It's a sad day........
my main questions are:
1) who was the 15 year old run away.
2) will they come after the people in the database. cause that would be trouble for real.
They're not coming after anyone in the database because I know for a fact that some of my LE friends went to Julie's. Bust the common hobbyist and you bust LE as well.
My only guess for the underage girl would be [deleted by moderator]. As she was rumored to be 17, not 15, at one point. don't know who else it could be. any other guesses?
[Something tells me that going down this road doesn't help anybody - thirsty]
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I think that the police's main concern was this 15 year old. Her parents were probably looking for her and L.E. got a tip that she was working for this agency...
Kym xoxoxo
a sad day indeed...first high-end agencies, now julies, what would happen to this business if a high profile indy was busted?
Nope. It's this "morals" climate that started since Giuliani was in office. Hey, anybody have any clue who the 15 year old was that's referenced in the article? I had no idea she had somebody that young working there.
one of the reasons they kept changing locations and flipping properties. You may also remember that for certain periods of 2004, they were only taking regulars. Pink is apparently resorting to this now. Sounds like LE has a hard on (pun intended) for ALL agencies. To my knowledge this is unprecedented. You'd think gangs and drugs and terror would be a MUCH higher priority. Go figure.
Agreed!
This was a blow to the middle classed "budget minded" hobbyiest!
Let's only hope that our glorious Homeland is in fact SECURE and that resources are not being wasted on petty victimless "so called"crimes.
That being said,it broke my heart to see that gorgeous young actress's life taken on the streets of Manhattan last evening.I had an opportunity to see her SO grieving on the news and how she died in his arms. He looked bably bruised also.The people whom perpetrate these kinds of crimes are the real hoodlums.I hope they catch thse thugs real quick;lock em up and throw away the key!
Can you point me to a link on this story? I didn't hear it.
Thanks,
thirsty
They really can't or don't want do anything about the real problems, education, terrorism, homelessness, unemployment, exporting jobs aboard, but closing down a an honest house, well that they are good at. As far as the under age girl, lets not jump to conclusions, remember Tracy Lords and Alexandra Quinn both fooled a very sophisticated porn industry, all those that been there knows it did not look like a white slavery racket. Just my 2 cents.
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last i heard vice focused on the smut shops... gangs, drugs and terror were handled by atu...
Julie's was not smart in that they gave us hobbyists PIN numbers and put our information into their computer. What's gonna happen to us for their stupidity?
If you knew about PIN numbers and used the service anyway, it wasn't just their stupidity sorry.
I'm not a lawyer, but from my understanding unless you were actually caught last night, nothing is going to happen to you if you've visited in the past. It's too tough to prove that you did "anything" and I believe prostitution is just a misdemeanor anyway. From the article, it sounds like they're a lot more concerned about the drugs and money laundering. So I wouldn't sweat too much about it.
If Julie actually knew that one of her girls was underage then I, for one, am fine with the raid. After many years of running a very successful operation, bringing in a minor was plain stupid.
This is a hobby where two consulting ADULTS should be able to engage in activities that the government has no right to intrude. On the other hand...
Employing a 15 year old was WRONG. It sickens me. I would take no pleasure in taking advantage of a misguided youth.
There are so many beautiful women of a consentual age in this field, enjoy their companionship and my the real "pervert" get what they deserve.
JJ
So far there is an allegation of an under age girl working there, however she was not arrested. There is no proof at this time, that I have heard, that supports the allegation. Now don't get me wrong, if they were employing underaged girls then they should be hung.
Doesn't matter if you weren't there last night. If minors were involved, LE WILL figure out which johns saw those minors and bust them for endangering the welfare of a child. Forget whether or not the charges will stick. Just being arrested and accused is enought to damage ones life for a very long time.
LE does not have the task force or the time to chase after johns who saw the minors. They wanted Julie so she could no longer practice putting minors at risk. They got her and its over.
From what I understand and remember - it was only first names
Underage girl?
I've been there a few times, and the reason I stopped going was because all the girls were overaged, never saw any young underage girl there. Good thing too, if there were young girls there I would of gone there more often and could off been caught on surveillance tapes.
Whoever said that they are going to look for the people who allegedly met the so called underage girl is probably just BSing. Do ya think Julies kept records of what John met what girl?
Do people who have visited Julies in the past, but not within the past 3 months have anything to worry about?
Whoever has used Julie's and knows Julie is basically screwed. Think about it she will name names if it will lessen her time. Pimping a minor is not a misdeanmor. She will name some tricks that slept with the little girl and tell the po pos that the tricks knew about it or bs just to get off on a lesser charge. Your word against hers at the end. Your arrest in front of colleages or family will ruin you just as bad as AIDS can. This is the truth.