Exactly. TER has banned links from at least three different ad sites (possibly more). The utility of a review site that does not allow links to ads is marginal at best. I know that I won't be renewing my VIP status when it expires.
Too bad as they really did have the chance to become THE review site regardless of where the providers advertise. I believe that they seriously underestimated the value of the convenience of going directly from a review to an ad.Banking on the "quality" of reviews is a poor choice as any site that offers free VIP status in exchange for reviews will ALWAYS have fake reviews (good and bad).Is the blog that allowed TER members to review the LA K-girls no longer being recognized by TER? The profile of previously reviewed gals now indicates "report new website". PM me if you wish. Ciao!
it seems like all the good kgirl reviews have stopped because of it
I hope TER knows what they are doing. This is a big segment of the biz and by disallowing links from the site that had "reunite the kgirls with there reviews on TER" as one of their mission statements, TER is shutting out the entire segment. It's going to go somewhere... seems to me that the solution would be to figure out a strategy, or more closely examine the facts.
- I believe TER has been misinformed by someone with ulterior motives. -
I hope this message gets beyond the local mods. This is a big move and worthy of further investigation.
Anyway, without the reviews here, I no longer see the relevance of this board.
Good luck to you all.
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There are sites acceptable to TER. Look at profiles for Pepsi & Missa / Coco.
I think it's just up to the Kgal community to be creative & versatile.
There are also other sites acceptable to TER, I think, such as City Source & MyProviderGuide.com. I've seen these for indies' profiles.
...have ad sites acceptable to TER. I don't understand why some guys are so hung up on the site that's no longer acceptable to TER. There are quite a few alternatives. Is someone telling them to complain about it?
K-girls and agencies in many other parts of the country have home pages in addition to ads. They have no problems getting TER reviews that way. Perhaps LA K-girls and agencies could do the same. They will have better control over their web presence as well.
Like Seg, without the ability to post k girls reviews here, I gain no benefir from the relationship.
I completely agree with Tomcat. The OC and SD agencies that have been around for years have their own websites. I especially like that some put up a weekly calendar which allows hobbyists to plan their week around their playtime. It allows me to hobby two or three times a week when my work is slow, which I could never do if I could only book last minute, like they seem to promote in LA. I never understood what the obsession in LA is with the "Available at x:xx in the ads. What, is somebody driving around and suddenly looks down and sees he has an erection, so he needs to find out who is available in the next ten minutes? If the LA agencies build their own websites, the screening may have to be a little more diligent like it is in OC/SD, but it would make the marketplace much more orderly and civilized, not to mention make it easier to review the LA K-girls here. It may mean that the LA market will have to lose some market-share to the OC agencies before they get it.
because it's easy to pre-book and plan your week if you're established. A calendar would be of minimal value. And as far as immediate wood - all "available now" means is that the girl is working that day and slots are open. So if you got wood "now" you might need to hold it for a while depending upon timing and her popularity because the true "now" times might already be booked.
Novel idea - hobbyists should hobby rather than trying to tell them how they should run their business. OC and SD been around for years? I don't keep stats, but there have been a lot of LA k-girls for a lot of years. So LA business seem to have a clue as to what they're doing.
I guess I'm a little too cheeky for the serious types. I'll try to dumb it down a little in the future so you will get the joke.
Guess I should have dumb down the hold on to it for a while reference
It seems like nobody wants to be associated with a site known for extortion and blackmail tactics. After they have been exposed for extorting K-girls and having hidden agendas, pushing their sponsored agencies, TER has taken a good step in banning the site. Yes, we will have fewer reviews for K-girls on this site but it would decrease LAKS' leverage as they continually use their blog to extort girls for discounts and freebies while they bash anyone else who refuses to give in to their predatory ways. There's been more than enough evidence posted on the blog to show how much favoritism these guys have and how there are extreme biases for certain girls while other girls get bashed with bad reviews. Mufftime has openly admitted to colluding with other members to create fake reviews for girls who he has never even seen. Amazing
The bottom line in all of this is that TER has made a decision that makes it almost impossible for TER members to write a review or discuss a K-girl with attached links over here. Yes, there are some other sites and possible alternatives but the vast majority of LA K-girls, their bookers, and their agents are not going to jump through hoops so that the gals can be reviewed here. They are basically very happy with that other highly visible banned ad web site and its review link. As far as the issue of fake reviews that keeps popping up, I don't think it's germane here. The K-girls (and probably any other providers for that matter) are not going to get involved with reviews unless they are derogatory. If they're laudatory, that's just good advertising for them. That also holds true for the fake reviews that have occurred over here as well. But back to the main issue. So who are the losers in all of this? Not the K-girls. Not TER since their actions have made it clear that they don't care about the LA K-girl market. No, the losers are those TER members who have loyally supported TER in this ongoing war against that other website. In a thread a while back I suggested that TER take the high road and allow reviews that referenced any ad website. I felt that TER could promote itself as an independent, unbiased website and that in the long run it would be better off for it. Apparently that's not going to happen, and it seems that TER is going further and further away from that direction. I don't proclaim to have all the answers, but as a successful business man, I know that if you are paranoid about your competition and even refuse to admit it exists, you are embarking upon a slippery slope. I fear that TER is sliding down that slope.
