Hibernating.... but I know what you are talking about

Guys are canceling appointments. That is an abnormality. You can have four or 500 views on the ad but five calls during the week. I could see hobbyist twice a month!  I’m ready to quit!  
If time doesn’t change Atlanta is going to lose the really good girls. And gain a lot of problems by girls who are in an adequate, substandard, and do not give the quality of care that those of us that are around our prepare to gI’ve.
Maybe it’s the flu .., maybe it’s .., grrrt

Maybe guys are sticking with their tried and true regulars.....and are tired of jumping through hoops, 90 minute minimums, and requests for full name and/or upfront deposits.

Have a great weekend all!

Hi Charlie, could you help me out and be more specific. What exactly...

...do you mean by the "change? Who exactly is leaving and why? Sometimes a person's experience feels like it's going on everywhere but after some reflection they see it isn't as widespread as they thought. I'm not saying that is true regarding your post but I need more details to be sure I understand what you want to communicate. If possible please give specifics which will help us be sure we get your point/points. Your post sounds like the lead now give us the who, what, why, when, where.

 
I've been in Atlanta a long time and I am well aware of events here in the past year but I can't just assume that's what you are referring to.

 
The ladies I've known are still active here. They aren't going anywhere. Every few days one or two of the ladies on my favorites list gets another review. My experience doesn't appear to be your experience.

 
It's true the Atlanta board isn't as active as it use to be and I think I know why but I could be wrong.

I see new girl after new girl ads with 500 and above donations though
Which just seems weird

justified fear, over what happened this time last year.  They are still gun shy.  They are slowly coming back out.  But they are scared.  One even told me that before meeting me that he feared someone had stole my identity.  I was glad to welcome him in the door with LDFK with a small hint smell of weed from another room  He knew without a doubt then I was there to meet him for fun!  

It will pick back up.
Maddie

I can definitely understand where you’re coming from...

I, myself, am grateful for my regulars that are both local and not. I also travel when my day job isn’t keeping me busy.  

I’ve noticed the change, even on the boards though i don’t post a whole lot. Hopefully things get back to normal so i can attend something and meet some of you fabulous people!

I don’t know exactly what’s been going on, but it’s definitely slowed down. Every time I’d get a new review, I’d at least get 3 inquiries and 1 date. I went 8 days last month without an appt or even an inquiry. And, I’m the lowest I’ve ever been on the top 100 because of the new scoring benefiting me, so on paper I’m doing better. But, it’s not reflected in my traffic. I’m not requiring any additional screening than I was before the busts, except that I plan to decline outcalls to Dunwoody if I’m ever asked. I look exactly the same, apartment is still cute, I grandfather my clients, I still offer the same services. So, I’m not sure what’s up, but I definitely feel where you’re coming from. Maybe money is just tighter, spouses are more privy, and gents don’t want to see anyone new even if we are reviewed. Hope it picks up for you. February to May is usually really good to me, so I’m just going to try to not make any plans for the next few months.

Wow...

I use to tour Atlanta from '07-12. I even lived there. I left the business for 3 years and was looking forward to making Atlanta one of my stopping grounds again.  

Thanks for the update!

Not hibernating, just not playing in Atlanta. My experience over the last couple years has been that requests go unanswered, and appointments are too often last minute cancelled or NCNS. So other than a few regulars it's been other marketplaces for me. Good luck!

is keeping the hobbyists away.  

Just an observation. Average used to be $250 -300, now it is $350 to $450. I do get the point that most don't have an infall after the incident and have to pay for the hotel.

I’ve been apprehensive after everything that has happened and am slowly coming back. No doubt I hat played a part in the decline but I also noticed rates have gone up across the board also in the past year. In the rule of supply and demand if what Charlie is saying is true, wouldn’t prices be coming down?

Also Charlie I tried to contact you a few weeks ago to schedule something and never got a reply back

Something I've noticed from reading other boards is that there's currently a lot of interest in mining the non-pros over on one of the sugar baby sites. A lot of mongers are raving about paying low rates and getting multi-hour sessions. Quality seems to be hit and miss, though, and it requires a bit of time investment. Even so, I bet this influx of young ladies looking to make a quick buck has taken some business away from the professionals who frequent this board. There are clearly downsides and dangers in pursuing non-pros, but the reports I'm reading are mostly positive. Just a thought.

