It is a crap-shoot, Rutger. The term GFE always has the understood but never stated YMMV following it. No girl is obligated to do anything. A girl may be a bona-fide GFE, but had a bad feeling or was turned off for some reason. You said she was not your type and perhaps vice-versa.

All we can do is check the reviews and see what girls are more consistently GFE than others and then cross our fingers. We've all had good sessions and bad sessions, and there are definetly girls out there that use the GFE term falsely to get business. But, thank god for TER, which has improved the odds for us greatly. My advice, research, research and more research before making an appointment.

I think with all the YMMV  a true GFE would tell the client up front( BEFORE TAKING HIS MONEY) that she can't be GFE with him,
that way no one gets hurt

At the very physical minimum, it's FS with DFK, BBBJ, DATY.

Additional things such as personality, energy, friendliness, etc. add to the total G-irl F-riend E-xperience.

As a paying client, this is what *I* want. Agency owners, who falsly advertise, and GFE wannabes need not apply. The boards have been around long enough to know what "girlfriends" do.

Further, unfulfilled expectations due to false advertising should be addressed here, publicly, in this forum.

I've seen references to different scales people go by, I don't recall ever looking at such scales, but you should all adopt version of GFE.  Because I said so.  You can call this the "Viril Scale".

It's called GFE because it means "Girlfriend Experience".  This might mean different things to different guys, depending on their experience of what a girlfriend means to them, or what they want a girlfriend to mean to them.  But I think the best way to define it is an optimal condition which would make any guy happy, no matter what the different levels of expectation are.

- Attraction on both the physical and personality levels.  This is a subjective thing, so possibly applied just in general as in: would she be attractive to at least some guys and would her personality appeal to a majority of guys.

- Not counting the donation in front of me.  No talking about money.

- Not discussing what she doesn't do up front.  When with a girl, I can adjust to her limitations, if any, as we are getting comfortable with each other, that is more pleasurable than having an initial sit-down of her list of NOs.

- Full service, obviously.

- Playful & teasing, not just trying to get me off ASAP unless that's what I'm asking for.

- Decent conversation, if that is part of what I'm seeking.

- Early on, LFK -gradually- working into DFK.  I like DFK just as much as the next guy but when a girl is immediately ramming her tongue down my throat and does that nonstop without light kissing mixed in, it feels staged.

- Regular LFK, at least occasional DFK.

- Any and all positions, with Greek and Asian exceptions, and presuming she can handle the positions - some girls find some positions difficult or painful for one reason or another.  I won't hold that against her so long as she tries her best to please.

- BBBJ, although CBJ is forgivable if she's truly concerned with STDs and does everything else with gusto and enjoyment.  If BBBJ, then TC.  CIM is my favorite, so that is a big plus for me, but it's a personal preference and I think just TC, even if it's to release on her face or body, is a big positive factor if BBBJ is something she does do.

- Touching -MY- body regularly, physical feedback to let me know she enjoys my physical presence.

- At least some verbal/sound feedback that she's enjoying anything I'm doing for or with her.  I am a quiet guy, but do enjoy that sort of feedback from girls.

- Kissing of my body, not just my mouth and Mr Pringles.

- Allowance and actual enjoyment of DATY presuming I want to do that for her.

- Mutual undressing, or at least the feeling that she wants to even if I don't and simply want to get right to it.

- Multiple pops offered.

- Caressing and cuddling in between pops, and after the last pop.

- Helps me clean up.

- No clock-watching and actual unrushed session, as in at least a little more than the length of time agreed on.  That, and quality of time spent, are where tips result from.  This is difficult for agency girls to do but I have my understanding of how to give even those girls the time flexibility, presuming it's something they actually do.  If I give them that flexibility and they don't go with the flow of it, then what they offer isn't truly GFE.

most Boston agencies do not offer gfe,with some exceptions so if it's a local agency advertising in the pheonix chances are your in for a disappointment.ymmv is an overated term unless you are not clean but I wonder how often that really happens.seems to be a problem mostly on the womans side as they rush from appointment to appointment.

i thought GFE meant you were treated as a girlfriend

I thought girlfriend experience meant you treat the client as if he was your boyfriend.
I didn't think it actually referred to specific acts.
For instance, personally I don't like deep french kissing, i like soft sweet kisses with light tongue action. That's what I would do with a boyfriend.
But if a client wants DFK, I'll do it but it doesn't mean it's a girlfriend experience.