide its best if she goes or he will get mad with her, so i give her some $ cos i knew if she goes with nothing he will most certainly hit her, then she leaves, but returns 5 mins later saying that she wanted to warn me that she called him from downstairs and he is gonna come over! I'm like yeh tell him my room no. no probs and that was about it apart from 2 phone calls 30 mins later which were probs him but a pissing competition over the phone is bs so i didnt answer..
So that was pretty much my 3rd night in NYC!
Did i handle the situation correctly?  I don't even know that myself...  
Should i have floored the guy?  Would have made me feel better, but i dare bet wouldnt have helped her out too much!
It certainly opens your eyes to some harsh reality!! Its not all fun and games..
Anyways you heard it here first if you read in the papers, "tourist in bust up with pimp"

If nothing else its a new read for the board!

These providers have a lot of marketing crap in their ads about themselves.  But often it is just that, crap.  You need to get a lot closer to see through the crap.  Many of them have a past that can give you nightmares.  Many of them do this for a profession because they have to.  This unfortunate young lady is probably a drug addict.  Falling asleep in the bathroom, yeah sounds like someone coming off a Meth trip and overdue for some more Meth.  This guy might well be her source of drugs.

Now before I have a bunch of providers jump down my throat on this, I also need to point out that this is just one subset of providers.  You get all types doing this.  College girls earning tuition, ladies who are real WILFs and just want to earn money and have time with the kids, heck even once had a provider who was an ex-cop (she told me later fortunately or I might have wet my pants).  So yeah, all types.  We just can't tell easily at first.  But this subset you ran into I try to avoid getting to know if possible.  It is just too heart breaking and in the end there is really nothing we can do.  Until they are willing to help themselves, go into rehab, and turn their lives around, we can only watch and wait while they destroy themselves.  If I had to watch very much of that, I would probably have to stop the hobby because it is too sad and in the end spoils the experience.


-- Modified on 6/3/2012 10:06:04 AM

It certainly opened my eyes up to a lot!  When you experience it first hand like that it sure makes you think!!

No shit dude, been there.  It is not a nice thing to see.  Also, you probably REALLY don't want to hear this, but if this guy is that in control of her life then he quite likely is also bearbacking her.  My advice, find a different provider.  As I said, you can't save her until she wants to save herself.



-- Modified on 6/3/2012 10:06:52 AM

Looking at the guy, i would say that was almost certain!  I doubt he could even spell protection!
Sad but true!

Funny that this was the first post that caught my eye on the New York board.
Arg...
(not really funny. painful)

Well, I can tell you that not all providers are this way at ALL.
I'm college educated, and come from a corporate background...
Was marries to a guy who played golf on the weekends.
My community knows me as a marketing and branding consultant. lol.

Now, with that said... my ads and website communicate all that.
A provider who's truly independent and successful will have impeccable ads, and an exquisite site.
Typically the packaging (not just the photos!!) will be commensurate with the product.

If you want a Mercedes, be wary of Hyundai ads.

my first response.  This is a subset of providers, that is very true.  It is very, very, hard for us to tell this from the ad though.  You are mistaken, many addicts are independent and are very capable of writing very effective impeccable ads.  This I have seen first hand.  It just takes a very long time to realize what their problem is.  But spoilboy844's post really set by mood for the whole day.  That shit pisses me off, I mean it really pisses me off.  I have seen women's lives totally destroyed from these drugs and Meth addicts especially seem to end up on this profession since it is about their only option for employment.  Granted I am not sure about Meth in this case, but falling asleep in a public restroom...that is a classic Meth withdrawal symptom.  Personally I would like to join spoilboy844 in knocking that guys "remaining" teeth out (he is probably a Meth addict also).  That is provided I would not get in trouble.  If fact, if he is the asshole that introduced her to Meth he deserves much worse.  It is the same thing as putting a gun to someone's head and pulling the trigger.  The only difference is a gun is quicker and more humane.  Crap like Meth takes over their whole life and their whole focus is in servicing the addiction.  

Long ago I helped a provider who have a severe alcohol addiction get over it and get her life together.  Last time I talked with her she was getting married and expecting the guy's baby.  That was an experience with a nice ending.  But then I have also known a Meth addict and that is a lot worse.  In the end you just have to stand back and leave the offer on the table to help them out if they decide to try and beat it in rehab while watching them slowly kill themselves or walk away.  You can't enable any addict.  Also, often when it comes to these addicts, in many cases about the only time they are not lying is when their lips are not moving.  So caution is always wise.

Anyhow, that is my rant for the day I guess.  That shit just really pisses me off, especially when they fall victim to an asshole as this particular lady seems to have.

I've never had any experience with anyone on Meth, but she did pass out after only 2 drinks, so it was probs the case.. Its a big learning experience and not something i would like to experience again..  The pimp actually called me earlier and asked if i was going to see her again... That conversation went well with him telling me to expect a visit in NY and me telling him exactly where to find me!  Unless you have seen this first hand, i doubt you will realise just how far gone these girls are...

Posted By: TEDDY BEAR
my first response.  This is a subset of providers, that is very true.  It is very, very, hard for us to tell this from the ad though.  You are mistaken, many addicts are independent and are very capable of writing very effective impeccable ads.  This I have seen first hand.  It just takes a very long time to realize what their problem is.  But spoilboy844's post really set by mood for the whole day.  That shit pisses me off, I mean it really pisses me off.  I have seen women's lives totally destroyed from these drugs and Meth addicts especially seem to end up on this profession since it is about their only option for employment.  Granted I am not sure about Meth in this case, but falling asleep in a public restroom...that is a classic Meth withdrawal symptom.  Personally I would like to join spoilboy844 in knocking that guys "remaining" teeth out (he is probably a Meth addict also).  That is provided I would not get in trouble.  If fact, if he is the asshole that introduced her to Meth he deserves much worse.  It is the same thing as putting a gun to someone's head and pulling the trigger.  The only difference is a gun is quicker and more humane.  Crap like Meth takes over their whole life and their whole focus is in servicing the addiction.  

Long ago I helped a provider who have a severe alcohol addiction get over it and get her life together.  Last time I talked with her she was getting married and expecting the guy's baby.  That was an experience with a nice ending.  But then I have also known a Meth addict and that is a lot worse.  In the end you just have to stand back and leave the offer on the table to help them out if they decide to try and beat it in rehab while watching them slowly kill themselves or walk away.  You can't enable any addict.  Also, often when it comes to these addicts, in many cases about the only time they are not lying is when their lips are not moving.  So caution is always wise.

Anyhow, that is my rant for the day I guess.  That shit just really pisses me off, especially when they fall victim to an asshole as this particular lady seems to have.

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