the 90 day wonders are splitting the fee with the agency/org, so they make less, but the girls making close to $40K are independent and ONLY pay the booker fee, usually $25. They work out of their own place and have a 90-day girl bringing in $9-10,000 a month as their roommate in the other bedroom. Put the roommate income with their own, then deduct the apartment rent, and they get at or near $40K with no problem. I agree they don't get the $40k just from their own fucking. They run a two-girl business. That's how they get there. "Doing the math" only works if you have ALL the information and know what you're talking about. Its nice you have a 90-day wonder friend, but they are the ones working for someone else, not owning their own place. You need to be independent and have another girl working for you to make the big money. Even if your friend was only a 90-day wonder, she wasn't very good if she only netted $40,000 for 90 days. Most girls make at least $60,000 for 90 days.
Guys and Ladies,
Can someone please clue me in to tipping (sorry if this belongs in newbie, but I'm not a newbie). CDL says he tips every time. I don't - I've tipped a few times for truly awesome service. However, I ALWAYS tip at a restaurant, hotel, taxi, etc. Am I out of line? I kinda assume these services are "all inclusive". However, I'm certainly willing to adjust my behavior to match social mores and I obviously want to avoid looking cheap in front of potential ATF's. And for those of you that say "A tip is always expected" please provide a % for reference.
I was raised that you always tip for services of a "personal nature." I tip my barber, shoe shiner, masseur/masseuse, taxi driver, concierge, tailor, dressing room valets at the golf club, parking lot valets, food servers, bartenders, doormen, dry cleaner, etc. What could be more "personal" than getting naked and having sex with a provider. How can I not tip a provider?
With that said, if the service was not that good, I simply will not repeat, but I will still tip on my way out. With providers, as an added bonus, a tip will almost always assure you of a good reference to another provider.
Ok, you really tip your dry cleaner?? That's awesome or crazy...not sure which; I digress. What do you normally tip? I usually see providers in the 400-600 range. Percentage? Flat fee? Inquiring minds want to know.
...not expected." It's been also said that the best tip you can give is to show up clean, be on time and leave on time. If you really want to give her a good tip, give her some repeat visits.
I'll also disagree with CDL. It's fine to tip the service people he listed, but they don't earn the hourly rate of providers. When was the last time anyone tipped their lawyer or doctor? And no provider can ream you like a lawyer or give a prostate exam like a doctor.
You can also do what I do - when I see a provider who's having a $100. off special, I usually give them the $100. as a tip.
That's very funny and true. You don't tip a doctor or lawyer. The reason for tipping is that the people listed are getting minimum wage or below for bartenders. That being said, I have paid more when their rate is lower than it should be and I pay the full freight and not "special rates" as well.
I rarely tip, it's when I see a new provider whose rate is way below what she should be chargeing and who has knocked my socks off with a great session. And guys don't worry, I don't tell her to raise her rates.
I will bring a gift, once in awhile that I see on a providers web site gift list.
As has been mentioned show up on time, spic & span clean, with the correct donation, be respectful, and leave on time and you'll be fine.
Can someone please clue me in to tipping (sorry if this belongs in newbie, but I'm not a newbie). CDL says he tips every time. I don't - I've tipped a few times for truly awesome service. However, I ALWAYS tip at a restaurant, hotel, taxi, etc. Am I out of line? I kinda assume these services are "all inclusive". However, I'm certainly willing to adjust my behavior to match social mores and I obviously want to avoid looking cheap in front of potential ATF's. And for those of you that say "A tip is always expected" please provide a % for reference.
I always give at least something extra, whether it's a tip or gift card or both. This topic has been discussed before and tipping does not seem to be the expected norm, like in bars or restaurants. Still, I tip for almost all transactions, so do it for my providers as well.
In my years in this biz (20 or so), the one constant I always hear. Tipping is nice, but repeat business is better. Thats the best tip that you can provide (per the ladies).
I have never tipped anyone in this biz. However, I have seen may ladies 10 times or more. And believe me, thats much more appreciated.
The reason why we tip bartenders, servers, etc. is that their wage is kept low because of the tips they receive. We may give a higher tip (or a lower tip) depending on the service.
My two centavos
I agree with all of what Bond said. I do not tip providers. I repeat.
Providers aren't making a low hourly wage, so I don't see the need to tip.
Occasionally, I have brought gifts, from very small to something more notable, but it's rare for me to do so.
There's nothing wrong with tipping in this hobby, but no one should feel compelled to do so.
We ladies are offering a service. If you had a good time, and she went above and beyond the call of duty, kept a smile on her face and made sure you left with a smile on yours, what's wrong with a little extra thank you? She will be sure to remember you warmly next time you call and might even rearrange her day to accommodate your schedule. A little extra kindness goes a long way.
Kisses
Megan
I like your 2cent's
Tipping is for those in service areas who don't make a lot of money and
depend on tips for their livelihood. Waiters, barbers, delivery men, etc.
For services where the provider of those services makes as much or
even more than their customers tips aren't required or even expected.
Do we tip our doctors, dentists, lawyers for services rendered?
Those making a good living do not require or expect tips. What should
you do, give a 20 to someone who has made at least 150 or more for the
last hour? I have never tipped and have always gotten the best service that
I could possibly have gotten. Over and above the norm based on reviews that
I've read. In addition they welcome me back again and again.
and in that case I just give her all my money...
I always bring clothes - because I am in that business and I love the fashion shows. Sometimes it's a substantial amount worth of clothing... When I connect with a girl that loves books or antiques I bring those too...
If any of you have been over to Victoria Baker's crib and noticed all the killer one of a kind stuff there - 90% of it came from me...
