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How do you all feel about extras
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Just read a review on a provider I found on the board which prompted this question I would have defiantly went to see this provider if not for this reason  
I've run into this a few times with providers they give a donation amount on their site or over the phone then when you get there this is xtra that is xtra  since many providers wont talk about rates over the phone and many won't text which I understand but it kills the mood for me to go back to the wallet in the middle of things  
I'm not disputing the  rate or anything  but we should be able to settle all that before we meet. So you can be in the moment and enjoy yourself let's be honest this is an expensive hobby  this tends to ruin  the experience for me  
I'd like to hear from the ladies reasons why
Just keep in mind I'm referring to doing gfe  stuff  
Not any out of the ordinary stuff

Sure, back in the days of sex magazines and the yellow pages (gasp), there was plenty of up-selling.  Many times the rate was to get them in the door and if you wanted them to actually perform a service it cost hundreds extra.  

But TER makes it simple and takes all the guess work out of what to expect.  If you are worried about paying more money for additional basic services once you are inside the room, then only see well reviewed ladies. You'll know exactly what to expect per their hourly donation.  The reviews will tell you the services you are most likely to receive. She is not going to stop in the middle of the session and demand more money.    

If you are running into ladies who are trying to extract (some may say extort) extra money from you for basic run of the mill GFE services, you are seeing the wrong women.

I HATE an upsell, but I do lay out all of a mans options. I DO discuss rates. But I do have something to say.  

My GFE rate that includess BBJNtC LFK DATY/DATO and just all around a more relaxed session is the rate displaued on my TER and P411 profiles, which also INCLUDE Greek at no upsell. However, I am likely to OFFER the non gfe session (for 50 less) if someone believes my rates are too high or etc.  

In Long island that flips backwards. I advertise / distribute/discuss my NON gfe rate, and upsell for Bbj etc. Because I AM putting myself a great risk of syphilis, herpes, hpv, and many other outcomes. There are 9 diseases u can contract from JUST KISSING which I why I CANNOT do DFK with everyone and anyone I meet.  

I don't trust a client to be clean 125% of the time. Though we appreciate the trust you display by requesting said services- I cant suggest you trust a hooker either.  

Ive been lucky, BARUCH HASHEM.  But ive seen a friend or two go through it. So, cautiously proceed with ypur ventures.

 
And have fun!

Are Long Islanders somehow LESS desireable than people from elsewhere?  Anyone can be dirty or diseased, why are you picking out an entire population?  Personally, I am clean, disease free as of my last test and am just a little insulted by your post.

HappyChanges123 reads

seems really nice and has cute pics. Really want to book with her but she doesn't offer BBBJ, which is a deal breaker for me.

Maybe i should rephrase. My NYC GFE AND LI GFE rates are the same. I just dont advertise GFE in LI. Mostly because LI is full for BareBack providers and peaople misconstrue the meaning of GFE.

Considering the risks a provider is presenting, GFE is never run of the mill

 
Wait, in General i think many can agree GFE is awesballs- and shouldnt be described as run of the mill

I agree. True GFE is "Amazeballs".  As for bareback 1/2 hours?  (Not that I am looking for that) but I don't really see that on LI as being offered.  Now half hours and 15 minute pops are a staple of the BP gals for the unwashed masses, but even that is all offered covered as far as I always knew, even the bjs are cbj.
My own taste lies in true GFE for a minimum 1 hr, sometimes, 90 min or 2 hr session.  BBBJ and DATY along with personality and friendliness are always what keeps me coming back.  Hustle and rush and upcharging during the session, counting how many "pops" and not letting it be natural or fun turns me off.

Maybe rather than stigmatizing by location, just be more selective if clientele from that region.  Just sayin.  Have a good time and good luck!

Only time I have ever added an xtra it's a travel fee but I state the fact before we meet so there is no issue. Secure emailing systems exist so that those kinds of conversations can exist.  
I'm sure though that these women have their reasons. Not everyone has access or knows about secure ways of talking about more sensitive topics.

you are both right  and ive seen some great women over the yrs thanks to ter  
 ive been going thru reviews and i just started checking out the boards, which has really opened up an opportunity to meet  some great women i wouldnt have known of  
I was seeing the same provider for more than a  yr im pretty faithful when i find some one and we get along well unfortunatly she went back home and now im looking for another and just in the last couple of weeks ive run into this problem twice and one of those providers was totally my type i was going to daty and she stops me and says thats xtra  the last time i checked thats part of gfe but what ever.   im from brooklyn maybe its a brooklyn thing but do to my work (restaurant) dont get off till after 10pm and alot of well reviewed providers dont see clients that late espesally new ones which i get.
what im really trying to say as a provider wouldnt you want steady regulars opposed to new guys every day?
in my business you gotta keep them coming back  
nickle and dimeing is not the way to go

I am based in a country where we can have full lists of services our on website which makes things so much easier  

Escorts have always been paid for their time - 2 consenting adults doing as they wish  

In my opinion things that require preparation time like Greek, clean up (watersports) or extra costs to the lady (strap-on apparatus, etc) should be extra's and mentioned before the meeting begins.  

GFE things like Kissing or OWO a girl is either comfortable doing them or not and it's so much easier to have everything in 1 base rate

We have a disclaimer on our site underneath the services list saying that services can be refused to cover hygiene issues

If you've ever worked in sales, upsells are pretty standard procedure. Whether or not it's ethical is another matter. A sort of upsell is even ingrained in our health care system where we are often charged separately for things that could be clumped into a single charge, just to generate additional revenue. So in other words, an upsell is very common.

