Spinoff of the other thread.  

I consider every review to have a degree of "fakeness" as they're all subjective. While I would consider both of your examples to be fake, the younger girl being misrepresented as being older is more egregious an offense to me because, at least for us in the NE, younger providers are a rarity, much less someone actually in her early 20s. I think most of us understand that these providers usually are in their late 30s-40s, so I've come to expect providers' ages to be misrepresented as younger. It doesn't make the practice right, but it's just the way things are, at least until we get more travel into the country.

makes a review fake.  Most white guys who are new to the Kgirl scene are really bad at figuring out what age bracket a Kgirl falls into, so they will often just accept the age the ad says, which usually falls into the 21-25 bracket.  I would be more likely to call a review fake where the reviewer said a 20-something was a MILF.  White guys always err on the side of guessing a younger age, rarely an older age, than she actually is.  

So you agree it's assymetrical criteria? I like that you have the balls to admit it. Thanks for the honest answer.

I actually generally agree with you. I don't think that age miscalculation is a basis of a fake review, unless there are other factors and patterns.

Try mongering in Japan, Korea, Singapore and Thailand. All of the Asian girls chop five to seven (or more) years off of their age unless they actually are in their early 20s.  

There are no providers in the bay right now that are under 30. My $.02

The other reviews are bad reviews. Those might be just sloppy or uninformed or inexperienced reviewer or they might be intentionally misleading.

Maybe I'm missing something here but the ad ages and the understanding that they do under report (23/24 means mid 20 and under 30; 25 means early/mid thirties; 26 means late 30s very good looking early 40s; 27/28 means 40s and 29 means  late 40s at best)

This thread is neither about floor nor sunny nor that thread. I made this thread as a spinoff to ask this question in general, specifically.  

I agree that the TER age ranges are broad, however, few people call out age discrepancies between the TER profile and a more "accurate" age estimate (myself included). I can see how that could be considered an implicit acceptance of the profile's stated age, making the issue one of reviews, not ads, although those are also relevant.

Yes, they are equally fake, but which one is really more misleading. Far from me wanting to defend FloorHumper, but he raises a good point. If you read a review where the provider is listed as 25 when she is really over 40 are you REALLY surprised, and did that review really influence your decision to see her in the hopes/expectations of seeing a provider who is actually 25? If so, you need adult supervision before being allowed in public.

You were given the criteria: fake reviews as reviews of sessions that never happened. Non-fake reviews are reviews of sessions that did occur and can be good, bad or intentionally misleading.  Inaccurate aspects of review can be called out without any attempt to classify the review as fake, or even to claims the motivation behind the inaccuracy.  

"reviews of sessions that never happened." is not a criteria. You cannot know for 100%sure if it happened or not. Stop playing dumb.  

I'm sorry, this is nonsense GaG, and yet again an example of double standards. I always err on the older side and there is never an intent from me to fuck her over.

I am not interested in "the way things are everywhere". Slaves were everywhere before Civil War. And? Women couldn't vote 120 years ago in most places? And? Pointing fingers at others and saying that's how things are a lazy, status-quo copout.  

You’ve been reading too many SJW blogs. That comparison is pure hyperbole.

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had to do with INTENT.  There is a difference between a reviewer that is just clueless about estimating ages and one who is intentionally misleading others with a dishonest review.  If a guy really thinks a hot young 25 year old is 40, AND HAS NO OTHER MOTIVATION, then I would submit that he is relatively inexperienced with Kgirls in general.  I have never seen an instance where a reviewer has put a girls age 15 years older than she really is unless he has some kind of beef with her, so again, the operative word is INTENT.  Are you really saying that after all of the Kgirls you have allegedly seen, you REALLY can't tell the difference between a 25 year old and a 40 year old Kgirl, and that you have met 25 year olds that looked and acted 40?  In my experience, the immaturity of 20-something Kgirls can be assessed in a matter of seconds.  

Intent cannot be easily inferred. I am pretty good at evaluating Asian girl age, but sometimes even I am stumped. I believe I wrote in a thread recently abooit a girl who could be anywhere from late 20s to mid 40s and then I found out she was 50. I erred on the older side and received shit from mongers who were telling me she's younger. She was older than any of my evaluations lol.

