I'm stunned how few people are on a PrEP regimen. Of course, most of the informed girls with the help of their handlers and unlicensed doctors are. There really isn't much danger from unprotected sex nowadays unless you live in Texas. Eventually, you'll get Herpes and other treatable STDs but as long as you never fraternize with a civilian you'll be ok. Careful, Hep C is still a problem and can sneak up and kill you. In five years condoms will be a novelty in the world of Korean prostitution.
In my area, until recently, there were only two K-girl agencies. Most K-girls in one offer BBFS for an upcharge, the other CFS only. As much as I would like to sink my cock raw into a hot K-girl's pussy, my big head tells my little head that's risky and I have never done it. So the choice was simple I would go see K-girls at the agency which offers CFS only. There is no way I want to go DATY with a K-girl who has let some guy cream-pie her 30 minutes earlier. But now the agency offering CFS only with their two K-girls, is offering BBFS with one of them and after some searching I see the K-girl who is CFS only has been advertising BBFS in other cities. A third K-girl agency has just opened with the same business model. Two girls, one offering BBFS and the other CFS. So now I am in a bind. If I continue to see girls who just offer CFS, my choice is limited and even then I don't know if the girl has been giving random guys BBFS in other cities, or do I just not worry about it and just make sure my CFS appointment is the first of the day, in the hope that at least the girl will be clean. I have noticed this trend in other cities with many K-girls now offering BBFS. I never noticed this 2 or 3 years ago. Do they not care about their health? Or it the attraction of more money the motivating force?
The problem is that some hobbyists are obsessed with going bareback and paying their way to get to inseminate girls. In your case there's a chance that CDL has recently started traveling to the PNW. In case you don't know it he claims to have assisted Steve Case with the formation of AOL. So he made silly money (or its silly to believe him) and wherever he posts BBFS follows. So when he bids up the asking price (his top dollar is around $250 a K-Girl might opt out for $275 or even $300 instead. Or if not, he's been known to surprise them in doggie by removing his condom to (in his words) "educate them about large opportunities".
You are smart quickones for thinking with your large head and not your small head. In CDL's case he has two small heads that never grow!
Or perhaps a new phase. At any rate, your conundrum isn’t a new one. Many CFS providers have gone BB in a market that favored BB to remain competitive or advertise CFS and do BB on thr low and or for select clients. No matter what, assume someone has plunged in raw and protect yourself. This is a hobby of calculated risks, more so than most others. If you want to remain mostly safe check reviews of a provider who advertises CFS services, do not DFK, LFK, DATY or recieve BBBJ. IF you want to remain totally safe; DONT SEE ANY PROVIDERS AT ALL. Of course those last two options suck and defeat the purpose of the hobby. If you want wham, bam, thank you ma’am action there are limitless options there. If you want to be sexually pampered and have your filthiest whims catered to, you see a K-Girl. Only you can calculate the level of risk you are willing to accept.
You should throw in the P2P camel slide! I think a lot of the guys get that service, but for some reason don't consider that it is contact, unless they go covered, and I'm guessing they don't!
You're right that the option is becoming more and more visible and there clearly are risks to the activity (some don't seem to care and just think they can get treatment if needed -- Thanks guys! Big help to everyone else.) But at least you have that information and might suggest that those not offering it are serious about only CFS.
Still, even before all the BB queens came out of the closet so to speak, you never knew if the one you just saw had or had not offered it to someone earlier in the day or if they have a real life boyfriend who they go bare with.
So stick with the ones you are comfortable with and hope that they are a fanatic about hygiene as we all say Koreans are.
I got a kick out of "as much as I would like to sink my cock into a hot K-girl's pussy"
In all honesty, the objectively hot K-girls are not openly advertising BBFS, because they don't have to. The "K"-girls who are offering it, aren't the hot ones, they're typically the busted older ones who have to do it to remain competitive. Some of those BBFS "K"-girls are also into the drug scene, so tread carefully.
In the L.A. area there are quite a few hot, young Kgirls that offer BBFS! Either they offer it or it's known through reviews and on their menu! Some without an upcharge!
CDL only has access to the old hags. The young one's avoid CDL like the plague. The GILF's need the money, though its reported that he tries to steel it back, so they are starting to avoid him as well. One senior K-Girl told me, "We can't wait until our real daddy gets a hold of him."
there goes CDL running down the street from the Albertson's wearing a long wig, red lip stick, heels and shades....come to think of it he looks Transgender.
on a lot of the BBFS reviews, you will find that the reviewers are often disappointed in the girl's appearance and/or her service. Its no secret that the bar for appearance for what is even an "average" Kgirl has been lowered by new girls offering BBFS.
There are still come aging "hotties" in SoCal that have added BBFS to their menu in the last year. I texted with one that I used to see (she texted me about booking with her, and I had to explain that since she is now advertising BBFS, I would not see her) admitted that she doesn't have to work as hard on a BBFS session. The guys keep coming back for the CIP even though they are complaining that the overall session was below average. The girls have figured out that they can do less work, charge more, and get older without losing customers if they go BBFS. I personally don't know any that are into drugs, but it makes sense that if they are going to take more risks, it could be across the board.
