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Incall for me!
priyarainelle See my TER Reviews 370 reads
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When I was UTR, I guess I preferred Outcall because I was already wherever we were going to meet (I used to work the hotel circuit before I graduated college and started working full time)

I actually found Outcall to be far less discreet and a general pain from the start of being OTR. Going to someone's hotel room and hoping for the best is not my cup of tea. And some people want incall at their home which puts me even more on edge. Having to deal with DMV traffic, cab/Uber fees, and/or parking fees if I drive makes it even more a pain.  I dress well for every appointment, and always make sure my hair and makeup are done so I'm not about to catch the metro to an appointment.  

I love incall because I get to set everything up and I'm far more relaxed. I can tell the gentleman exactly what he needs to know at just the right time so he doesn't bring any undue attention. If I get a last minute cancel, I can usually just put my old work strategy to use.  

I have my full time and my own licensed/registered business  for hotel front desk chats, and my out of state license. There are many ladies who have tricks to circumvent larger hotel fees by using discount websites. Personally, I often book direct because I travel for my full time so often that I get upgraded almost everywhere I go and even if they don't have a good regular rate I can book direct at a lower rate with a multitude of things at my disposal. I don't usually have a lot of issues with housekeeping or turn down service giving me extra towels/etc. or coming in at the wrong time.  
 
I am low volume but most of my clients like longer dates so the loss is minimal. Even on the few times I book incall for a 1 hour client, I can manage a $1-200 loss on my room. But this is partially because I work full time so I understand it's different for others.

Shiksa7173 reads

I personally love outcall.  You visit the client, have the session, and go home.  Super easy.

Most of my clients want incall which is a pain.  You have to research a hotel, book it, and check in.  You have to have to look as "unprovider-ish" as possible and have a little story in mind about why you are visiting- in case the front desk clerk is friendly (or nosy.)  And mid-range hotels in my city are typically $300-$400/night, eating up a huge amount of my profit...  I hate incalls!

Obviously if you see local clients, you have to provide incall as they don't have their own hotel.  But if you're low volume, seeing only 1 or 2 clients a week, renting and furnishing a whole extra apartment soley to see clients is not economically feasible.

I don't know exactly what my question is, other than what is YOUR preferred way of meeting your clients/providers and why?  And how can I encourage outcalls, if at all possible?

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I prefer outcalls...I get to stay on my own turf, don't have to pay for anything other than transportation and don't have to deal with any third parties.  However outcalls are mostly limited to nighttime and clients are usually single or business travelers...  So I found it in my best interest to offer incall a couple of days a week.  I hate it and get paranoid and anxious about everything from checking in to housekeeping (because everyone wants those lunch hour appointments) but I bite the bullet as I make more money in less amount of time.  If you do outcalls only you limit yourself to at least half the potential clientele you could have.  If you are fine now I wouldn't worry about it but if you want more appointments I'd suggest doing an incall occasionally.  There isn't much room around this issue because if a client can't host he can't host.  You may get a few who will get a room but there aren't that many.

souls_harbor655 reads

Pretty much every provider I've seen adds $100 and up for outcall.    

Yeah I pass on those. I don't mind paying for, or even sending an Uber to and from my location, but to add a $100 too, Fuck that. I'll pass.  

Posted By: souls_harbor
Pretty much every provider I've seen adds $100 and up for outcall.    
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For all the reasons you listed, and the ones mentioned by Breanna. So much easier. However, if I ever "tour", I would do incall.  

I charge $150 extra (payable in advance) if someone would like me to provide a space for us to meet. I'm not against it-  I just don't prefer it.  

I once had access to a dear friend's incall space, and I remember that it seemed like such a hassle to clean up and leave it ready for her (change sheets, clean shower, wash dishes, etc.).  

Plus, my OCs in Tampa tend to be dinner dates and shorter ones where the gent will request to meet in the bar for a cocktail before making our way elsewhere. I really like that. :)

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...your post is verbatim of a lengthyyyy conversation a girlfriend and I had just today!

One thing we came up was perhaps going in with a couple of girlfriends to share the expense.
Being that my friends and I are mostly low-volume we doubt there will be much of a chance of our rendezvous conflicting.
It would just be a matter of communicating with each other.  

