When the Kgirls reviews on service range from 8 & 9's to 5 & 6's, what is your opinion on the difference?
Figure 3 out of 10 are negative.
After reading her reviews, I think a lot of the time it's the client that brings something to the incall!
Anything from lousy attitude, bad hygiene, maybe too aggressive or a vibe the girl gets or puts out!
So, brother Mongers what's your take on the subject?

as many different interpretations of the TER scoring system as there are Kgirl mongers, I always read the narrative to get insight into why the girl got the score she did.  I consider a score of 7 below average, but there are girls that receive a 7 on a glowing review where the reviewer is very complimentary and states he will see her again next week. So my point is that for some guys, a 7-8 is average service and for some a 5 is average, so for me, the narrative content is the key to understanding what the reviewer MEANT with his score.  

 
With that said, I do agree with you that low scores are also used by SOME reviewers as punishment for a variety of perceived "slights", some of which, as you point out, may be justified on the part of the girl, or because she would not expand her menu beyond GFE on demand.  These reviewers often try to blame you girl, but as most of us can see, the TONE of the reviewer, not necessarily the specific language, can tell you if its likely a revenge review, and should be completely disregarded in making your own decision whether or not to see her.  

We’ve had lots of discussions on ways to improve your overall experience with a provider. And, of course, if you have a better experience, it is reasonable to expect you would also be able to write a more positive review and even give better service scores in some cases.

 
I initiated one thread on grooming that I can’t find right now. If someone else finds it, please feel free to link it here as I think it will be helpful.  

 
Additionally, CDL and several others have talked about just how much and what kind of “game” you need to have to improve your odds of having a great experience with any particular kgirl.

 
For me, game with kgirls boils down to a few simple concepts.

 
 * Remember that they come from a highly patriarchal culture. More so than quite a few other Asian countries.  
 * They are here as business women whose primary goal is to make money.
 * They tend to quickly form a close, but hierarchical (just like in Korea) community that is almost always more spread out than you think it is. Kgirls talk to each other. Always keep that in mind.
 * Just like with all other Asian girls, the concept of “face” is very important to them. A big difference being K-girls tend to be prouder and have quicker tempers than most.  

 
Most of what you need to know to have the best experience with a k-girl is found in the list above. But there are quite a few specific things you can derive from each of the above which will significantly increase your chances of a great session.

 
For example:

 
Patriarchal culture - Kgirls expect you to be a man. Know what you want. Be confident.  

 
Making money - when you manage your relationship with a k-girl in such a way to make it so she knows you aren’t always looking for a discount or freebies, you’l find she relaxes quite a bit and everything just gets better. Especially (in my experience) if you learn how to tip. Even though it is far from mandatory. I’ll refer you to others who can explain the nuances of tipping k-girls.

 
K-girl community - You never know how many friends a k-girl has or who they are. If you say something to her about another girl or org, she’s going to pass it on. Count on it.  

 
Face - I know it goes completely against our U.S. service culture. But making sure that your booker and your girl can save face even when they make a mistake will go a long way towards improving your experiences with them.

 
These are just my thoughts and opinions based on my own experience and that of those I’ve known over the years.  Any and all are free to disagree.

 
Have fun everyone.

I consider it as average. However, most people, especially those looking for service don't want to settle for "just OK". What is that TV commercial?

A 9 on service, given that 10 means anal or threesome is a must, is reserved for the top service girls that I can recommend to pretty much anyone looking for service with little to no caveats. As I  look for service, I want the girls who are exceptional in service, not ones who check some boxes or may be OK with just vanilla baseline coitus.  

 

The difference when we're talking about the same girl is usually just peoples perception of averages. Service is usually consistent with few exceptions when the girl may not be feeling well or maybe the monger is in a bad mood. But I'm gonna assume truthful and "honest" (did I use this right?) reviews.  

Sometime the girl isn't really one of the best ever but monger still gives her a 9 just to be nice or whatnot.

 

If you want to know about score differences, consider the following. People are pickier in some regions. Bay area is picky and now even moreso because the prices have risen drastically and we are inevitably comparing what weve had with what we have.
Same exact girls in bay area are getting far lower scores even on face/body than same girls do in the east coast or LA. Let alone service. For many of us the bar is set high. We consider average girls as average and score them accordingly. I would say currently there is only one pure 9 service girl left out there in the bay maybe two if the reports concerning the other are all untrue (which I'm afraid is not likely)  

 
To get a nine in service and nine in attitude the girl must match with my atfs. And my atfs are nymphos who did almost everything you'd see in porn with drive genuine interest and drive. As long as have great mechanical skills at actual sex. These are the pros, after all. This ain't little league. However, different mongers might have different expectations. For some, girls don't have to Dt deep, have endurance, rim, have good kegels etc to score high. That's fine, but issue I have with that is that then you lose the differentiation.
If you score a service queen that makes my legs wobbly and pours her heart out for me fucking the hell out of me, and a girl who can barely fuck like a shy college girl at her first frat party, I personally think it is diminishing the service queen score. I like to look at high service score and know I'm getting a queen that will quench my thirst (hehe) for fuck, not just an average girl whom the mongers were nice to. This is what reviews are for imo.  

