Answer: Ask for her by name when you make the appointment!  
 
That may seem absurdly obvious to some of you, but not everybody understands the way Asian Crapshoot Services work. There are hobbyists I've PMed who, upon questioning, acknowledged they didn't know the name of the girl they saw and, upon reflection, realized she didn't remotely match the physical descriptions in the profile or earlier reviews.  
   
It's clear form looking at some reviews of girls that work at ACSs that guys read a good review of, say, "Yummy" and want to see her. They call the number and make an appointment only to -- and usually unaware throughout the visit -- get serviced by another girl, "Mummy." She, too, works at that ACS, usually in the same apartment. The guy left it to a 50/50 crapshoot whether he would see Yummy and lost. Important point: the word 'crapshoot' need only apply to the case where you're seeing an unreviewed girl!  
 
Upon returning home, our fellow enthusiast, being the helpful TER member he is, writes a review of decrepit Mummy...in Yummy's profile! What we see is a new review for Yummy where the description of the service provided and scores are wildly off. (While we're at it, if you think you're going to share with us a review of the experience you're having, at some point during the visit...ask her for her name: "What's your name?" Or, "what can I call you?")  
 
Further, if the guy in our example had asked the girl's name at the door, he could have asked to wait until Yummy, in the next bedroom with her legs in the air, was available. By my experience, unless she has a customer waiting, she's not even going to ask you to go back to your car. Instead, you'll wait with her in her room. Hey, after looking at her for several minutes, maybe her back-from-the-grave frailty piques your interest and you decide you want to fuck her after all. Then you'll get to experience the joy of creating a new profile for a girl at an ACS and see the TER screening process in all it's fucked up glory.
   
I have been PMed three times (I only have 15 reviews) asking me for advice from guys who want to prevent being "B&S'd" when looking to see a girl I reviewed. They knew enough that my mention of ACS in the review was uncharted waters for them. My answer is, wait for it... ask for her by name! I have only ended up seeing a different girl than the one I was trying to revisit once, and in that case it wasn't clear that it was intentional. My point is, if you ask for the girl by name, maybe even throw in that you'll leave if you get there and it's a different girl (though I don't think that's necessary), you will either see her or be told "she no more, new girl," or other eloquent words to that effect.
   
Tangentially, but indicative of the general truthfulness outside of the ad itself, I once texted an ACS I had used before about their new ad and asked, "Do you really have new Japanese girls?" She texted back, "Yummy and Mummy." LOL. "OK, I'll see Yummy again, thank you." No new Japanese girls; same delightful Chinese girls.

that they will not accept a review for a specific girl unless she is identified with photos in their web ad.  Many of these places put only SOME of the girls' photos up and the girl you see may not be  one of the girls displayed in the ad, so your example of Yummy and Mummy being combined into the same review is most likely the fault of the reviewer, because he just used the same agency link as Yummy had in her review(s) and when you click that link, it shows Yummy and not Mummy.  THAT would cause TER to put the review under Yummy.  So a reviewer setting up the profile must go to the agency website, find the photos that go with Mummy, and create a new link to go in the new profile specifically for Mummy.  

Wrong. That's how things are supposed to operate, but at least in NoVa, plenty of ACS reviews are for profiles with links that don't mention names and include clearly irrelevant pics. TER admin would actually have to care to enforce this.

or a post on the discussion boards that gets moved, TER can only go by the information that is contained therein.  If you provide good links and accurate info, they have been excellent IMO in getting my reviews onto the right girl.   I had ONE instance in all of these years where a review went onto the wrong profile and it was easily corrected in a few hours by PM.  I still say if these things are happening, then its because the reviewer is NOT providing accurate info when he writes the review.  I know there are a few relatively new guys here that don't ever own anything they do wrong, so I won't belabor the point.  Its GIGO to use a shopworn tech term.  

How did we go from ACSs, the subject of this thread, to AMPs? With ACSs, we're talking full-on "escort" services. They are run out of condos, apartments, and hotels. Not a parlor or other "business address" in sight. AMPs have a store front, massage tables, etc. Yes, there are lots of independent masseuses who work out of their residences, but they aren't AMPs either.
 
