Is anyone still in touch with these 2 providers. They both went UTR a couple years ago, but still saw established clients. I stayed in touch but my cell phone was just ruined and I didn't have their cell numbers backed up. If you would be willing to relay a message to either or both them, let me know here and I will PM you my contact info so THEY can contact ME if they want to. Both were based on the Triad. Thanks!