If your older then 30 years old your rates should be lowered, if your overweight your rates should be lowered. Alot of you women who post here are not attractive at all and I cringe when I think of the guys who are seeing you. It seems like prostitutes are like boxers they don't know when to hang em up until its too late.
This idiotic premise needed a reply.
If you really feel this way, and only see providers as you've described, why use an alias to post? None of your regular young and fit ladies would be offended?
I have had my very best experiences, and continue to have my best expereinces, with woman over the age of thirty. For me, the added experience makes for great chemistry.
There are some older gents who are more comfortable with more experienced providers, and they feel more secire with those ladies.
As to overweight, you gotta be kidding me, right? I know some of the very best providers out there might me slightly overweight. Some of the great ones have been BBBW. Your description is analagous to (trying something you possibly can understand) starting football team on size an pysique alone. If the player doesn't have any game, you would still draft them based upon size, age, and pyhsique. C'mon.
I don't think many here would agree with your version of the Stepford Porviders, as the interpretation of what is good and great is all up to the individual hobbyist.
Let's see your real handle (I'm sure you will reply agreement to this post with your own handle, like a self-shill)if you feel so strong about your mandatory retirement/weight campaign.
Maybe you can place a scale in your room, for a fun weigh-in for the ladies when they arrive? I'm sure that will go over like a turd in a punchbowl, just like your post.
Panther
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It's like going shopping. Don't haggle over 'juvenile nonsense; (thanks for the term Panther).
Patronize those who you want to do business with. Their profiles couldn't be more detailed or candid. It's up to you to choose without the immature quibbling over established pricing!
I've never EVER posted under an alias you can verify that with the moderator, thanks. I've been a member of this board longer then most of you combined, thanks. If your a provider and you took offense to my post, what can I say, if your over 30 and your still "providing" you've probably seen more dicks then I would like to imagine so I stick with the young fresh ones. Some people buy used cars with 200,000 miles and say they run great, I prefer to lease a new one every two years. All I'm saying is, is the old run down jaloppy worth as much as the brand new Lexus? I don't think so.
it's all abour PERFORMANCE, sweets. You can be any provider, in any age, looks or weight racket...if you don't have IT you don't survive in this business, period. How many pretty faces with killer bodies appears every day on the net? How many stay around?
The majority of the men do not think like you. Sure, some just go for the youngs and generally those are the older and not so good looking men who cannot get a girl like that for free in a social situation.
The men who goes for older and ... experient ones, are the guys who wants a good service and are not confortable with a girl who could be his daughters college buddy. Or the younger guys who loves sex in all forms and cannot get from the girls they date because they are full of "I don't do this or that, don't touch me here or there".
Is not true that we've seen more dicks than the younger ones. When I was younger I saw more men, every day, than I see now.
Most older providers either started young then got married and stopped providing for years then came back later (like me) or just started after 30/35.
Sure a brand new Lexus is shinny and appealing, people look and say what a nice car. But, when an older SL500 mercedes model flies by, usually guys take a deep breath and wish to be the one driving it.
Lets just face facts, women like Betty and Vanessa are not attractive, maybe thats why they give bbbj's and all of the other extras that keep some clients coming back for more. So if "Performance" means you risk the lives of your clients and yourself, no thanks, I'll wear a condom, get a girl who isn't a fossil or obese and sleep well at night.
as an "old whale" I can still swim better than other fishes in this sea. I might not be attractive to you, but I am for many others. My site, alone, gets between 12 and 15 thousand hits A DAY....not bad huh? On the bbbj, please do a little research before coming here and pointing your fingers at me or anyone else who enjoys to give or receive it. And, believe me, I don't need to offer any "extras" to keep my repeated clientele, which is the majority of my business. What you and most guys who thinks like you don't understand is that I have a gift, I can truly take guys to a higher level of pleasure...just with my lips, mouth and hands. Oral is an art form and I mastered it in many ways. And, is safe...I'm not risking any lives.
"your over 30 and your still "providing" you've probably seen more dicks then I would like to imagine so I stick with the young fresh ones."
I would like to point out that when you say 'your', you are probably referring to the contraction of you and are, as in 'you are', which is spelled 'you're'.
Also, your (not the contraction) syntax is slightly off, because when you say 'so I stick with the young fresh ones', one would think you're not speaking of dicks. Your sentence didn't clarify, and by it's composition, one could infer when you say you would prefer a young fresh one, the one in question might be a young fresh dick. You probably meant 'lady' when you used the word 'one', but you should be careful of how you compose things, people might get the wrong idea about what you're trying to say.