Yes, you could rightfully have two profiles pointing to the same ad posted by an ACS. However, that ad *must* list both girls names within it for TER to accept the review. Sometimes the only place you can find the name(s) is within an annotated picture. So be it. The name is there. TER allows this, but you have to tell them ten times to open the f'ing ad and look at the picture(s).
 
Please, just once, tell me something I don't know. Or, take the info I'm providing and make good use of it and maybe even learn something. I'm glad you took the time to read my post, but...

Actually, TER is pretty rigorous about making sure the name of the girl you're creating a profile for is listed in the ad somewhere, anywhere. I've been through this with them numerous times where they kept rejecting a profile for lack of a name...a name that is clearly in the ad (ok, maybe it's not always so clear -- sometimes it's buried as an annotation in a picture). Even with specific instructions like, "to see the name, open the ad and look at the firs picture," they still reject it until they finally give in and open the ad. Then you get a, "we opened the ad and saw the name." No "sorry for taking your time by ignoring your instructions the first five times."
 
What confuses things further is that, after some period, they change the ad and maybe the link in the profile takes you to an ad the does *not* have any name. Or, the girl has moved on so the link is inaccurate. So be it. But trust me, at the time you create a profile they will not allow it unless the name matches the ad.
 
In fact, and I hate to say this, but if ACSs didn't want their girls reviewed they could just create all their ads without names. Then it would be up to the ad site to enforce ads with names, which they should do. This shit needs to be legal for everybody's sake. It sure would help clear up this mess.

The onus is on TER to deny those profiles. Why are they approving them in the first place if the links aren't specific?

to a web ad that identifies THAT particular girl, with photos.  It means when the profile was originally created, the reviewer submitted a working link to the girl's ad.  Otherwise, the review would not have been approved.   I have had reviews rejected because I waited too long to write the review and the girl left the day I submitted the review, and so the link I put for her ad all of a sudden didn't work anymore when the mod tried to verify it.  If the girl returns within 3 months, then I can resubmit the review with a working link.  Otherwise, it sits in my review graveyard indefinitely.  

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and sometimes ACS’s run different ads on different sites. It’s a gray area and I think TER is trying to give the benefit of the doubt to get reviews of these girls published while adhering to TER requirements.

Its when you put this in your OP . . . . .

This "discussion" has strayed, but not very far by recent TER stds. It really was meant as a simple public service announcement. At least it hasn't devolved into a tit-for-tat troll contest. LOL. Give it time and I'll bet it does.
 
Bedpage is the worst offender wrt not requiring names. I mean, they might, but if they do there's no enforcement. And BP is where ACSs flock to. I personally like the chaos, just wish they forced the use of names.

While I think you have some points the entire tone and constant harping on your idea makes me largely tune you out. If you have to keep repeating that something is so great for others it doesn't take too long before it sounds like one of those late night ad which is selling a crappy product while trying to sell it as some high quality item.

I like how Jensen always speaks for the community and especially how an amount of members to get behind an idea or you have to give it a rest. I mean he isn't a mod, admin or anything but he is a very important member on here.  

How can you say that when you aren't even paying attention? Oh, yeah, that's the only way you could say that. This thread is user-centric. Is there is a one-sentence TER dig? Sure, I couldn't help myself.  But the initial post provides tips to users who were disappointed they didn't get the service they expected base on the review they read, only later to find that they didn't see the girl whose review interested them. They can pretty much prevent it from ever happening again. Or, if someone sees this first, they never have to have that disappointment.  
 
How do I know this happens? By direct contact with those individuals. Sometimes I reached out, others sought me out. It led me to assume, correctly I suspect, that it happens a lot more than need be and some would appreciate the insight. I've even gotten PMs in response to reviews: "What an ACS?" And I'm happy to explain.
 
The newbie board is a good suggestion. Sorry to see you go. Maybe you want to put in a problem report and get it moved before you leave.
 
Good bye, if this is it. Get the door on your way out, wouldja.

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While I appreciate your insight, my experience is that your advice only works if you've seen the girl before. If you only know her name, you're going to get who's available.