Although, then again, I noticed that most of the time I am asked for incall it is for within the next few short hours or Less.  Which wouldn't work for me as that is not my style.  I prefer to marinate my dates before I share myself.  For my comfort level as well as I enjoy the anticipation

 
As far as renting a room for the day.  Hmmm... Can't imagine myself just sitting there all day waiting for someone to contact me and request Incall. Heck, sometimes it takes over 24 hours just to verify as ladies aren't always available to respond back quickly.  

Damned if I do damned if I don't.  It's frustrating.

So I guess my answer to the original question would be.... Outcall Rocks!

Initially I enjoyed outcalls, but then I started encountering  
less than pristine accommodations at some personal homes,
as well as at high-end hotels; unchanged sheets, a lack of towels,
and sometimes lingering cigarette smoke, which is so unsavory to me.

Then there's the occasional outcall to a married Gent's home, which
instantly puts me in a "high-alert" state of mind, whereupon I cannot
fully relax.  {a Wife coming home unannounced from a trip is not just  
an occurrence in the movies!}

I decided to procure incalls, of which I control all aspects of the  
the experience for each guest;
Lightly fragranced clean sheets and towels, a spotless bathroom  
and shower, mood music, candles everywhere, and water, wine,  
iced tea, and a coffee-to-go for those headed to a long flight.

Should an engagement entail other accoutrements in-the-moment,
such as a guest may say "oh it's my Birthday today", then I can
just visit my fridge and break out the whipped cream & bday candles!

Upon my guests' departure, I can tidy up, take a long bath,  
relax, and carry on with my itinerary.

Angelina Jones 💋

Shiksa416 reads

And very expensive.

Often times I'll look at the donation amounts and notice that for her to do an outcall, the additional amount being requested is questionable.  Tacking on a significant amount per hour and also wanting travel costs too just doesn't make sense.  Now some cities, like Vegas, thrive on outcalls and this isn't an issue.  In other areas, this isn't the case.

If I'm at home, the other determining factor is whether I've met the lady previously.  Inviting a complete stranger into my home is just not a smart thing to do, even if she's well established.  I have had several ladies visit me once I've gotten to know them, those visits are usually extended visits (3+ hrs hours/overnight) when the confines of a hotel room are to limiting and they didn't request such a significant increase.  That was when I was living in an area that travel time wasn't significant.   My current location is a bit more off the beaten path, so I don't have this luxury and the cost is just to prohibitive.

Shiksa317 reads

I know what you mean about inviting a stranger into your home.  A lot of people do it though apparently.  I do let one client come to my home but he's been a client for years and I think it's ok to have one visitor.  I told my conceirge that he's my financial advisor (HAHA!)

then again, even immediate family members don't have full access. Some rooms are off limits to everyone. I also have to remove personal items from some rooms. I disliked having to answer questions about photos one saw, so those are permanently stored.

When I was UTR, I guess I preferred Outcall because I was already wherever we were going to meet (I used to work the hotel circuit before I graduated college and started working full time)

I actually found Outcall to be far less discreet and a general pain from the start of being OTR. Going to someone's hotel room and hoping for the best is not my cup of tea. And some people want incall at their home which puts me even more on edge. Having to deal with DMV traffic, cab/Uber fees, and/or parking fees if I drive makes it even more a pain.  I dress well for every appointment, and always make sure my hair and makeup are done so I'm not about to catch the metro to an appointment.  

I love incall because I get to set everything up and I'm far more relaxed. I can tell the gentleman exactly what he needs to know at just the right time so he doesn't bring any undue attention. If I get a last minute cancel, I can usually just put my old work strategy to use.  

I have my full time and my own licensed/registered business  for hotel front desk chats, and my out of state license. There are many ladies who have tricks to circumvent larger hotel fees by using discount websites. Personally, I often book direct because I travel for my full time so often that I get upgraded almost everywhere I go and even if they don't have a good regular rate I can book direct at a lower rate with a multitude of things at my disposal. I don't usually have a lot of issues with housekeeping or turn down service giving me extra towels/etc. or coming in at the wrong time.  
 
I am low volume but most of my clients like longer dates so the loss is minimal. Even on the few times I book incall for a 1 hour client, I can manage a $1-200 loss on my room. But this is partially because I work full time so I understand it's different for others.