However, as an escort, I am technically not selling anything. Rather, I am getting paid for my time. So I'd say, in the escorting world, especially here on TER, I would think an upsell is against the unwritten code of conduct.

mpnyc1992142 reads

First and foremost, the main priority for both parties (besides safety, being respectful, those types of things) should be to create a comfortable environment. Especially for a gfe, it shouldn't feel so "transaction-y" and awkward. So I definitely agree- bad way to conduct business. Having said that, as someone who provides GFE, there's several things I won't do. Even if it's part of the gfe, if there's health concerns or something like that, it's normal to decline and that should be respected by the client. But again, saying "sorry I don't really like that" and "that costs extra" are two COMPLETELY different things.
Last point I want to make is to be aware of the providers you're choosing - cost wise. Just like with any other thing, you get what you pay for. Now I'm not sure if this applies to you since I don't know what price range you're looking at.. But usually when the business's objective is just to get you through the door and then upsell, upsell, upsell, and nickel and dime you, they're more concerned with trying to get as much money as possible in that one transaction instead of providing quality service (this also means charging more because you know you're providing quality) and hoping that leads to loyalty and keeps the customers coming back. That's where quality vs quantity comes into play.

First I'd like to say thank you posting and your 100% right
I've seen all kinds of providers high-end that were beautiful but service was terrible and mid range provide rs that were fantastic. I don't go to what would be considered low-end providers  
That last provider I was with which prompted this thread which seemed  well reviewed   we were in session and seemed she was enjoying her self I was being  playful and I guess mistakenly sucked her toes that's when I got that's xtra speech which was ridiculous killed the session for me right there and I got my things and left I realize we didn't talk about toe sucking and it's not a fetish for me just was in the moment  guess I should just chalk it up to a bad experience and move on

HappyChanges103 reads

I'm willing to pay an extra 💯 bucks to fuck a girl in her ass. That's it.

sometimes i feel like I'm the only one giving and giving.... i have regulars who want to pay less for the same service even if I'm not giving less. so for someone new i want to make sure they are generous from the beginning because i don't like people coming back if their intention is to walk all over me

I don't want to see someone who upcharges for kissing, BBBJ, DATY or what I consider to be the basics.

However, if I am not interested in Greek, for example, then I don't mind paying less than someone who wants that service.

Really, I just don't want to be surprised.  A woman can set her fees however she likes.  As long as I know, before I get there, what it's going to cost me, I am fine with it.

This 100%.  If I can’t get a clear picture of what her services are through reviews or her site, I’ll avoid her. Now if I didn’t come there expecting say, Greek, but she offers at additional price, I’m okay with that because it’s up to me to take it or not.

Posted By: Waterclone
Re: I don't mind extras as long as what I'm interested isn't an extra.  :)
I don't want to see someone who upcharges for kissing, BBBJ, DATY or what I consider to be the basics.  
   
 However, if I am not interested in Greek, for example, then I don't mind paying less than someone who wants that service.  
   
 Really, I just don't want to be surprised.  A woman can set her fees however she likes.  As long as I know, before I get there, what it's going to cost me, I am fine with it.

Agreed that those kinds of things are a mood killer.  

Reviews are helpful in terms of establishing expectations for what should be available to you when booking a session of any type (GFE or PSE or anything else)  

I think upselling is tacky and a logistical nuisance; it also still requires a "discussion of the donation" so doesn't seem logical in terms of how to handle things.

..to thoroughly research the companions you'd like to visit. Personally, I don't maneuver in that way as I also think it derails the mood. At the same time, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with upselling. Though from what I've seen, more reputable escorts will clearly convey the different levels of experiences they provide so a potential guest can be well aware ahead of time as opposed to being subjected to that awkward surprise factor.

Some would not think that there is anything wrong with extras. Like I mentioned, upsells are commonplace in all businesses.  

One thing I forgot to mention is, in environments where prostitution is legal, there may be a base rate and then everything else is an up-charge. I'm mostly referring to what I've heard and read about working in Australia. In the parlors there, there is usually a base rate of say, $200-400 for the hour depending on the caliber of the place, of which the lady gets half. All the extras are considered tips and the lady gets to keep it in the entirety.  With the upsells, the hourly rates can still be 300-500 an hour in a legal, safe environment with a good supply of clients.  

With escorting, one is technically charging for one's time. I think this is true about the 'escort' term anywhere regardless of the legal climate pertaining to sex work. What may occur during that time may be listed in the ads or reviews but is not technically, contracted for, whereas the time is. What happens within that time is at the discretion of consenting adults. Of course, in the US, the two consenting parties can still be prosecuted for engaging in what grown-ups do because historically, our government  likes to misappropriate valuable monetary resources to police it's citizens' agency over their bodies, as was the case in Texas vs. Lawrence, along with a few other examples I'm undoubtedly leaving out.  

Someone who upsells is obviously not charging for time, and is therefore, not an escort in the truest sense. Also, that sort of behavior doesn't really conform to the expectations of TER. Even though the guys here (especially as of late) ask for some pretty explicit stuff, the site is structured to reveal hourly rates with reviews written to suggest activities with which an escort may be comfortable in private, not services or expectations.  

At least, that's my three cents...

This is usually for when somebody wants unusual things that I need to prep for or brace myself for. :)  

Charging by the act or a hybrid of time and act is pretty low rent.  Just charge a comfortable rate and treat it like a casual date with a gentleman, rather than a menu for a cheap, fat bastard at the drive-through window to pick from.  

Plain and simple up selling is a bad idea. After over 15 years in this industry I know that being straight up with a price and making it all inclusive just makes for a better reputation and experience. At the end of the day you are paying for a great experience and up selling is a buzz kill.  

As a female, when I get going I don't want to stop and talk about extras for this and that. I just want to have fun period. But maybe that is just me. LOL.

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