I remember reading they may be making bbbj illegal in FKKs. Is this true? Do I have to make another trip as soon as possible?
Planning a trip this summer and remember reading this awhile ago????
Off course it's legal... for another month or so. From July 1st onwards all sex (oral, vaginal and anal) has to be safe and sex without condom is illegal, with the client being liable for a fine (up to 50000 euros). It is not yet clear if DATY or rimming is also included, or just penetration.
What this means in reality is the big question. There are a few other changes in the new law and it seems that in most cases the authorities aren't really preparing to do things differently. The police had made clear they don't have the means (nor the desire) to actively check condom use...
Currently a similar law is already in effect in Bavaria and the Saarland. In Bavaria there are actual checks (going as far as interrupting couples), in Saarland nothing is checked. I would expect something similar to happen here: in some places many checks, in others not. It is not federal law enforcement that will be responsible.
In any case it seems clear cut that most will change to CBJ and (some) girls will use this to ask extra money for BBBJ. It will take a bit of time for the dust to settle and then we'll see what the new status quo is. In the mean time you can still get BBBJ in the Dutch, Austrian or Swiss clubs.
The German Government just gave the girls another revenue stream.
How do the Dutch, Austrian, and Swiss clubs compare to Sharks? I've been to Goldentime in Vienna and the girls were hot, but it was smaller and the top girls at Sharks ranked higher, I think. Are the other places better?
Damn I wish I could've made it back out before July 1st.
I've been reading about my favorite AO FKK and communicating with locals on another site. The clubs (at least this one) seem to be responding as follows:
1. Taking down any AO ads or signs in the main club areas.
2. Public sex, which generally consisted of BBBJs and sometimes even BBFS, has ended.
3. Extras are discussed in the rooms with the gift going directly to the girl.
Interestingly, several of the AO clubs are already doing this in advance of July 1. It's smart to get into the new way of doing things and work out the bugs before the law kicks in. The AO clubs, which tend to be smaller, less ritzy and with less attractive girls, simply have to do something like this if they are to survive. If it's one thing about this hobby, it's incredibly resilient. BB-anything isn't going to go away. It will become more discrete.
German .... Alles Ohne = All Without Condom.
Since July 1 is now upon us, I would appreciate any Intel on how the German clubs are reacting to the new law. I am planning a trip in late July. I'm considering spending some time in Austria, the clubs there are a bit more expensive but are not subject to the new law.
Is the fine really €50,000? That is a lot of cash. I certainly don't want to run afoul of the authorities in a foreign country. I wonder if President Trump will even let me back in if I were to do so ?
Be safe and Happy Hobbying!!
Heading to Europe in early September for several weeks. Has anyone been to Sharks or Oase to see what effect....if any...the new laws have had ? Or, are they being enforced....fully or selectively?
Anyone able to share what's happening? Mandatory CBJ would be a deal breaker for me personally....would head to Holland, Austria or Switzerland instead for playtime....
No worries, post 1 July it still is not an issue in the NRW area. Sorry, I had to use my alias for some privacy factors but I've been to 3 clubs and zero issues. PM me if you have any further questions.