LE is not likely to want to bust someone on unfamiliar territory.

But I can certainly see the logic in your post.  I see a few gals at their in-call.  One is a tantrika, so has a lot of things set up exactly as she wants, so outcall is not an option for her.  She's in an apartment building, but is very low volume, so no problems with neighbors.  Others have in-call apartments that they share with other gals.  Two gals I see out-call at motels which I procure as they live too far from me for them to journey out.

My preference is for a gal to come to my home.  I'm an outlier as I  
live alone, and don't have problems of nosy neighbors, etc.  I love to entertain and often cook for the gals I host.

Nothing like the home court advantage.  

sorry if i chimed in here, I recently experience my first outcall when I was on a business trip in vegas last month, and since vegas provider (touring or local), outcall seems to be a very popular choice.  I saw one provider that only cater to outcall appt (sorry i haven't wrote an review on her, but soon), i find it more appealing and better ideal situation if I were on a business trip given i'm not familiar the local area of vegas.  I did had an incall appt in vegas which put me in a very un-ease feeling because i'm not familiar with the local area.

What i'm trying to say is, while in NYC, i preferr incall appt from the provider, one because i'm familiar with the area, and 2 outcall appt always 99% of time there is an up-charge, given some of us hobbyist are have limited fund, and having provider come to our home for outcall just not an ideal.

Hope this give you ladies the my point of view of pro vs cons of outcall service.

JakeFromStateFarm413 reads

I am NOT going to rent a hotel room in order to see anyone.  And, unless I've seen you several times and trust you, I'm not inviting you to my house.
The only exception is in Las Vegas, where local girls only do outcall.  But even there, you can always see touring girls who have their own hotel rooms.
I can understand why some girls don't like incall, but it is the way 95% of this game works.

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For some reason the standard seems to be that outcall is more expensive than incall but truthfully it should be the opposite. So what I had to travel an hour to get to you? Not paying for a hotel is a huge benefit. Now if you have an apartment that you already pay for every month I understand why you might do the opposite but girls getting hotels should just flip the whole dynamic and charge more for incall. I was already thinking about only applying my next increase to incalls and this just basically confirmed it lol.

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100 to as much as 300 an hour more for an outcall.  Has never made sense to me.  I get charging me the cost of transportation to me, more than willing to reimburse some one for that.  But, If the 2 hour rate to see me at your place is 800 to 1000, why should I have to pay 200 to 600 more to see you on top of that.  I always pass and move on.

GaGambler565 reads

The higher the volume the more likely a provider is to prefer incall.

A girl who has one appointment a day or less is much more likely to prefer outcall to incall so she doesn't have to shoulder the expense of a hotel or apartment, A girl who sees several guys a day is going to prefer incall so she doesn't waste all her time traveling to and from appointments and has her own place to relax during down time, not to mention her own space to freshen up before sessions.

Traveling girls of course have their own built in locations since they are typically staying in a hotel anyhow, but traveling girls are also usually higher volume as well to cover the expenses of traveling, so we are right back to my original point.

The logic for charging more for outcall is that a provider may experience an opportunity cost. If she drives 30 minutes between each call, that starts adding up to a lot of lost potential earning. If she instead books a hotel room and offers incall, she can potentially squeeze in more appointments in a day and make more money even after paying for the room. This makes a lot of sense for a high-volume provider, but the math would be different for a low-volume provider.

This makes total sense. I am a low volume provider so I think with a low volume mindset lol. But for other girls like me charging more for outcall is stupid and actually charging more for incall makes more sense.

In some locations, Providers will hire a car and driver for transportation to and from an outcall. The driver's "job" is also to provide a degree of security and to wait for her to bring her home.  

With agencies that are exclusively outcall, the car+driver is standard and he or she gets a predetermined cut of the fee. (Although all the driver does is drive and wait, there are risks. The laws and penalties can be more severe for drivers than for Providers.)

Agreed!!!! I'm VERY low volume so outcalls are much more profitable for me.

But I reccently decided to do hotel incalls as well and it really is worth it in my opinion to have that extra option. To encourage outcalls, I charge 100 extra for incalls to cover the cost of the hotel room. I think that's reasonable considering hotels in nyc are expensive and I'm usually only seeing one client that night. So it doesn't make sense to use money from my own pocket for the hotel room costs.  

