I'm new, have seen only one massage girl at a place where they advertise compliance with law.
So you may consider me as never having seen a "real" provider.
I'm as new as it gets if you don't count the legal but erotic massage.
I suppose the trick is finding the somewhat newbie friendly but established lady without trouble signs in her review history.
Since I'm new I was looking for some of the trouble signs and things I wasn't aware of.
I wasn't sure if pimps are hard to spot or if there's one behind just about every provider who is new or without a profile showing independent.
Well something isn't smelling right here.
You've been working the new thing for a year or close to it. Pimps ,and Canada post doesn't seem like a line of questions by "dude "thats never gotten past legal erotic massage. .
I'm as new as it gets if you don't count the legal but erotic massage.
I suppose the trick is finding the somewhat newbie friendly but established lady without trouble signs in her review history.
Since I'm new I was looking for some of the trouble signs and things I wasn't aware of.
I wasn't sure if pimps are hard to spot or if there's one behind just about every provider who is new or without a profile showing independent.
1. Avoid Grayhound bus stations. That's where pimps do all their recruiting.
2. Avoid Backpage providers and use your TER membership to scout out the quality indie girls.
Do people actually ride the Greyhounds anymore? I know the girls used to travel by bus years ago and the pimps were there. Is that still true? (Shows how out of date I am, huh?)
...The TER reviews, I know of no way to be totally sure that a pimp is not involved but providers with a long & substantially positive review record are generally quite safe, but aren't always open to newbees.
p411 claims that no client has ever been cuffed by LE when visiting a p411 listed provider. p411 providers have to have a couple reviews and prove their ID's to p411 to get listed.
Help me out here, this had to be 7 or 8 yrs ago. Anyone remember what service ? I remember some hobbyiests were contacted by LE but it never amounted to much
No. p411 is not located in the US so there would be no legal way for LE to get the clients -- plus p411 does not keep real life ID information on file. Just long enough to verify you through their methods -- or clear your subscription payment by CC (that's why they can't do recurring billing, they don't keep your CC info.) All they keep is your email address and link it to the number you are assigned.
The last major incident involving p411 and LE was, I believe, about 5-6 years ago in Denver when some providers okayed LE as clients. Those LE were then able to bust providers using their p411 okays. No clients were busted. No p411 lists were obtained.
It's possible a provider might get busted and have kept client info, but other than being embarrassing if published, there's really no evidentiary value in it as far as criminal prosecution goes. Doesn't have anything to do with p411 lists, other than she might have used the service to get some of the customers in her own database.
P411 is public like most sites, yes they have access to anything.
If they get my p411 info all they'll get is some cryptic p411 account number and an anonymous email address.
LOL in St Louis they printed it out my P411 and used it against me for not having a permit, 600.00 fine. I'm not a member anymore.
There must be more to the story. Your cover must have already been blown for them to link your real identity to the p411 account.
It has been a few years ago, but I was given a number to a UTR escort …so I called her…yes I’m almost positive it was her. I go to the location and parked on the street where I was told too. It was night and not the greatest area if I remember right…damn where is she?
The phone rings, it was a guy and we go thru the loops. A bit later it rings again and he asked me what car I’m driving? I was parked on the opposite side of the street from the building, then a suburban crosses the road and come head on towards me. His lights are still on, I see him and a few young ladies in the vehicle. He gets out and walks over to the driver’s side and we communicate… blah blah blah. I proceeded to the date
Here is one thing that he did not know and he came real close to meeting…his name is Samuel Colt…on my lap.
could have met his friends Smith & Wesson. Someone likes playing with fire. How and why would you go to (or go through with) an appointment if you feel you need to have a Colt on your lap? Holy shit. Someone likes living on the edge.
Person 1: Do you carry a gun everywhere you go?
Person 2: No, I only carry a gun when I think I won't need it.
Person 1: You mean you wouldn't carry a gun if you thought you would need it?
Person 2: No, I wouldn't go somewhere where I thought I would need a gun.
go for pussy if I thought I'd need a gun.... other than my appendage. (An old Marine Corps chant... "This is my rifle, this is my gun, this one's for killing, this one's for fun")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n93qN5YQlo
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