No. The post is about getting to see the girl in the review you read. It's based on a lot of experience. If you want to see her, ask for her before you even go. If you want to double check when you get there, ask the name of the girl who answers the door. You don't have to have seen her before, she will tell you her name. ACSs are totally unreliable regarding the pictures they post, and totally reliable -- in my dozens of experiences with them -- regarding the services offered and in the communications leading up to the visit. Well, as long as you don't ask if she's pretty or young or anything else about her physically. If you've been burned by an ACS, I mean actually burned, not terribly disappointed by the age/looks of the girl, then you are 1/1000. Go play a 4-digit numbers game...right away if it happens again. Otherwise, I stand by the content of the thread starter.

Yes. That's what I do. I ask for her by name before I get there and before I enter the apartment. Still has yet to work for me.

Maybe these types of agencies are an East Coast thing. They don’t have their own websites. It’s just a phone number attached to an ad.  

these are the AAMP setups that advertise on bedpage and similar sites. Calling them agencies I think is a bit of a stretch for as most of the Agencies here seem to have their own websites for advertising which ladies are currently working in their places.

I don't understand. What is it that doesn't work? Could you give me an example, made up or actual, of what happens?

Oi. You cracked the door and I can see some light. Thanks. Yes, it's becoming obvious now that much of the confusion is because West Coast guys are trying to relate their experiences to something that is actually new to them. We've been talking past each other. Another guy, who has been a complete pain in the ass, unwittingly posted a nugget of truth: "...if what you say is accurate, you have informed me of a service I didn't know existed..." Okay then, why not try to understand it or just say, "nah, this is a topic of no interest to me, doesn't affect me, I have no opinion about it."
 
And to your giving me the benefit of the doubt, I thank you, but why wouldn't you? That's the light shining through I was referring to. When the other guy says "if what you say is accurate," why would I be going too all this trouble about a fictitious business arrangement for Chinese providers? That just doesn't make sense. It would never be the first thing that occurred to me to think that somebody was concocting some elaborate lie for absolutely no apparent gain.
 
BTW, ACSs are run out of the East Coast, but I had no idea it wasn't nationwide. That never even occurred to me until your post.

Well, last time I was in San Fran, the only agencies in the city proper were ACS.  

After seeing a review for an "Amanda" at an ACS, I text them asking if she's available. Of course they say "Yes". They give me the address and when I arrive, I state that I'm there and reiterate that I would like to see Amanda. They say, "Of course," and when I open the door, someone who doesn't match the description of the girl in the reviews answers the door. I ask her what her name is, she says, "Mimi".

AMPs typically honor appointments. There is no such thing with an ACS. Additionally, if you ask for a particular girl at an AMP, you're likely to get her or have the MMS at least acknowledge that she's not available. I consider ACS' to be agencies not in the sense of scheduling/advertising, but because they usually have multiple locations operating under the same number/booker. They also guarantee FS, like agencies, and unlike AMPs (even the ones that are known for FS).

I agree, it's ludicrous to think that ACS' don't exist on the WC. Just because you haven't been to one, doesn't mean that they're not there lol. As far as the "pain in the ass" is concerned, I thought comers was referring to Yansen!

Cripes, I was wondering when you were going to acknowledge fully that you know and have experience with ACSs. I could have used the support in getting the point across. LOL! You and I even tried privately to sort out a review that looked whacked for a girl we both saw and liked. We decided it was either a fake review or they had a second girl at the same location and the reviewer got confused. I should add for the sake of others, it's a profile that I started.  
 
Also, when I use the word 'agency' in a post or review related to ACSs, I try always to put it in quotes. They sure enough are agencies, loosely interpreted, but not the way most of these guys have experienced.
 
My next thread is going to ask "Do you know what an ACS is?" I'm curious how many cities they service. I only know for certain they're in NYC (in a big big way) and DC. It doesn't seem they're on the West Coast. It could be a territorial thing, like the Cosa Nostra East/West Coast back in the day. I'm getting the idea it's so. They're definitely their own breed and highly organized. Now I'm wondering if it's a much more localized phenomenon than I until recently realized.
 