Plus once my client is gone I can just hangout there, order some food and have friends or my partner over for midnight snacking and gaming :D

I've found Expedia is great for overnight hotel bookings. And Dayuse is great for daytime appointments.

Shiksa488 reads

I hate it.  The hotels make a killing off of us.  I don't even stay the night.  I prefer to go home and sleep in my own bed.  Schlepping suitcases back and forth around town.  Grrr!

Shiksa and schlepping are two words that seem to be mutually exclusive.

LOL I do the same thing! I typically won't even book a room for only an hour. 90 min minimum for incalls unless I am seeing two one-hour clients that day (very very rare for me). And they would be booked hours apart so I can shower and get ready at my own pace. Point is, I prefer outcalls as well! ESPECIALLY for one hour appointments! LOL!

Because when bi host at my incall i set the mood,take a few hours taking my time to get ready and I'm dressed and looking perfect asvsoon as i let my client in. For outcalls i feel self conscience  that everyone in lobby knows😂😂 then i don't feel put together because im comming in from outside and its just not smooth at all. The usually dont have music,candles,etc and it just kills the vibe. I really dislike it.

Shiksa313 reads

What I used to do for outcall is wear casual clothes there (slacks and flats) and bring a bag with clothes to change into.  I either use the stairwell on the clients floor or the ice room to quickly change into a dress and heels so I dont have to walk thru the lobby looking too pretty ;)

But good point about the ambiance.  It isn't fun to have a session in a silent hotel room.

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Def good idea but even that's extremely stressful. And then it will be a bright cold silent room like ohhh lord...smh..  🤔😂

Posted By: Shiksa
What I used to do for outcall is wear casual clothes there (slacks and flats) and bring a bag with clothes to change into.  I either use the stairwell on the clients floor or the ice room to quickly change into a dress and heels so I dont have to walk thru the lobby looking too pretty ;)  
   
 But good point about the ambiance.  It isn't fun to have a session in a silent hotel room.

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Idk.. I just dress so that I look attractive but not slutty. I go straight to the elevator and to the room no problems.  At some of the higher end hotels  they have asked me at the front desk what room I was going into and called the client up  to make sure he had a visitor but I mean what exactly can they do?  What will they prove? Having an attractive woman come up to your room isn't exactly a crime lol.

...So if she cancels or pulls a NCNS at least I'm not screwed out of a hotel room cost.

LVBeauty444 reads

I provide a separate incall location just for my regular locals as well as the occasional out of towner that isn't traveling alone. I will admit that the cost some months is less rewarding so I plan on buying a condo as this will be an investment and not throwing money away renting.  Just a thought.

I prefer incall for a number of reasons. The biggest one is that I love walking in the door and seeing the provider with full makeup and dressed in the outfit I requested. There's no way she could walk through any lobby anywhere looking like that.

The second is rate. I've had three providers who are normally incall switch to outcall. A couple of them requested to do outcall just hours before our date. That meant that I had to book an extra night at my hotel, and the girls didn't change their rates.

Sometimes outcall is a way to boost rates without very visibly boosting rates.

HofFer419 reads

I used to prefer incall but now I'm thinking outcall is the way to go. I never (my mistake, I guess) used to think about it much but I guess men going in and out of apartments several times a day at all hours would raise the suspicion of landlords and neighbors. And that may get LE involved. Really scary to think they had cameras in the parking decks and inside of apartments.  
I guess incall hotels are safer as long as you use different hotels.

My incall and outcall rate is exactly the same.

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Incall is actually way more easier as you have everything you need at your own incall location the client I would say is much more comfortable in a setting such as that and even I am much more comfortable. As far as outcall those can be just as nice as you usually have to pack a small bag with everything you need and then get to the location. On my preference I love incalls over outcalls. But it is what ever works for the client and his taste on what he is most comfortable doing.

..I am not sure if I can depend on someone enough to have respect for my time and space. With outcall, at least you can run out the door when things go south.

I prefer outcalls to incalls, but I get many more requests for incall. When I tour and do incalls at hotels, most gentlemen want to meet between 10 am and 3 pm, when housekeeping is milling around in the halls. Sometimes I get worried that they know what I'm up to, even though I'm low volume.

