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P411 and escort agency question
jayrobert 1888 reads
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Hello. I have a question. I am an established P411 client. One of the Raleigh based escort agency also has ID in P411. However when I request appointment to that agency thru P411, they are requesting me to provide my personal info thru their website like my Name, Employer, Ph# etc. I thought P411 members need NOT provide those details, in order to protect our privacy. Can some one clarify what is the right process here? Thank you.

If I'm not mistaken, I know some agencies like to keep their clients personal/screening info in a data base for future reference.  How many references/OK's do you have?  If you don't have any or only 1 then that may be why as well.

Gina/P411 encourages ladies and agencies to screen to whatever level makes them comfortable. Often being a P411 member is enough. Sometimes more information is required. The ladies/agencies are free to determine that just as you are free to decide how much info you're willing to provide.

It depends. As Carson mentioned, unless you have 2+ okays in p411, most agencies and independents will still ask for additional information.  
With agencies, they have an ENORMOUS target on their back with LE. There are many reasons for this, but lately?  LE has a lot of funding and political reasons for going after "trafficking", and its much easier to sell an agency bust to the public as a win, than nabbing some independents who are simply doing heir own thing.
I understand your concern. Honestly, an agency asking for all of that info means they are likely one of the safest agencies to use, since they're screening carefully and are less likely to get busted. However, if local LE is motivated enough, or wants to bust a specific agency, they can and it's only a matter of time, no matter how safe the agency tries to stay.
 I'm not sure I would give out all of my personal info to an agency in the current legal environment. If this concerns you, have you considered sticking with independents? Even if you hand out your real info, statistically you're much much less likely to ever have that info found or used against you if you see an independent vs an agency - but most independents won't require all of that info anyway.

 
Regarding p411, one last note. P411 sells itself as a screening service, but even gina herself says she encourages providers to only use it as one part of their screening. P411 does NOT do a super intensive background screen, they don't check blacklists, etc. if you're employment verified, that's very easy to fake- as evidenced by busts where employment verification was used for screening.  
Some members aren't background checked at all, as long as they get an okay from 2 p411 providers they don't require real world info from the member. There have been pretty big busts by LE getting on p411 and accumulating okays.  
Members have been kicked off for rape/assault/not paying. Just knowing you're on p411 doesn't assure anyone that you aren't out to entrap or hurt them. As an independent, if someone doesn't have references from a provider I know and trust personally, then I want real world info, because if they hurt me I want to be able to track them down. Not like o can call the cops if someone assaulted me and just say "It was John-01-A-1234 on p411, I'm sure you can track him down", haha :)

Grace,

Your post is most timely, as one well known/liked agency suddenly disappeared, as in "POOF".  Somebody was breathing down their neck, and like Raven, discretion was the better part of valor and fade to black they chose to do. You have a PM.

Dfusethesituation108 reads

I'm not trying to poop on anyones parade, but that information is critical and not just anyone should have it.  Yeah I understand safety is paramount, but if a client has 10 plus "Okays" from very reputable ladies, then I'm pretty sure he is not a harmful person.  On the flip side, we as clients are to assume that we will not get ripped off or be treated to a lackluster session because the provider has good reviews right?  To each his own, but giving up employer info and things outside of name, phone number, etc is a no go for me.  Clients are heavily screened by P411 to begin with, I get sort of an uneasy feeling when I have to re-issue out that info to a person that is not going to safeguard it.  If 10 plus current "Okays" and 30 plus reviews aren't enough, then it wasn't meant to be, move on.

Posted By: jayrobert

Hello. I have a question. I am an established P411 client. One of the Raleigh based escort agency also has ID in P411. However when I request appointment to that agency thru P411, they are requesting me to provide my personal info thru their website like my Name, Employer, Ph# etc. I thought P411 members need NOT provide those details, in order to protect our privacy. Can some one clarify what is the right process here? Thank you.

And yet I believe there was a client out in Cali with 10+ Okays who ripped off and was violent towards a provider.  Other providers complained about him and Gina decided two complaints wasn't enough.  

jayrobert121 reads

Thank you all for the input/feedback. Nice to hear both sides of the aisles. BTW, I have 5 p411 OKs. Plus I am also an established p411 member for the last 5+ years too.

While I rely on it a lot it's not the be all end all for me. Full names are necessary for a date with me even if a gent has 20 okays or more on P411. And I will contact a few of the ladies off the okay list as well.  

Steph xoxo

You have taught me a lot about screening. Someone like you that values her privacy and safety  is more likely to get all that she asks for on the first contact. The less she exercises discretion the less information I want to share. I remember the lady that got busted over here and had a ledger in her closet in a lock box.
I hope that our schedules and my bank account align soon.

We eventually  do sooner or later, don't we?

Steph xoxo

Honestly, after reading about the agency bust in detail in Atlanta and then hearing about the biggest agency in NC going down I would never give an agency my personal info or ever suggest a lady to work for one. Use only independant providers or you are putting yourself at risk.

but if something happens to me.. it's on me not on them. So I screen myself.

I'm assuming everyone is here is talking about NCVIP?  I had seriously seen a gal less than 2 weeks ago and the site is gone and the phone is cut off.  

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