It is very clever to describe it as second hand information.
However those of us that know better recall multiple posts when you were bragging about getting BBFS both on the clock and then when they became your off the clock girlfriend. Of course you remember (your total BS) line about how they eagerly accepted your rules--that since they were still working (and fucking clients BBBS for money) that you exercised the right to "see" other K-Girls as long as they were on the clock (and also bbfs).
If you don't reply to this post then it reinforces your admission to being a low life.
You are the guy in the porn movie that is on clean up detail of a gang bang as you suck up all of the sperm in the woman's pussy!
When his posts are vetted and he has lied as much as he can, CDL retreats like a chicken.
He is now hiding out on the P+R board for fear of further criticism.
HobbyHunter mentioned running a group chat that you are a member of. He said this is separate from his Meet Up group that includes KGirls and gets together for coffee to discuss CDL. Is your dislike for CDL so intense that you gave him your number? Was the group his idea or yours?
You and your dipshit posse are covered in shit, as usual.
I don't have a coffee group but what I did say is below. Do you get jealous of the two of them covered in semen so you bring a little scat play along? It is ok, I am not judgmental.
"I was having coffee a few weeks ago with a K-girl in the Starbucks at the Galleria in Dallas. I was passing through, and she lives close by so it was convenient!
She was telling me that amongst the K-girls who have TER profiles and follow the boards, there was a rumor that CDL and GaG enjoy 69ing...
See, that way they both get what they like - Certified-dick-lover gets to nibble on some sausage and the Georgia Jizz Gobbler gets to gobble some jizz."
Maybe Hobby was inspired by your posting. Doesn’t change the fact that he claims to be in two chat groups, one including KGirls and the other including BigPapsan. In all fairness he initially said it was one big group, but then switched up and said BigPapsan was in a separate group that didn’t meet in person like his first group.
Two more lies just deposited in the post above. Here are the facts:
1-I never said that there were two groups; only one group.
2-I previously corrected my statement about who was in membership.
They LIE and MAKE UP STORIES when they are in trouble.
CDL and CKS ramble and try to distract. They try to burn down everything in their path. It never works.
Go get them KJ. Hold these two douche bags to their words. EXPOSE THEIR LIES.
You know that there writing styles are starting to look alike....
hmmm......
Knobby Hunter is on top and you are the bottom, as usual. When his ED kicks in, too, do you just 69 each other? You two jizz-guzzlers belong together. Is it true that you two go off into the woods at night where he mounts you in the moonlight. ?
You are the official duo to support Semenax. That's the volume and intensity enhancer for impotent men. Its sold at WalMart which is in the same strip shopping center where the Albertson's that you work is located.
So what's up with the review by your store manager yesterday? I t must have been a blow (not blow job as in CKS trying to get you hard) when the manager put you on probation in front of all the cashiers. They were all smiles and laughing at what an asshole looks like when he is called on the carpet.
So if you save up in the next few weeks you should have enough tips to buy the Semenax--WalMart has it on sale for $59.99.
I'm stunned how few people are on a PrEP regimen. Of course, most of the informed girls with the help of their handlers and unlicensed doctors are. There really isn't much danger from unprotected sex nowadays unless you live in Texas. Eventually, you'll get Herpes and other treatable STDs but as long as you never fraternize with a civilian you'll be ok. Careful, Hep C is still a problem and can sneak up and kill you. In five years condoms will be a novelty in the world of Korean prostitution.
...if you don't have health insurance, and I doubt K-girls have US health insurance. Yes, Truvada is available in generic form, but I'm not sure that uninsured people can get it at the generic price.
Even if generic Truvada is relatively inexpensive compared to Truvada, why are you only putting the onus on K-GIRLS to take PrEP? Why didn't you say "I'm stunned how few K-MONGERS are on a PrEP regimen." K-mongers are playing Russian Roulette when doing BBFS but you say nothing about them getting PrEP. Why not? I'll tell you why not - because they're too cheap! That's why they see K-girls in the first place.
If I had to guess, I'd say majority of kgirls are on prep/truvada at this point. Kgirls don't have insurance, but what would they need insurance for?
Most of them visit korean doctors, who are in the know.
Korean doctors may be "in the know" (whatever that means) but docs aren't going to pass out Truvada like it is free lollipops. Doctors get samples from pharma salesmen but not enough to go around.
Cash
They pay cash
I think BP is saying that doctors aren't writing them prescriptions or giving them samples, not that the girls don't have a way to pay for it.
and a fair amount of between the lines while ignoring what was actually written.
I think a better summary would be: Why are you talking about K-girls and such treatments. Should be telling the K-mongers they should be buying. But you're not because you know they are all so cheap.
So really just more trolling and pointless insults directed at the guys on this forum for whatever reason have been driving him for all these years.
You should really assess your reading comprehension. I was responding to BP's second comment, not his first. You know, (I guess not), the one where he doesn't mention placing the onus on mongers to go on PrEP. The one where Rocket's comment was unrelated to the comment he was responding to, which is why I interjected.
I'll also add that, as usual, your condescension is neither fitting nor welcome, Yansen.