Yup, CENZ01, you do sound like a successful business man, with rational emotionless analysis. Those who want to see Kgals will have to gravitate to that other site. I heard that many K-fans boycott that other site. The unintended consequence? They have nowhere to submit reviews. That site will continue to thrive, as long as it's one click away from the most popular ad site.
Should we promote Craigslist or eBay? ![]()
Exactly. TER has banned links from at least three different ad sites (possibly more). The utility of a review site that does not allow links to ads is marginal at best. I know that I won't be renewing my VIP status when it expires.
Too bad as they really did have the chance to become THE review site regardless of where the providers advertise. I believe that they seriously underestimated the value of the convenience of going directly from a review to an ad.Banking on the "quality" of reviews is a poor choice as any site that offers free VIP status in exchange for reviews will ALWAYS have fake reviews (good and bad).
...Are you saying TER is not THE review site? In what world are you living? TER has been THE review site for FIFTEEN years. What a ridiculous statement!!
Well, I hope all you advocates and detractors for either site are happy now. I, for one joined this site as I did not care for the shenanigans going on that "other" site. It appears that this discussion board isn't much better.
For all that are stepping on LAKS, I hope you are happy. I have grown weary of the "broken record" responses. Why do you care? I don't get it? You don't know me from "joe blow" next door, please don't insult my intelligence and say you are doing it for me and other hobbyists. I have always done my due diligence for decades and always made my way.
I essentially see K girls exclusively and consequently with the change in the business model here don't see any reason for continued participation, because for one, I can no longer post any reviews and two, this discussion board has become just as bad as the other place with the continued flaming and trolling.
After people who decide to make comments on this situation, I figure this board will become just as inactive as that other place.
As I stated earlier, "I hope you are happy".
...place ads on sites that are acceptable to TER?
What's wrong with That Mall for example? I believe it's the oldest escort mall in existence so they must be doing something right.
Why do K-girls have to segregate themselves from other providers by using advertising sites that only have K-girls (LAKS, Wordpress)?
That is the obvious solution. However, if they leave the other site piecemeal, the ones that are slow to change are going to get more business in the short term, until the LA hobbyists change their own behavior and start checking the other sites first when they want to hobby. If the ones that have moved panic and go back because business has dropped off a little, then the big change is never going to happen. When the link on the TER review shows we are finding our girls on LA Mall or some other TER-acceptable site, the bookers will start moving their ads over. Likewise, if the bookers that have the top LA girls make the change first, ideally en masse, we customers will find them, and our behavior in how we find our girls wills will be modified accordingly. Then the other girls will follow.
I agree they shouldn't segregate their ads. Most K-girls offer a price-advantage over Caucasian/Latina/Ebony girls, so I don't think they will get hurt advertising head to head against them on the same sites.
A serious comment from me this time. No hidden jokes.
The reality of the matter is that the K-agencies will continue to use what has worked based on past results so there's no point of seeking out a new advertising site and cutting into their costs and margins. If these "fanboys" truly cared about the K-girls that they fight so hard for then they would simply review them on the other site, where reviews for them are accepted as opposed to organizing a boycott so that they could push their own little review site instead for their own purposes and agendas. These guys won't do anything that doesn't benefit themselves, they wanted the K-girls to "advertise" on their blog, which they didn't really do. These guys just downloaded the pictures off the other ad site, added their own watermark and then uploaded it to their blog, there's nothing proprietary about that at all, these guys were acting like they were revolutionary but all they were doing was downloading the pics off the other site and uploading it to their blog and then trying to leverage the blog and their little forum for favors, freebies, discounts, etc. All the popular providers who didn't want to play ball, got blackballed instead with bad reviews, bashing, and tampering.
Why would you go to a separate website for reviews when you can click on the link inside the ad on the other site? Mongers will eventually go to where they have to for whatever reviews they need, that's all there is to it. A popular agency on the East coast has specifically requested that the blog links not be added to the review profiles. It's more proof that these guys are stealing pictures without anyone's permission and uploading it to their blog for their own purposes.
As I tried to point out earlier, the k-girls, their agents and bookers are not going to change a system that's working for them, no matter what options might exist. The other banned site will remain their primary venue because it is working well for them and if you don't believe that I have some swamp land in Florida for sale. I personally participate here and on that other site because my loyalties lie to the providers and what's best for them. If that makes me a traitor over here in some people's minds, then so be it. Personal bashing because of differing views has no place here or on any board anywhere. At least that's my personal feeling. Ciao!
Just ask some of the K-fans to inform the K agencies to advertise in one of 5 or 6 sites acceptable to TER, some cited in this thread already. I would if I had connection to their elite circle
There's a new site you can link to K girl reviews that TER will accept. Feel free to PM for details.
...surrounding this "new site?"
If the "new site" is acceptable to TER, won't we find out soon enough what this "new site" is when reviews are posted linking to it? Your post demonstrates how ludicrous K-fanboys are with regard to the K-world. Everything is hush-hush and top secret, right?
There are dozens of sites that are acceptable to TER that are used by so-called "indies." Why do K-girls insist on segregating themselves to sites that cater to only K-girls? If they advertised on the same sites that other providers use, guys could compare them to "indies" and would find out that K-girls were in better shape, gave better service and charged less. What are K-girls (and their bookers) afraid of?