As for timeliness of "appointments," when, as a repeat customer to an ACS, I ask when she'll be ready, I actually do get a straight answer. On the first visit, though, you can ask all you want, what you get in return is some version of "text when you there" or "you come now." I've only had to wait in the parking lot a couple of times, but it is very common with ACSs that you will. One time with a regular, after wafting about a half hour, I called an ACS I knew was set up in another hotel in the same parking lot. That turned out to be one of the most memorable, raw, experiences I've had...nasty!

Allcomers’ advice increases the chance you’ll get to see the girl in the review, but it certainly doesn’t guarantee it.

Okay, I get it now. It did actually work in that, when you asked her name at the door, you were able to learn she was not the girl you wanted to see.
 
What didn't work was the communications prior to the visit. Sorry to hear that and fuck them giving ACSs a worse reputation than they already have -- much of it undeserved, I'd like to add. After dozens of visits, that's only happened to me once and it's not clear it wasn't an honest mistake.
 
As an aside, was it in C'ville and was it really Mimi? If it was, I hope you went in. She is my ATF. Not "one of," but my actual ATF.

We had ACS/massage parlors all over Southern California. I went to my first one in 1984 in North County San Diego. They were all over San Diego, Temecula, Riverside, San Bernardino, Ontario and Palm Springs. Some were in strip malls, some in hotels, and some in apartments/condos. I quit them by the early 90s because the women were almost always older (50 and up) and eventually I found escorts on the internet. Even now I see ACS ads on escort sites in California, Nevada and Florida.

in SoCal as well, but it wasn't until 2007.  They were always in strip centers or an older house on a street that was zoned commercial AND residential.  I found the ladies to be too old as well, and then I went to indie escorts for awhile before a friend pointed me to the Kgirl scene.  

"Pro tip," indeed! That should work. I have asked for a particular girl, been told "no more," and then been sent an HONEST picture of the girl that replaced her. I have also had the experience where, without prompting, I was sent two honest pictures, their names, and ages (which, after seeing the girls, I can say were at least in the ballpark).
   
One of the girls is my ATF (singular) and I was disappointed that they only showed her with her head turned. After eight or nine visits with her, I had no problem knowing it was her, but they obviously, or so I assume, think she isn't pretty enough to show her face. That hurt, lol. She's still my ATF.

ACS ads are crazy, and crazy fun. This one caught my eye and made me cry...laughing. And it's an ACS I use...god love 'em. Be careful, though, it may just cause you to try starting a go*fund*me page for the poor thing:
 
"I am 'Mio' a young Korean girl from Seoul .My photos are 100% real and recent. I don't have a rich family, my parents both left me  when I was very young, I grew up starving sometimes until I have a chance coming to US months ago. Now I get donations by offering No restrictions GFE companionship and Nuru Massage service. Your generosity is appreciated while giving me a chance to get to know you and prove I am your best asian doll choice." [sic]
 
Now doesn't that just make you want to charity-fuck her?! Go do a good deed. LOL. Can you see it now why we love ACSs?!
 
(Ads aren't allowed, so please don't ask me for a link...I'm in enough trouble with TER already)

So let me ask this: Do ads for AMPs include lines like this one, which is pretty much standard for ACSs? Not asking if you've seen an AMP ad with this type of language, I'm asking if it's completely routine, like it is for ACSs:
 
"69+bbbj+gfe+cim+BBFS"

And Latino, white, AA and EE ads also include them -- generally on the Escort section of such ad sites.  

The first is to point out what you call ACS is more about the ad site than the ethnicity of the provider. It's a low-end ad tool where everyone I've ever heard from , and my rather limited experience, all say most of the time you're going to find coal, not a diamond. But all the ads claim to be diamonds.

We're already established that ACS ads don't qualify as Escort Reviews, however the disagreement stems from whether they provide the same service as escorts and should be classified as such, which they do. FS at an AMP doesn't qualify as an Escort Review because of the ad and also because it's not the primary reason for the visit. It's just one part of the whole experience. Even in your example, FS on a repeat visit is not guaranteed, as many times, girls will say that to get you to come back.

And since none of the non-ACS Asian agencies in the area have ads with the terms listed we should think they are (storefront) AMP?