Fair enough. I was thinking of the first comment he wrote and not the spin off from that.
I still think you're giving him more credit than deserved as he clearly implies something a bit more than just doctors will not write a prescription for the drug. That could have been said that without any mention of cost, ability to pay or giving out free-bees. It was just a follow on to the whole K-mongers are cheap and K-girls don't get paid enough rant he is always on (except when he wants to talk about they fuck BB so dangerous to see).
Sorry, I don't really get what you're saying.
My first comment was that I think most kgirls are taking prep and that kgirls don't need insurance in general because they have their own means of paying for doctor visits with specific doctors.
The second comment was a direct answer to question of how they pay for prep. Yeah, they most likely don't need to visit a doctor to get it.
I saw your first comment as a bit of humor!
Humor? No, I was serious.
Cash, they pay in cash! Really, I thought it was kind of like, not with rocks or chickens, in green backs!
Ah, but that was the second comment 
Gotcha', but I meant your post up top! The cash post. I thought that was the first about paying, post! Anyhow I liked it and thought it was similar to mine about paying and a write off.
Actually, Truvada is very reasonably priced.
A 30 day supply is only $45 if you fill a prescription of Truvada at a Vons or Ralphs pharmacy and use the free coupon code from the GoodRX website.
A constructive reply in what is essentially a troll thread.
Well done!
I'm sure they would pay for it as a part of doing business. And, then they would write it off as a business expense ^^!
I think you are fooling yourself if the safety margin you work with is that you only see CFS girls. There's absolutely no guarantee if they just advertise CFS only that it's any different from seeing a BBFS gal. Anyone who sees providers are risking a variety of things that could make you sick, not just STDs but COVID as well. And in my experience, even the CFS girls are giving BBBJs so you're kissing a mouth that sucked a raw cock a half hour ago. So I don't see any difference.
I guess us mongers will justify anything to let us sleep better at night. I certainly compartmentalize the hobby life from my every day "normal" life.
But to this day I've never gotten anything from a Kgirl. The one time I got an STD was from a non-asian civvie. Go figure. Knock on wood.
If it’s OK with you, I’ll just get my favorite girl to knock on my wood (or something like that) for me.
activity is DFK. If you DFK, you could conceivably catch any of 114 communicable diseases. If you eat her pussy, the most you can get is 12. Food for thought. Lol
Is that what you rationalize when you do BBFS with K-Girls?
CDL-You bragged many months ago that you "partake". In fact you self-documented that on occasion you surprise them in doggie by removing your condom when they aren't looking. And then there's the often posted nonsense of having "gf/bf" status with them so you also get their free pussy off the clock; coupled with the corrupt rationalization that while they still work you are free to pursue other providers as long as you pay.
If you did all that you have posted your blood stream would be a fucking petri dish and you would have contracted aids.
So STOP posting FAKE diversions.
fucks women would know this is a joke. Only the guys who suck dicks would take it seriously. Thanks for taking the bait, dumbass. (All I could see was the headline, but it was enough to know that you didn't get the joke. The slow ones never do.) Bwahahahahahaha
You know that EVERYONE who fucks women would know this is a joke. Wow. Your absolutist powers are amazing.
I'm sure that you sucked off EVERYONE as you were doing your research.
The instances of girls transmitting chlamydia has increased even with just BBBJ. If youre not single its a tough situation to hobby and then go home and bone the old lady. I never got anything in the 15 years of hobbying until last year a girl had an STD and I was visiting the online doc later that day. She tried to initiate the P2P slide but I did not partake. Just the BBBJ part. I never condone others on what they partake in. Were all adults here just my .02 wondering if this is on the rise or not and if its because of so much BBFS out there now....
Do you now decline all BB services (and what about kissing)? That would be understandable based on your experience. I contracted E-B not long ago. At my age, that practically requires divine intervention. And at the point I got it, the only girls I was kissing were ones where I was paying for the privilege. I have other high-risk hobbies, but none as insidiously risky as this one.
Your post drove me to Google. According to nhs.uk, and new to me on many accounts, here's a list of BJ/DATY-communicable infections. It's interesting that chlamydia is in the "less frequently" column:
STIs commonly caught through oral sex are:
* gonorrhoea
* genital herpes
* syphilis
* human papillomavirus (HPV)
Infections less frequently passed on through oral sex include:
* chlamydia
* HIV
* hepatitis A, hepatitis B and hepatitis C
* genital warts
* pubic lice
And thanks for sharing. It is always important to keep this in mind. And there are always new(er) mongers who either aren’t sufficiently aware or who could use a refresher.
if she offer condom you accept if she doesn't than you say condom please. Than just move with deed and don't need to make scene out of it!
Depending on how well you click with the provider, sometimes things just happen and both of you forget to use the big head in the heat of the moment.
Sometimes the girls get genuinely upset at themselves for "breaking their own rule".
But others just say "don't tell ANYONE! Only you special!" like I would believe that.
are being less than honest when they say "Only you special?!!!! I'm shocked, shocked, I say!!!! Lol
Yes, I could hardly believe it myself!
As a wise, man once said, "Surprise, surprise, surprise!"