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Bondassage vs Elysium
Cardbacker 2 Reviews 3557 reads
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Can those of you certified or more knowledgable than I please explain the difference between the two?   I have tried Bondassage and was quite pleased with it but if there was one thing I didn't like was the blindfold as I enjoy watching ( males ARE visual beasts after all:).    The flogging I could take or leave, as I could the massage.    The part I loved was the restrained predictament with slow buildup with anticipation that ended happily and with great intensity.  Due to the headphones, there was minimal conversation, which I understand is part of the not knowing what or when something is coming next....

I presume I am not alone in  enjoying the banter from a skilled practitioner who delights in the "frustration" and controlling aspect?

I really like the t and d along with edging so from what I understand, the Elysium might be more up my  dark alley ;).  

Please chime in here or via PM, whichever you prefer...TIA

jaeleen2341 reads

Hi there

Thanks for your question!  Both Elysium and Bondassage are types of bondage massage combined with sensory deprivation (blindfold and headphones).  Elysium uses slower, more meditative music and is all about the massage. Bondassage uses a bit more upbeat music and includes body percussion (ie light flogging) and sensation play.

I specifically created both of them to include sensory deprivation because of the fact that men are such visual creatures.  I found that by taking away sight, it helped folks drop deeper into their bodies and helped them feel sensations more intensely.

The blindfold, headphones, and restraints are integral to both types of sessions.  If you're not comfortable with them, I'm sure you can find a "tease and denial" provider, either in the BDSM or massage categories.

Thanks, also, for trying it out!

Best,

Jaeleen Bennis
Creator and Founder of Bondassage and Elysium

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Cardbacker1070 reads

Jaeleen....thanks for the reply.   I did one session with a trained Bondassage practitioner a couple years ago and please realize when I say I could take or leave the flogging and the massage, I am splitting hairs on which aspect of the experience I personally liked best.    

There was NEVER a moment where I thought, "wow, this sucks, I wish I was at home working on my taxes":)

We each have those certain things that trip our triggers more than others but overall, I loved the experience and would encourage anyone to try it.    Thanks for sharing your skill sets with the world.   Perhaps one day I can see the master;)

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jaeleen1126 reads

I'd be honored :)

xoxo

J

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scoed694 reads

I am very interested in Bondassage and Elysium but I know being both bound and blind folded is likely do to PTSD to put me in a very dark headspace and will have to safe word out. I find being bound more mentally tough to bare than physical pain or discomfort. When combined with sensory deprivation bondage can lead to flashbacks of a really bad time and place. I know both the sensory deprivation and bondage are key to the experience but is there a lighter versionthat would give some of the feel without sending me into panic mode?

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jaeleen789 reads

Talk to your practitioner. They are trained in the sequence but free to make it their own.
 
I occasionally skip the bondage as long as the receiver understands that they are not to touch.  "Pretend" bondage, if you will.  I'm a stickler for the blindfolds and headphones, however.

Jaeleen

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Cardbacker610 reads

Scored.....in my first Bondassage experience, it's a snowy winter night in Chicago, I find my way to her incall, make my way to her apartment.....within 15-20 minutes of my arrival I am face down on her massage table getting bound down when I start to freak out about what could go wrong here completely restrained.....i must watch too much CSI and similar dramas as she was a highly reviewed provider with excellent reviews actually.....

So I stop her, tell her my concerns and she improvises and comes up with this twist.....she ties my right arm with a single thread of string that I could have easily broken if needed but says "if you thrash around and break the string, the session is over".   Perfect solution and no I didn't break the thread!    Awesome session from there on out.    

As Jaeleen said, for you perhaps just "pretend" restraints fixes your concern.  Just communicate with the provider beforehand to make sure you are compatible.    

BTW I asked her later post session if she would have actually ended the session and she said "you'll never know".   It's that kind of mind f{#%ing that makes this such a fun game.   I would highly recommend Bondassage.   It was wonderful.   PM me if you have any ?s.

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TSRachel665 reads

for those who do not wish to be restrained can be the answer, as it allows one of the practitioners to always have supervision of your hands and feet. I am actually offering Four Hand with a touring Bondassage practitioner this week (Clair Jordan of Las Vegas) in Chicago. I also have straps I can attached to my table, that I have those who feel uneasy to hold onto if they aren't comfortable with being restrained. Like Jaeleen, I too feel the blindfolds (the ones she has us use are unique and amazingly comfortable) and the headphones are integral to the experience that is Bondassage and Elysium and I require them for both.

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The Invisible Man688 reads

My experience is that the bondage part of bondassage is already "bondage lite".  It's not like you are spread eagled and held down.  You are lying on a massage table and comfortable shackled.  I forgot I was shackled during my session.  You aren't trying to struggle against the bonds.  It pretty much removes the dominant BDSM feel from the bondage.  

But, of course, as Jaeleen already said, work with your practitioner and I am sure she'll be able to customize her session to your needs.

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ClairJordan778 reads

...and is probably 'lighter' than most.  Everyone puts their own spin on it.
But!  I agree with Jaeleen and Rachel that the blindfold and headphones are integral to take you into your subconscious, which is what the experience is about.  

However Bondassage is conducted, it Rocks!!

xoClair

 
 

Posted By: The Invisible Man
My experience is that the bondage part of bondassage is already "bondage lite".  It's not like you are spread eagled and held down.  You are lying on a massage table and comfortable shackled.  I forgot I was shackled during my session.  You aren't trying to struggle against the bonds.  It pretty much removes the dominant BDSM feel from the bondage.    
   
 But, of course, as Jaeleen already said, work with your practitioner and I am sure she'll be able to customize her session to your needs.

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scoed551 reads

As for it being bondage light, we all have our owe triggers and limits. I have been tied down beaten hard with a flogger and zapped with a cattle prod and that was fine as I could use my senses to stay present. But being bound and blind folded and bound without anything else and I was reduced to a crying mess replaying past traumas and was reduced to a point I was mentally unable to safe word out. Good thing my wife was a great and safe worded for me as her voice brought me back and it was healing instead of harmful but I doubt anyone else could have easily pulled me out. Blind folds fine, bondage fine, though both are more extreme than corporal play but together, can't take it. I also have real issues with anal play.  

Again thanks for the advice and information

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ClairJordan804 reads

Thought I'd throw this out there!
We would love to do some 4 hands sessions together.

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TrulyMsMocha608 reads

Related Link: Moi :) ....

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