In theory, the categorization of a review may be wholly dependent on the ad that it's based on, however, in practice, that isn't the case. If you ask most mongers, they'll tell you that although the ad is the point of departure for experiences, it contributes the least amount to them, because the bulk of reviews are based on the service that was provided. When the "ability to ask by name" is the smallest difference between ACS' and AMPs, they cannot both be classified as MPs. I think a better argument would be that ACS' don't fit into either of those categories, but that's not the hard-headed argument that you're making.

hobby career, I spent a short time at Asian massage places, which I visited a few dozen times before graduating to escorts (indies first and Kgirls nearly a year later), and I think you hit the nail on the head.  The owners believe all the girls are fungible.  Customers are SUPPOSED to be getting the same service no matter which girl you get, so they don't see why you would be upset getting yummy when you asked for dummy.  Its an assembly line to make it affordable for most guys.  If you are asking for specific girls by name, if they are run the same as when I went years ago, I think you are lucky if you get the girl you asked for 50% of the time.  It goes with the territory.  

This reply is actually a reaction to the quoted Jensen replies, but it's too long to be stuffed ten in from the left margin, so I'm putting it here (sorry Floorhump). So sue me.

No one is treating the girls differently here, certainly not me. What is being distinguished here is the ad that is being used. If the ad has a picture and a name for a specific lady you can make an Escort review. If it doesn't provide that then it will not be acceptable as an Escort review. If the had is not very clear about it then a judgement will be made, which will mean reasonable people can disagree about the decision but in the end it's TER's decision to make.

than any other escort on TER. Tend to agree with Jensen here. If a provider has an ad with her name attached to it, she can be reviewed on TER. If there’s no name attached to the ad, she doesn’t.

Your first statement is not really related to the rest of your post.  

C'mon, you can't tell me you're saying those things after reading what I wrote. I suggest reading each paragraph, focusing on the extensive discussions about ACS ads, in particular the inclusion and exclusion of names, what happens when an ad drops that girl's name after her profile and review(s) has been accepted, and all the other details on the matter. And you somehow have concluded I "ignored" the subject. You cannot have read the post.

After the second or third time I asked you to provide some actual evidence others could look at to confirm you claims and you refused I largely stopped paying attention to your generalized claims of problems that I am suppose to just take on faith are true because you say so.  

They didn't read it or most of what you've posted throughout this thread, I suspect. They stopped engaging in good faith a long time ago. Their modus operandi now is to repeat the same flawed arguments over and over until you grow tired of responding.

allcomers that OTHERS are repeating "the same flawed arguments over and over . . . .?"

I tend to agree with cks and Jensen more than Allcomers. Let me try to explain why.  

Yeah, no curiosity, just irrational clinging to what they think they know. I don't even think some of themcan see their arguments are fatally flawed, compounding their intransigence and total focus on putting personalities before issues. It's willful ignorance, and I won't likely change that. It's not dissimilar to the politics-motivated anti-vaxers, you won't ever get them on board. And like the anti-vaxers, they're putting themselves at harm! The virus killing its host. lol.

I doubt it but it seems he seems to think the observation has merit so is hoping to turn it back on those who made it originally even though the source of the repetition is not the target of his accusation.

Let me start by saying I'm glad to even have the opportunity to  respond to a rational reply, much more so if I could clear some things up. Thanks. I’m going to answer it detail. I’m hoping you show me the same respect and address specific things I've said with which you take issue. You may even go back to my post to see if you can back up what you’re saying; I’m confident you’ll see you misread me...a lot:

First, thanks for a considered response.

IF ONLY! Hahaha. Getting them move back is difficult and it only work 50% of the time for no discernable reason. Why this one and not the other? They don't even bother answering. So I just remind myself to be happy moved a half of them.
 
I actually have a thread going, limping, on the DC board about the Latinas that seem to follow the ACS model. They don't even get reviewed to suffer the insult of being relegated to MP. LOL.
 
I have been offering a solution all along: TER should invite certain users to do pre-processing of reviews. You have to know that we'd do a better job of following TER's own guidelines for reviews. Read the Review FAQ sometime...they don't even do half that shit. We would because we care and, importantly, we have the time! Here's an elucidation from a while ago:
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What I am suggesting is that TER *invite* members based on criteria *TER* develops to do *PRE-screening* of reviews from *their locality.*
 
So, a few ideas, all open for rational debate. If more people were to take this seriously, this list would grow and the approach would be refined. Much of this is based on forum models that are well established, e.g., nationwide dating apps. I've said all of this before, it just keeps getting overlooked:
 
1. TER has the final say, just like today. Invited users only pre-screen reviews, and only local reviews. (Local-only is subject to being market-based. Some markets may not be large enough to support this.)  
 