To each his own - I don't think it's a big deal 
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The only time I tip is if the lady really went out of her way to see me. It's not exactly like the rates we pay are minimum wage rates. So I assume tip is included. However, I have been known to toss in an extra $80 if it was clear the lady put in a lot of effort to see me. Also, a favorite of mine drives all the way to my area just to see me. So I often "tip" her what the room she got cost because I know she is making the drive just to see me.
That's a tip my father gave me. Yes, I've posted that before.
I see a couple of ladies in a very competitive market. My ATF there charges less than the other ladies I see and I make that up to her with a tip.
I also do some duos with ladies that have different rates. I make sure that they both get the same rate, so I guess one is getting a tip.
Aside from those situations, like was said before, I tend to repeat with the ladies I really enjoy and they seem to be happy with that.
I usually reimburse them for the room.
Just think if every client reimbursed them for the room
they would have a second profitable business on the side.
Hotel rental service.
That goes back to my original point. Maybe we should pay
a portion of our Doctor's rent. Kind of like paying for a hotel
room as a tip. Like any business it's their cost of doing business
and that room is actually somewhere in the donation. It always is.
I never met a provider that makes as much as a doctor. Doctor's upsell all the time. They add a bunch of stuff to the bill that is itemized. The insurance company pays, and not us. I recently had one put a thing like a digital clothes pin on my finger to measure blood oxygen. It took 30 seconds, the device can probably be used with a thousand different patients, and they bill $15. If a provider upsells, the customer gets pissed. Most of the guys, including me, complain when a Russian girl wants to add $25 for a BBBJ, so I don't think we can compare providers to doctors. Doctors have a license to steal. Providers don't. When you give you a good menu and good service, why not show your appreciation that they didn't try to upsell you?
OTOH, I know a couple of showroom maître d's in Vegas that make as much as doctors (over $500K a year), and 95% of their income is from tips. Personal service is "personal" service. Doctors and lawyers are "professional" services. If you don't tip your maître d', you wind up sitting in the cloak room.
I wasn't saying that they make as much as a doctor. What I was saying is
that they are in a good income bracket and don't depend on tips as do
waiters, delivery boys, etc. That being said there are some lawyers who
do not make much money. Should we tip them? They would look at you
as if you're crazy. I'm from N.Y. where we tipped just about everyone but
never someone who is making close to or more than six figures. So let's
not compare actual salaries. Some are higher (doctors) and some are
lower (lawyers) and it's not for the category of service either. It has to do
with need for tips and those working for them to make ends meet. Providers
have that same license to steal. If you want to pay extra for BBBJ which is not
a tip, but is a quote for service, then you do it. If you don't want the extra test
that a doctor recommends you can choose not to take that too. The word TIP
comes from To Insure Promptness. When you're making that kind of money
it becomes moot.
You actually make my point with the Maitre d' example. They
work for quite a low wage and need the tips that they get to survive. Yes their tips
may be quite lucrative but It's a matter of need and not the kind of service they provide.
I never met a provider that makes as much as a doctor. Doctor's upsell all the time. They add a bunch of stuff to the bill that is itemized. The insurance company pays, and not us. I recently had one put a thing like a digital clothes pin on my finger to measure blood oxygen. It took 30 seconds, the device can probably be used with a thousand different patients, and they bill $15. If a provider upsells, the customer gets pissed. Most of the guys, including me, complain when a Russian girl wants to add $25 for a BBBJ, so I don't think we can compare providers to doctors. Doctors have a license to steal. Providers don't. When you give you a good menu and good service, why not show your appreciation that they didn't try to upsell you?
OTOH, I know a couple of showroom maître d's in Vegas that make as much as doctors (over $500K a year), and 95% of their income is from tips. Personal service is "personal" service. Doctors and lawyers are "professional" services. If you don't tip your maître d', you wind up sitting in the cloak room.
You seem to tip based on need, whereas I tip as a reward for good service and to encourage good service in the future. If I was going to tip based on "need" then I would have to tip the homeless guy who wants to wash my windows when I'm at a stop light. I would rather not encourage them to come anywhere near me or my car, so I would not tip even though he probably needs it more than anyone else.
The modern origins of tipping was on transatlantic ships where your cabin and dining room stewards would give you an envelope that had "TIPS" written on it, and you would put your money in the envelope. It stands for:
To
Insure
Proper
Service
So for me, tipping is about service, not need, but you, of course, have every right to see it differently. This practice is still alive, particularly on European-based cruise lines.
A lot of the new younger guys that are joining the Kgirl hobby scene are tippers, and the feedback I get from the girls is that they like it. Who wouldn't? Lol
is another way to tip. It turns into cash if she can book another customer after you and the room is already paid for. It means she has no overhead cost for the room on the second and/or subsequent appointment. You're the one that made that possible, and she will remember that the next time. A show of generosity leads to a lot a reciprocity in his business. The most valuable perk I get from being a tipper is scheduling priority. If I wasn't able to get the appointment times I want, I would not be able to hobby as much as I do.
50.00 in one and 100.00 in the other. Most I saw got 100.00
On repeat visits I would put the tip in the donation because I knew the level of service I was going to receive.
I am a good cook so many times I bring food. Many times providers don't have time to eat so I help out. I love the look on their face when I show them. Sometimes I make a dish thay can be enjoyed as part of the "warm-up" before the sex (think shrimp!). There was one provider that I saw that would keep the 6-9pm slot open for me when I booked. We'd cook together, enjoy wine, chat, and then had fun.
If you can afford to do so and if you've had a nice time !