After some consideration and consulting with some whose opinion I value I want to apologize to Charlie. I meant no offense, no intention to patronize. I'm should have chosen my words better. Charlie please accept my apology.

 
xyz23

Yeah, as BJ and Anonymous mentioned, most everyone seems to have raised their rates this past year. It almost seems like there are more $500 girls than $300 girls now.

Back when $250 to $300 could get you a major hottie for an hour, I was active almost every week or every other week.  

Now that the average is close to $400 and $500, I have to take into account my savings, retirement funding, paying off bills... and is it really worth $500 for an hour and one pop, which is usually all I'm good for. And lately, that answer is more and more... no. I just can't justify it, and I don't think I'm alone. I hope some ladies will reconsider their rates and see if it might jump start their business.

Making this posting. I post to get people into active on the board and to get the opinions of people. I didn’t post to be ridiculed, antagonize, or just plainly bombarded with bullshit.
 Some say I need to update my website and my photos my new site and photos will be live this week.  
Honestly I really don’t think that matters but we’ll see how this new website drive traffic. Either way I plan to do more Touting and traveling versus being available in Atlanta.

I have noticed quite a shift

In how things have been in Atlanta and I am considering leaving as I've even noticed women aren't touring here anymore. Apparently Atlanta is dead, partially due to everyone still laying low after all the busts last year.  

I'll be migrating over to NY

to cook that goose.  Stew, fricassee, stuff and roast.
The hobby isn't dead its just evolving.  Guys had enough sloppiness I think.
Used to be a gal wanted to be accessible to her select clients.  I think respect
is just not there.

As Tevyah would say, "On the other hand, its the worlds oldest profession".

I don’t think anyone ridiculed you or I hope you don’t think I was ridiculing anyone. Another trend I have noticed is the number of backpage or similar girls being reviewed lately.

Isn't it obvious? People aren't stupid. No one wants to run the risk of getting pinched by Uncle LEO. Well, maybe except for Khori lol.

There is still so many nice ladies in Atlanta.  I had a thought....I know it hurt a little.  I have been trolling BP lately and there are so many nice girls on there recently.  Maybe it is up to us as gentleman hobbyists to Do more of TOFT so Rhea ladies are treated right and don’t feel that men are all scum bags.  I understand the LE risk too!!!

I live in Atlanta and, before last year, would hobby here as well.  Now, I hobby in other cities where it is safer, easier, and, ultimately, cheaper (e.g. DC and Dallas).  Also, I quit posting TER reviews of my activities long ago, and recent and not so recent events have proved that to be a wise move.  If I have an urgent need, like others have mentioned, I go to Follies.  

Just did a check of rates between these cities--and it seems we've caught up to them for the most part.  

I get that in these other places the cost of living is substantially higher, including hotels, restaurants, gas, parking, etc., but we're a *much* lower cost city than these are. We have dozens of ladies now in the $500+ price range, similar to what you would expect there. Several that used to be affordable are $700 to $1,200 an hour.

The problem is, if you want to see that lady once a week or so, you're looking at $24,000 to $62,000 a year. That's real money... from just one regular.

So you can visit your favorite provider once a week, or... you can buy a better house, get a high-end luxury car ($2000 a month x 60 months= $120,000), or save for retirement before you drop dead on the job.  

Unfortunately, if these prices keep going up, it's going to force me to retire or travel elsewhere. Charlotte seems to be a decent alternative. I'm all for someone making money, but lately, it seems like this is a hobby for CEO's, not regular guys with decent paying jobs. Maybe this is the turning point for this hobby in Atlanta.

Any ladies interested????????

Any ladies interested in a M&G to help with business??   I tried two but you ladies failed to reply or come.  I screen carefully.   Guys, are you ready to come again?  Will it help to get the "community" back together again.    