2. Peer-reviewers cannot reject or approve reviews, only send recommendations to TER with supporting info.
 
3. Reviews go into a queue for a local "peer-review." If no peer-reviewer processes the review within, say, 36 hrs, it gets bumped to the TER mods. (I chose 36-hrs to give each review a solid 24-hr window where for part of it reviewers are awake, available, and outside single-day holidays.)
 
4. Peer-reviewers would use the exact same criteria TER "says" it uses, but we're actually motivated to do so. Any additional criteria or screening guidelines would be at the approval of TER.
 
I don't think any of you doubt that at least *I* think this has great potential for improving reviews on TER. I'm convinced it would work if TER were to buy in.

I can tell you that at least for kgirls, they never get moved to mps. Even when their profiles have no current ad link and they're so far away gone that the only place you can find the link is on webarchive way back machine.

I will not do the justice you're asking but will provide some responses.

Okay, THAT is seriously interesting about the corgs. I like "COrgs" a lot better that "ACS." By the reaction to my posts mentioning them, all the way back to the first one, I knew something was off. Then some of the auto-negativity posters actually said they'd never dealt with an ACS before. And now I think I'm learning that part of the problem seems to be the terminology. You figured out the model I was talking about pretty quickly, but never mentioned corgs, to my recollection. Hmm. I think I need to look at TER reviews for the Bay area.
 
Is it corgs, COrgs, C-Orgs, or what?

Not really. The OTHER escorts don't have the situation where the ad url is used for some other girl.  The entire ad becomes unavailable from the url for the other escorts and if you attempt to access the url in the profile before it's changed to "Report New URL" you will get an HTTP 404 error -- page not found.

I personally don't care much about terminology, as long as everyone understands what is meant.

Yeah, I got what it stood for. It's a far better moniker than ACS. ACSs started out with one wheel in the ditch and I'd love to know who coined the term. Probably dead now. Offed by the ACS bosses lol. Corgs is far kinder.
 
You just described ACSs to a tee, almost exactly. Every article I've ever read about Chinese prostitution in the US has them based in Queens. I'd love to know if Corgs are also run out of Queens or a separate "corporate" structure with a WC city as its US base. Ultimately, from what I've gleaned, the top of the ACS orgs are all in China. Multiple ACS, very few Chinese bosses. Kind of like a franchise operation. If I say to much, I'll probably have a Chinese mafia hit out on me.

The source of the repetition is the target of my accusation...

Jensen, you’ve been here a while. Do you know whether TER gives free VIP days for massage girl reviews? Seems to me that prior to FOSTA/SESTA there were no VIP days for MP and ACS reviews. Is that still the policy?

Not that I know of. Paragraph 7 of the guidelines has not been updated and still says MP reviews are not eligible for VIP days so would think that still holds.

This comment is pretty much a verbatim rehash of your discussion over at Suggestions & Policy. Why not provide a link for those interested?

I thought so. Gives this thread a different perspective.

What perspective does it give?

I started that thread in GD. After only a few days it had over 1300 reads and 65 comments. TER moved it to S&P where, in a month, it has gotten only a handful of reads and exactly two comments. Case closed. LOL.
 
I'll tell you what, though, to those who claim I haven't been offering solutions, my second post to that thread was about further defining the general problem (the OP was kind of a special case), and offering a solution...the one you are familiar with.
 
I think the problem with S&P is nobody wants to look there. And when they do, they don't care enough to post parially because, and I guessing, they know nobody will see it.

You are correct, VIP are not taken back after the review was originally accepted in ER. This almost went off in a really unfortunate direction!

Rocket is correct, no VIP days deduction.
 
After all this, it's hard to believe that anybody doesn't just accept as fact that my only motivation is that I want to be able to find girls through the reviews and the is rendered much less effective by TERs review screening processes.
 