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Watch your NOUNS, PRONOUNS and PREDICATES!
'Nuff said!!!!
I fully agree with Panther,and on the other hand to "complainer"
it a free country,and everyone has different need or preference.
I hope by "reformed" you mean you've left the industry.
How bad was this poster before he REFORMED to this way of thinking ??? 
thirsty
You think that alot of women that post here are not attractive at all? You cringe when you think of the guys that are seeing them? Are you kidding me? What is that old saying? "Those of us that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones". Unless you consider yourself to be a perfect 10 I think that you should be careful on who you judge. Every guy has different tastes. A provider that you may find unattractive, the next guy may find her attractive. Just because a certain lady is not your type, it does not mean that she is not anyone's type. This is why I like that fact that we have many different providers to choose from.
Women, like wine, get better with age. Yes, our bodies may not be as firm and fab as they were in our 20's, but our minds grow more wicked and inventive with every day.
Honey, if you put a 30+ mind in a 20 year old body, the hobbyists would be going home in a body bag. But with a big smile on their faces.....
And regarding the weight issue. Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but most men, if given a choice between slightly under or slight over weight, would choose a cuddlier provider any day.
And no, I'm neither fat nor ugly - but thanks for the tip.
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First a woman can ask any amount she wants for her time and services.
It is up to the client to decide if he wants to pay those services.
Everyone has their preferences. Personally I didn't even have an orgasm till I turned 30. I'm am at my sexual pique. While my body might not be as firm as a 20 year old, I'm still in shape and instead of muscles I have a soft supple body that men love to hold, not bounce quarters off of.
Sure women over 30 may have to offer a bit more than a hard bodied 20 year old to compete with rates. Usually our intellect and way of handling things produce less bullshit that comes along with the less experienced younger ladies.
I've personally increased my time rather than lessen my rate.
This doesn't mean I feel I'm worth any less but I do understand the way things work. For a client to tell a woman that her rates are to high is not his place, especially when there is a plethora of us to choose from just like there are just as many gentlemen to choose from, and personally I want the 40,50 and 60 year old men who appreciates what a woman like myself and my age offers, both physically and intellectually. Not that a man in his 30's doesn't know how to act there have been a handful that have sexually blown me away. Yet give me a man a bit more travelled any day of the week!
The fact that the ladies maintain their rates shows that they aren't having the same input from their clients as from you here. While you may not be alone in your thoughts, there is a way to say and do things without insulting people. (Trust me it takes more than that to insult me! I'm just over 30 so I responded) It's not what you do but how you do it!
you tell him sam us long island guys appreciate qualilty and cant get any better than you
I like overweight providers....i like providers over 30 yrs... and as far you cringen(did i spell that right) its not your money. Do you homework & pick your poison Brother.
As a matter of fact, his post was so eye opening, that I hear by announce, as an overweight, unattractive provider, I will not lower my rates, but instead, I will just give it away!!!
(tongue planted firmly in cheek)
Oh wait.. Been there done that..
Oh well.
I just thank my lucky stars there are men out there that appreciate a woman of any age, size, and beauty.
It's all about the service baby!!
Santino..Thanks for the props. Did you cum yet? 
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Best laugh I've had all day -- thank you! Great posts from all.... Now just into my 30's, I get more and more easily aroused, my body is at its physical best, and I'm at my own personal best! And it's only going to to get better!!
. . . and sometimes you sound like a nut - in this case you sound like a nut.
Take a good look around and you'll find that many of the most popular providers around the nation are often in their 30s. Can your limited intelligence grasp any particular reason for that? Nah - didn't think so.
For the women - when dealing with people of limited intelligence like REFORMED I suggest your rates be raised. If your client has a shoes size larger then his IQ then I suggest you raise your rates and cringe when you think of who else had to put up with him.
It seems REFORMED is a like a over the hill boxer - he has taken a few too many shots to the head and is now totally punch drunk and clueless.
Those who are high in demand are top earners and garner repeat business that keeps them on top.
In this business, you can compare a 23 year old modelesque with a 52 year old woman of the world. If the model is only bringing in $300 a month as an escort because she's got a bad attidude and a terrible rep and the 52 year old is bringing down 6 figures a year because she treats her clients like gold and goes way beyond to please them and enjoy herself, then obviously we know who is successful.
Time tells all.