I hosted the "Toys for Tots" Christmas party again but the attendance was not what was expected and the toys were scarce.  

If M&G are not wanted anymore, it too shall pass.  If smaller private parties will be better, I'll try that IF YOU'LL want.

One that maybe would be held at lunchtime or early afternoon. I am not able to make an evening engagement. I was never able to attend any of the M&G’s that were sponsored by Jimmy or the former agencies.

It ebs and flows, over supply at the moment, probably pricing and timing issues. Time to get creative, specials, duos, bundle price packages etc.

I remember when there used to be good, clean, quality low to mid cost providers. Everything has moved to high end, 90 min minimums, $600-$1,000 per visit. Most bread and butter, blue collar clients cant afford and are being priced out of the hobby by high end providers.  

If I didnt make the money I do, no way I could hobby with quality providers at some of these prices, hoops and verification processes.

Good luck, get creative -- you will prevail and be successful!

Lets just say that this hobby is not one for everyone.  There are time constraints, financial constraints, professional constraints, etc.  I can't speak for everyone, but personally I have one provider I frequent and occasionally I branch out to "test the waters".  I'd love to have a few "go-to" favorites, but my time constraints and professional life make that difficult.  Typically I don't plan a rendezvous days in advance; rather, it's more like an itch that I want to scratch when it comes up.  Sure, I understand not every lady is going to sit around waiting for my beckoning call and I don't expect that either.  

The things I look for in a provider are a safe and clean outcall location (It is hard for me to host for a variety of reasons), that is a 30 min or less drive from where I am (north side of Atlanta), punctuality from the provider (I charge a lot for my time professionally, just like they do, and consideration/respect should be shown for that - I arrive on time and ready 99% of the time--unexpected traffic can happen in Atlanta, I get that--), and a service that matches the price.  Availability on the weekend is super important to me.  I get it, it's the weekend.  However,  when you work as much as I do during the week, there are literally not enough hours in the day to schedule an appointment for M-F.  To be able to afford dropping the kind of cash this hobby necessitates, the majority of your "ideal target" clientele will probably also be busy during the week.  (Personally, I arrive at work by 8:30AM and don't usually leave earlier than 7:00PM - why?  Because that is the prime time of when my clients require my services)  Be flexible.

The recent LEO aspect of things have made me far more selective, as a run in with Johnny would be detrimental to my professional career and livelihood.  "Knowing the law" and being aware of your surroundings will only take you so far.  
 I know the law pretty well, I still don't feel 100%, or even 90% comfortable, meeting someone for the first time.  This hobby, in it's very essence, is illegal.  No matter how much you want to try and mitigate every circumstance, you're still playing with fire every time you go out there.  Trying a new provider drastically increases the chances of having an unwanted meeting with Uncle Johnny.  This is not opinion...

I've found that frequently when I "test the waters", I always leave feeling like it was not worth it.  Whether it be the attitude, the amount of time I sat waiting past the scheduled appointment time for the provider to be ready, or the connection in general.  That is not to say that sometimes everything is great, but it just wasn't the "flavor" I was looking for, while it may be someone elses favorite flavor.  So I always end up back in the arms of the provider I've been seeing on a consistent basis for almost 2 years.  

Without trying to sound like an arrogant prick, because I'm really not, but if I made my clients wait for as long as I've waited for a lot of providers (this is not directed at anyone in particular as it is fairly common), I would not have clients.  Granted, I understand the world in my profession vs. the hobby are far different, these are just the things that I look for and my honest attempt at trying to make sense of OP's original inquiry.  When I'm paying top dollar I don't think it's unreasonable to expect top services, which includes all of what has been mentioned above.  The newer crop of ladies seem to have trouble understanding the value which should come to be expected of the $$$+ price point.  I can't blame them though, as long as people keep paying for shitty service, then shitty service is what you will get (this does not apply to everyone, of course).  All of the ladies that have been doing this over the years, they are the real gems.  Everything I've said above is what most of them already know and basically a tacit agreement that both parties have come to expect.

Hopefully this helps.  Hopefully I didn't ruffle any feathers.