There have been literally 1000s of posts and hundreds of threads on overly generous reviews, and whether they are just guys blinded by the the sex they got to have (perhaps because they don't get it otherwise or from women who are much less attractive) or shilling for their favorites.

Quite moving your goal posts rocket. Your OP is "fake reviews" now you want to talk about positive and negative reviews.

I'm not moving any goalposts. I wanted concrete criteria. The criteria I saw someone use was calling someone a milf and thus being off in age and saying she had (allegedly) thinner ass.

as you yourself pointed out. That is very subjective. Some might not accept is if applied to a 20 something mother while others might. Other think the term refers to a hot looking woman that is in their 30s or 40s.

First, apologies. I got carried away a bit, but I get very pissed off at double standards.

me the definition of a MILF is blurred, until now.  I think most guys understand a MILF is a woman with children, not babies, who is turning the corner from hot to matronly, is between early thirties and mid-forties, who's body is not what it was in her 20's (maybe a little  sag here and there, or a few extra pounds on her hips an thighs), but may still be a decent fuck.

Milf had always been a blurred term imo.

you posted a nice analysis about what you concluded was a fake/misleading review (personally I think you should try keeping the two separate in you own mind and rhetoric) and got a very nice complement from GaG. I agreed with his take. What I think made it good was the neutral tone, non-accusatory and non-lecturing style of writing you adopted for that one post.

It's tough not to be accusatory in these . I take each every fake positive review personal, as each is aimed at extracting more money from my monger brethren. It makes my blood boil.

... is like, well, it's like trying to guess an Asian woman's age. :p  It's pretty damn difficult without a lot of research, evidence and experience.  

I am totally with you. Even about the incessant, immature trolling. I apologize for feeding the troll by replying to him. That was a rookie mistake.  

I appreciate the post, but I think you're not really addressing my question. I want to know what is the basis of which a fake review can be called out because too many people on here treat calling out fake negative reviews differently than they do calling out fake positive reviews.

I hope you see the inherent flaw in that idea.  

Particularly when writing the review fresh from the high.

No, I do not see an inherent flaw.

And I appreciate that you took time to spell out your process and reasons for doing the work.  

I  dated a few Kgirls on the outside that were legitimately in their 20's (back then I was only 50-ish and still competing as an amateur senior weight-lifter), and one thing I can assure you is that even the younger girls look better at the incall than they do on the outside.  Trying to make themselves look better than they really are is not unique to the older Kgirls.  Other than oversized tits for a Korean, a lot of the Kgirls of all ages would not get a second look from guys passing them on the street in the light of day.  

Agreed that MILF is about age (and hotness) and not about status as mothers. Unwed teen mothers aren't usually considered MILFs and there are hundreds of childless porn stars who make MILF videos.  

Dude, I did not mean girls themselves (or guys for that matter) trying to make themselves look better than they are.  

This is at least the second time he’s gone round and round lamenting the fact that words are used so imprecisely.  Yeah, I know. It’s been more than that. But who’s counting? This time alone it’s been going on for over 4 days.

Another condescending post of your that attacks me instead of discussing the issue on hand.

So far you have yet to prove a conspiracy of any sort.

Well, I think (and this is just my guess here, if I'm wrong please accept my apologies) that you do a lot more research for SBs likely because you will be spending more money and time on them, so it's in your interest to have your larger investments not be a dud.  

I'm a few days late but ...
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There's a big difference between fake or fraudulent and incorrect or mistaken or erroneous.  
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I consider a fake or fraudulent review to be one spun out of whole cloth: no meeting ever occurred or other fakeness almost that extreme.  
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I consider an incorrect or erroneous review to be one with mistakes which could include an age assessment. Some errors are due to poor memory or confusing Providers with one another. Some are due to a lack of Carnival Barker Age Guessing skills.  (When it comes to age, I care less about actual chronological age than I do about a BELIEVABLE age ... that is, an age that I will believe, not an age that my hostess will believe.  
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I've read "no tattoos" about girls with enough ink that it shouldn't have been missed. Or "short hair" on someone known to have long locks; maybe she wore her hair up that day? Some reviewers will swear to "Naturals" when everyone else knows that they are really well done fakes. And so on.
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Fake reviews and error laden reviews are both bad. But the motives of the reviewers differ.

