might be more flattering than the white lie. The real issues seem to be the cats and his BO. Tell him you have mild allergies to the cats and you liked him but would have to see him at a motel/hotel and he would have to take a cab. Also because of the cats and odors it would be really helpful if he took a long shower before you arrived.
The fact that you would be willing to see him again may be more motivating than you think. especially if he has the cats because of a life with daily major rejection. You are a kind person and this is another approach.
Ever told a white lie in the biz? I was with a older man and I just couldn't do anything but play. He was over over weight and I didn't mind that but just had a smell about him the house smelled so bad with the cats and he didn't use the air. All he wanted was to play (thank goodness) but when he asked if I would give a BJ I said I don't do that. Sh*t it was only the lenght of my thumb when hard.. I am not lieing. How could I do that. He wants to see me again but I just can't. He doesn't drive. So it will have to be at his house. He is a sweet guy and I try to give my best to everyone. I just was sick with cat smell. I hate telling a lie. I don't want him to know I lied so everyone please forgive me.. I do feel bad.
Just a case of YMMV for that older gentleman.
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Sometimes I feel it is better to tell a white lie instead of hurting someones feeling. (which I'm not good at) If you didn't enjoy his company, you don't HAVE to go back!
You have to handle this situation, the way YOU feel most comfortable with.
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Just kidding, I'm not the dude. LOL
Hey, but let that be a lesson to ya...white lies and national board posts don't mix.
cheers,
crank_yanker
Do you think you really should have posted it here?
It might just have defeated the purpose if he reads this.
Sometimes things might be best kept to ourselves.
I think if I were admitting to a white line I would use an alias. I started using them when I realized there were many guys who read the boards that I have seen. Nothing like putting your foot in your mouth and believe me, I did! Thats why I choose to use an alias. I feel that honestly isn't always the best policy-when its on a public board.IMO
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...if you had been able to perform in that circumstance. The white lie was your best way out here, but you're lucky he bought it, or told a white lie himself and pretended that he did.
If you see him again, it has got to be, at least, at a better venue. If he doesn't drive, he needs to take a cab.
I know he seemed sweet, but there is something patholigical here. I really don't understand this. Hosting a sweet, DDG woman should at least motivate a guy to clean up his house. It always has for me, even when I'm donating. It's more important when nothing about you physically is going to thrill her.
If he can't, I hate to say it, perhaps he should start out with providers more accustomed to performing in that kind of environment, the ones who should get combat pay, and move up to your class when he works out whatever his malfunction is.
/Zin
If I were the smelly cat owner, I would have preferred you simply say "sorry, I can't proceed with the session" instead of taking the donation and giving sub-par service. You could of said you were allergic to cats.
Obviously, the client probably would prefer it that way, but that would have been cutting him a multi-hundred dollar favor there.
You show up, on time, ready to work and do a good job, but for some reason, not your fault, conditions aren't right for you to do one. Have you ever said to your boss, "That's okay. I'll just take a cut in pay today and go home now." Is that the way you would work things?
Or you go to see a lawyer, but you end up gossipping instead of talking legal work, do you expect him or her not to bill you, in full?
He seemed to enjoy her time while she was there, and preferred having the company of a beautiful lady there rather than spending another hour alone. As they say (whether it's often true or not) the payment is for the time.
/Zin
So don't beat yourself up about it. As for repeat visits, just tell him you're allergic to cats. It's a common enough complaint to be easily believable.
Or how about this concept: tell him truth in the most tactful way you can.
I find it easier to deal with eccentric people like that by being candid from the start and not treating their obvious problems like the big elephant in the corner no one wants to talk about. Some people with cats don't realize that their house smells [I tried to date a really nice girl with the same problem]. I agree with the others who said you should've declined the date and offered him a checklist as to why--not excuses, just good reasons.
Who knows, maybe next time he would've gotten his act together.
I concur. I suppose there are some people that can't handle the truth but personally, I'd want to know the truth even if I were not given a second chance. The info might help me in the future with someone else.
might be more flattering than the white lie. The real issues seem to be the cats and his BO. Tell him you have mild allergies to the cats and you liked him but would have to see him at a motel/hotel and he would have to take a cab. Also because of the cats and odors it would be really helpful if he took a long shower before you arrived.
The fact that you would be willing to see him again may be more motivating than you think. especially if he has the cats because of a life with daily major rejection. You are a kind person and this is another approach.
Its hard to find sometimes but here's a great example. I don't know if eele girl speaks from experience but I admire her for wanting to do the right thing. I think that for all of us on either side of the appointment there will be people we meet that we just can't bring ourselves to fool around. IMHO if the girl can't bear to be bare with me then she should say it up front and leave. Conversely we should be upfront about it as well. I had such an incident and [I know this seems like an oxymoron considering the overall topic here] but I had real moral dilemna. I met a provider. I was very displeased with her looks demeanor etc... The problem was I had asked to come a long way, and even though she had sent me very old photos and I felt that I had been lied to I still was obligated to donate aas arranged. To me there is more to the discussion than how do I feel about someone - its also a matter of trying to do the right thing. Maybe the gent in the original post didn't act upset. But I doubt anyone of us would believe her if she said she doesn't give head AT ALL.
What surprises me the most about this thread is the guys all chiming in to say its okay. I wonder just how many of us are super studs that these women are just dying to be with? I find it hard to believe that she's the only provider ever turned off by any client. I'll bet any of us that have seen more than 5 girls are remembered by atleast one of them as a guy they really weren't crazy about. She actually commented on his dick size too. I wonder how many of us are hung like John Holmes? BEFORE THE FLAMES START I DO WANT TO CLARIFY: I AM NOT SAYING SHE SHOULD HAVE BLOWN HIM - I'm saying she knew when she walked in the door that she was grossed out. She knew he must have had some reason for wanting to pay her to visit. She should have refunded her fee or taken some portion of it for her inconvenience and left the house well before that "reason" ever popped up.
"Sh*t it was only the lenght of my thumb when hard.. I am not lieing."
Hmmm, does "size" matter to a provider? That's not good news for those hobbyists who may not quite reach epic proportions.
Why are good lies white? Huh? Huh?
Sounds like a cracker canard to me...
OK, get me off Anti Semitism and I DO have a little sense of humour...
BTW Winston Churchill (His dad WAS a hobbyist with a hot SO) said that in Parliament because you couldn't call an MP a liar- good one
made you look!