I joined TER for the reviews. That was my sole reason. And then to find that they fuck them up? I decided I'd try to get some changes. I PMed with TER about all the issues I've raised here...a lot. Finally I brought it to the boards. Yeah, that's working great. Sheesh.

This is so obviously wrong that it would never get by us. There are two glaring errors that TER let go. Take a look. Don't look for more than a couple minutes, though. If you spot one or both, let us know. I'll reveal both errors after a few responses. And sorry, I'd love to offer an award for catching both errors...but all I can give you is kudos!
 
https://adultsearch.com/washington-dc/washington-dc/female-escorts/2569609

You linked an ad, not a profile.  D'oh!

You posted an ad without a name, but there’s no review attached to this ad. Where are you getting the idea that TER “let two errors go”?

Oh, fuck me! I copied the wrong link. Here's the link for the profile in question:  
 
https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/candy-5714712115-364006
 
TER moved the profile to MPG, but you can still challenge yourself because it's still all fucked up. However, this time you'll need to actually look at the review to catch the errors. Emphasis on *look* at the review, you don't need to read about his experience.  
 
HINT:
Not only did TER move the profile to MP, but they engaged again in a practice I thoroughly reject, have seem numerous times before, and you should reject it too: they switched the ad since I my original post. *TER* switched the ad! However, they made a huge mistake in choosing the ad to replace it with.

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MPG?

"Massage Parlor Girls"

This has NOTHING to do with K-Girls.

First, who's Will?
 
More importantly, referring to my "concerns" as "personal" is totally missing the point. I'll post another example soon that's actually egregious, not just sad. It won't be a quiz. It will highlight awful behavior that's going to hurt a working girl and deny other guys of seeing her reviews and then, as a result, the pleasure of seeing her.  
 
I found her on TER through her reviews: on a couple occasions, I saw a new review for her show up in my list. I said to myself each time, "I want to see her!" Well I finally did, and last week was my 13th time with her in 3.5 months. She's awesome, and that's almost universally agreed.
 
I've tried more that you know privately to get TER to treat providers with the respect they've earned, that they deserve. Wait until I post about Tina, then tell me this should be a backburner concern among us. Respect. That's all. They owe it to providers and clients alike. I want the chance to find more like her and for others to find her, too.

Read the review and read the Cost of Service in the profile.  Where do you get the idea that TER "moved the profile to MP"?

I'm not sure what you're looking at, but I assure you that it went from ER to MPG *and,* in the process, the ad got switched from the one in my original post to the one that's there now.  
 
While we're at it, anybody ever heard of "kittyads . com" before? Looks third-rate. Seriously, what the hell is going on here?
 
Also, do you all get the serious claim I'm making? No, not that they do a bad job of processing reviews. It's very serious, I think.

"First, who's Will?" Are you kidding? The guy who WROTE the review you're talking about.

1. If you had a problem with the review you should have contacted Will.
2. Since you posted your complaint as an erroneously formatted riddle, we don’t know for sure what your issue was. That said, it seems your upset that it’s been placed in the Massage Category. Why? There are four ad links in the review. Three of them point to an ACS with no names included. The only one that seems to list a name has a phone number that’s not listed in the profile. TER is very clear about requirements to get a profile listed in the Escort section, and this profile as it stands does not meet that criteria.
3.  Next time you decide to put a reviewer on blast, please don’t do it in riddle format.

Can’t you find more ACS girls like her just by searching the Massage Girls section for girls in your area? I don’t see why this is such a big deal? I think the reason that so many of us disagree with you is that we don’t see ACS/Massage Parlor girls.

Isn’t Will also allcomers? That was my conclusion.

A fine idea, until you try it. The problem is that the escorts who have been relegated to MPG don't show up when a client attempts to review them. Instead, they're presented with the option to create a new profile, which usually gets rejected by TER for lack of a provider name (that part is fair enough). And that's usually where it ends. No new review.

I didn't pay attention to the reviewer since the problems I have are:  
 
1) That it ever got published in the first place with the errors in it
2) That after I pointed it out to you guys, TER switched the ad...to an ad matching the phone number, which is the wrong number for the review. The first ad was correct, only the number was wrong, Now both are wrong.
3) Then, after pointing that out in this thread, TER added a bunch of other reviews, three of which are incorrect. They're chasing their tail on this one.
 