Again that's fair, but where do you draw the line between a fake review or incorrect review?

We’ve tried talking to him before about the possibility of some reviews that he is calling fake actually being honest mistakes. But nobody has gone into as much detail for him as you just kindly did. Anything other than photo perfect accuracy has been called a lie so far. Though who knows how he makes that determination. Since by his own admission, he’s not actually seeing any girls this year.

You call me out for "conspiracy" yet you yourself cried conspiracy when negative reviews dropped for LSC, lol

So, what are you talking about and who are you talking to?

The link is to a thread.  

But you still quoted sag and not me. Sounds like you need to work on reading. It seems to be a continuing problem for you. Prove that what I said in my part of the thread is wrong. Or just prove your conspiracy theory.  

particular post.  If you make  it easy to go to what you're talking about, more people  will follow the conversation.  If you make them search for it, they will just  go onto another  post and skip yours. It does make little sense to talk about useyrhead's post, but link to the OP on the thread.   Some dishonest posters always goes directly to a post because they like to take things out of context, but most people will read a post or two up the thread from the linked post to get the context anyway.

He also attributed Sag’s comments to me.

I literally quoted your post in the message you've replied to.

When have you *ever* seen me call out a review? Yes, I’ve commented on someone else calling out a review.  

Who was that someone else in that thread. Prior to your post, no one called out those reviews as fake.  

A beautiful example of your creative reading.  

As expected, you fail to address the actual topic of this little conversation and you switch to the dumb little copout topic you use about me using an alias. If ter allows me to, I'll gladly switch to nonalias account so you can't use your little copout anymore.  

"If ter allows me to, I'll gladly switch to nonalias account...."

and if you really want to keep the Rocket name you can always ask them to change your handle to that name.

Sorry, dude. None of us have to play your game. I know what I wrote. Anyone else can read it. And it doesn’t say what you want everyone to believe.

What I meant was switch my reviews and everything under the rocket name and make it non-alias.  

The good news is that you won’t have to spend so much time trying to make up plausible lies about people calling you on your crap anywhere near so often soon. Won’t that be nice?

Well, it happened halfway. You can ignore me now but it still does not show my reviews here for some reason...the alias system is kinda garbo. Not just for this reason.  
And I never claimed to be smart, btw.  

Yes, when I wrote "And sometimes, a non-positive review is simply a representative and truthful review. Especially if trusted mongers who usually give high scores, give a low score. In fact, it's probably the most likely hypothesis"  

Either you skipped all your English lit and other classes that are required for a degree in college, or you know as well as everyone else that what I said doesn’t mean what you so loudly proclaim.

I've literally QUOTED what you said. You keep trying to dodge this is absolutely and utterly pathetic. But what can you expect from someone who cant bring himself to answer who benefits from negative reviews being discredited. Or someone who keeps saying that negative reviews are useless for kgirls.  Lol. E-40 made a song about you 25 years ago that still holds true.  

If you haven’t stopped using it, you’re still hiding. You can do this. Conquer your fear.

Are you slow? I'm not using an alias anymore.  
Sounds like the whatever labs you work at, their fumes got to you.  

This time it actually let me put in the Ignore request. I can’t thank you enough for finally facing your fears and keeping your word.

Respectfully Userbro,

Good, you finally understood it. Bye. You won't litter my posts on double standards and fake reviews anymore with your garbage narrative.  

Honestly fake reviews piss me the hell off but you also have to consider that some people are just bad at guessing age, especially with Asians, who age very well/are hard to pin down accurately. Plus, taking into account the low/dim lighting in a lot of kgirl incalls, and makeup, etc. and the issue becomes fuzzier still. I personally don't look at age listed for kgirls, I assume they are all 30-40ish unless reviewers specifically call her young/very young. And even then, they've been wrong.

I’ve caught him lying so many times past my limit of tolerance that I no longer believe anything he writes.

I haven't lied a single time on this board, to anyone. I've always told the truth and am proud of telling the truth in a sea of lies that this biz entails.  

Are you guys going to get another thread to run  completely off the right hand side of the page?

I was biting my tongue so I didn't say anything. Clearly I didn't need to.