 
Just my two cents.

He's just one of the very few who will admit to it.

 
Reading reviews is almost as much art as it is science. The first thing you need to do is pay as little attention to the numerical scores as possible UNTIL you do a little reviewing of the reviewer, or at least his "scoring" track record.

 
A 7 from someone like you is more like a 9 from someone like CDL. Asking for, or even worse having the expectation of consistency where it comes to the numerical scores where a "9" for instance means the same thing regardless of who wrote the review is simply delusional. It is NEVER going to happen

Well, I didn't reference cdl. I shared what my viewpoint is on differences and whatnot. It's that different people score differently and have different expectations. I agree  

This might sound funny, but I actually don't want to start another argument here.

 
After rereading the thread, perhaps it was more about one-off worse grades for queens moreso than just different score philosophies. I alluded to the general differences and how I see it. If everyone's a nine, than no ones a nine, you know? I think at least part of one-off scores is probably people who have higher standards, at least scoring wise. Some people have specific set of things that make for a good service score. Some people might be disappointed in some aspect of service which may then bring down the whole grade. The girl might be in a bad mood, etc or just not meshing well with a particular monger. Etc

First off, thanks for all the responses! Real good information, much appreciated!

      No, sorry I wasn't asking about game, upping my game or experience. Thanks for your input, good info!  

What I bring to the incall is and has been working for me for quite a while, with both pros & civies! I feel that I can bring out what the girl might be hiding or just not ready to reveal, with a good sense of humor, a playful personality, and a few other things I've learned over the years! But don't get me wrong they don't always work! I read between the lines and just try to get a good picture of the girl and if I can bring out whatever she has to enhance the session. I guess the girl can be just as nervous as the client and needs to be at ease & relaxed. I'm talking about newer girls that, how they are, has to be established!  With a seasoned pro you know how they are because they've been around, but they can be moody too!

      My post was about evaluating a review to see if you want to see the girl. Just what the reviewers are saying and their reviews from the past! What they did or didn't do to make their score/experience different from the other reviewers.  

I was asking what you guys thought might have changed a good or great session into a bad one? Either by the client or the provider.

TER uses a nutty variable MAX score system that varies from 7 to 10. However, TER currently provides NO useful way for a reader to know which MAX allowed score was used for a particular review.  That is why X-out-of-Y scoring provides a SIMPLE and USEFUL solution to the problem.
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To many of us (most of us?), a 7-out-of-7 is a better score than a 7-out-of-10.  
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............................... X-out-of-Y Scoring is a 10-out-of-10 Suggestion! ...............................
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Search my previous posts on General Discussion and Suggestion and Policy for more details and different opinions. E.g.,  
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-board-12/x-out-of-y-scoring-benefits-everyone-986768

Agree and would ad that on top of reading the narrative it also really help to have a baseline in someway for that reviewer and narrative. That could be having see the same provider or having see the same providers as some other reviewer who than also reviewed the girl/review in question.

 
The numbers, on their own, are always problematic for many reasons.

its smart for every Kgirl monger to find guys in their geographical area that have reviews that describe a similar experience with the same girls that they had.  I try to have about 15 in in SoCal that tend to have the same sessions I have with the same girls, so I give them more weight when it comes to reading reviews of girls I'm considering seeing.  It took some time to find these guys in the beginning, and there is some attrition over the years, so then I find replacements to keep the number around 15.  That gives me pretty good coverage on new girls coming into SoCal.  

According to CDL--finding like minded hobbyists is a great way to vet reviews.

Here's the tip to finding them that he didn't share:

Look for reviewers with the most # of reviews, like CDL.  By isolating them you will understand who to ignore since they  write FAKE reviews.  So avoid the Top 100 reviewers like CDL that are just scamming the system to get FREE VIP.

I don't really see the logical leap where reviewers with biggest # of reviews are writing fake reviews necessarily. I think that is a pretty horrible take.

I agree that finding a group of reviewers to follow makes a big difference.

 
In my opinion, it makes an even bigger difference if you find some way to get and give direct feedback with that network of reviewers. If one of them just saw a girl that is very high on your to do list, follow up with a short and simple direct message to ask for clarification (if any is required, of course).  

 
Most will be happy to respond directly. Some won’t. Just remember to keep any direct messages short and to the point. And don’t pester. One or two messages and no more.  

 
In general I’ve found that almost every monger is happy to help if you keep it short, simple and discreet.

for clarifications on their reviews.  I haven't told the guys in this group that I rely on them more than other people because I don't want them changing their review style in any way, but I do PM guys within this group of higher weighted reviewers, and also random reviewers that may have seen a girl I'm interested in.   I agree with your points.  

I've sent and received PM's about sessions and it has been a great resource! I agree, keep them to the point!
Enjoy the search, the anticipation and then the session!