And non of this bothers you guys?? TER is manipulating profiles!

OK, time's up: here's the PRIMARY error in the profile that TER let go:
 
The phone number is for a different girl. It's not just wrong, It's for ANOTHER GIRL.
 
The second error was that the ad didn't mention a provider by name.
 
And, despite all their fucking about with the ads in the profile, they have never fixed the "original sin," the phone number is still terribly wrong (and it's for another girl, an independent 30 miles away who has over 20 reviews on TER!).

Okay. I'll leave you to your own issue and stay out of it. Starting to sound like it might wind up like the Club Love Line situation in Vegas which ended poorly for the agency, the ladies who worked there, and the guys who stanned them. Best of luck to you.

I think you should try to convince the places you visit (that is, convince the owner / operator / Mamasan / Providers) that it would in their best interest to create a website and provide other details that would make it easier to be reviewed on TER. A website with real photos and real (Provider) names would enhance the popularity of some girls which will be advantageous to the others, as well.  
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And even fear of a negative review isn't always justified because it can IMPROVE the experience if they follow up and correct the issue. "... cleaned me up with a cold water wash cloth. Puh-leeeze, use the warm water!" "The door on the last room on the left doesn't latch properly and keeps popping open. I'm not going back until they fix that." And even constructive criticism about the service itself.  
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I don't think TER will change. Tell your ACS places to change!

Hold on, I have no idea what you're talking about. So, before you leave, how about a link or someway to learn from the history of which you speak?

CORRECTION: That should have read:
   
3) Then, after pointing that out in this thread, TER added a bunch of other **ads**, three of which are incorrect. They're chasing their tail on this one.

After a profile is established, any changes are as a result of Problem Reports submitted by guys (or sometimes the providers themselves).  TER does not add "a bunch of other ads" on their own.  It's not what they do.

I beg to differ. Have you ever submitted a Problem Report? If you have, then you know they don't react in a matter of hours, not even days sometimes. I have receipts this time.
 
And while you're at it, take a look at my thread about "Tina" on the DC forum. I have receipts there, too.  
 
Yes, it's manipulation and all of us should care.

by making me agree with BigP, but he's right on this one.   Lol

Nah. You consistently tell me and other experienced members that we’re wrong and you’re right, or that we don’t understand and you do. I’ll let you research this one for yourself. But if I were you I would tread very carefully. You’re starting to look like you’re promoting or shilling for DMV area ACS girls and that won’t end well for you if Admin agrees with me.

That's pure shit, and you know it. Show me a single example of me saying "experienced members" are wrong where they were right. Just one and I'll concede.
 
You turned sour when I told you I had "experience" in using the MPG reviews and they proved useless. Your response made no sense and I let it go. Maybe you could start there by telling me, first, how that was saying *you* were "wrong" and, second, how *I* was wrong.
 
I'm not about picking fights, I'm trying to open eyes. (And can we dispense with the spurious, made up claims...I'm shilling... cut it out. That's the sound of empty arguments. You can do better.)

Allcomers has stated he’s only acting in the best interest of the ACS girls vis-á-vis visibility, but his board comments and reports seem to be having the opposite effect. Might be best if he takes a step back and allows the TER/ACS ecosystem settle back into its previously undisturbed state.

Correct. I’m hoping Admin will pick up on his act and take the appropriate action. For now I’m done responding to him.

if you're not going to pay attention to which name you post under?

passion has two n's.  Lol

He's a real beauty. A felcher boy wannabe. Probably one of those Neurotic Donkey guys who migrated here when the Donkey stopped giving them free VIP for their fake reviews of cheap ACS and MP girls. Heck, even the illustrious BPOS called him out for his idiocy.

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LOL

tell allpassion that he knows he's on the wrong side for sure if he can get BigP and I to agree on something.  Lol    

You know what's most interesting about that...It let me! All day until just a while ago, I've had to switch it to my alias — this one slipped through. It was bugging me enough that I closed all my open windows and cleared my cache, and yet it persisted. It was bound to get me. LOL. Not a big deal, but the fun for me has been taken away.