A problem I have encountered with incalls is that sometimes gentlemen will cancel without much notice or do a NCNS. Then I lose money on the hotel room. I don't like booking rooms at the last minute because I like to get there at least a couple hours before I meet someone so that I have time to relax and set up the room the way I like it.

Also, for guys who try to overstay their time, it's much easier to leave an outcall than to try to kick someone out of your incall after their time is past up. Most men I have seen are very respectful of the time and leave on their own when the allotted time is up, but I've had a few overstay, and it's awkward to hint that they need to either leave or pay for extra time.

I am an outcall only provider I am located in Vegas where I see alot of traveling businessmen and vacationers.  
I think it depends on what city you are located in some cities are incall over outcall and vice versa.
Majority of the time guys already have a hotel room and I very rarely get someone asking for Incall.
I have offered Incall in the past on a few rare occasions but I prefer outcall I don't have to worry about booking hotel rooms for incalls and hope the guy shows up.And depending on what city you are in like you mentioned hotel rooms can be very expensive.The locals I see I still do outcall to their home or if they get a hotel room for the day or weekend.

I would never allow anyone into my home. Apart from a spontaneous Staycation, I do outcall only here.  Usually in Vegas the only clients who want incall are locals. Haven't had the best experiences with locals so if a local wants to see me they have to get a room. Do they usually want to? No, of course not, but that is ok I don't like the headache that comes with having the room. plenty of fish in this sea that they can swim to. . For me also I feel much safer going to an outcall than I would incall.  

I would not listen to anyone telling you "this won't work" whatever it is. Incall/outcall you choose, but their will always be a way to market yourself to still get clients. Will you be alot busier with incall?probably but choose what is best for you and don't let someone tell you can't make money if you don't have this or do this.

When I visit Los Angeles I only stay in hotels and the costs are exorbitant. I have a busy regular life and am not the type to sit and wait around either so usually book last minute too.  
I prefer outcall in Los Angeles and places like NYC and London.
Some girls share apartments because of this.

I prefer her to come to me, have fun, and then go to bed when she leaves.

I would think there would be more providers who prefer outcall, as they don't need to invest in a hotel room. Either they drive to and fro or the catch an Uber.  

But alas, a lot of ladies prefer in all for their own reasons.

..i dont mind having providers come to me...but i ALWAYS go to them first time...i never have someone i havent met to my house...on the road its different--even on the road i want to go to them first...

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Go to dayuse.com and get a hotel from 9a-5p for like $100 or less and then add $100 to your incall donation.

I have mixed feelings on both. I try to explain.  

Incall to me is good because I can set up the atmosphere as I usually do, with candles, wine, maybe a bubble bath or a cheese plate and be in lingerie etc.... lately I have been having a hard time allowing new clients in my incall which is a very nice upscale condo, because I don't know them, very simple. In that case I would prefer going to their location. I only go to luxury hotels or house never a bad area or motel.  

The setback with outcalls is that many local clients are married and can't host, in fact I have had a regular for 3 years that when I didn't have my place couldnt see me because he couldnt host. That was a lot of opportunities lost for both of us to spend time with each other.  
When I travel I definitely have an incall though, but locally, if I didn't have my place available I would not pay high prices for hotels. I have done it in the past and had clients cancel and lost $ on hotel rooms. So back then i used to advertise as outcall only. I don't know if in other cities is busy for outcalls, but where I am the outcalls are not many so I lost many clients because I couldnt provide a location.

I prefer in-call. I have found that getting a long-term ( as in two weeks or more) furnished vacation rental is perfect when I travel. I can set things up the way I like, bring my dog for company. VRBO.com is a great site for this.

Briefly, my thoughts:
1) If I have never met the lady, unless I am on vacation somewhere, I will never have her come to me.
2) If I have seen her multiple times and I have a high level of comfort with her judgment and demeanor, then I might request her to come to me (very rare -- and that means that I like you and trust you).  Also, probably a longer stay.
3) I would think that providers would feel much more safe doing an incall at established (4 or 5 star) hotels than doing an outcall (unless they have seen the client before).  
4) I would think that certain locations would lend themselves to outcalls better than incalls and vice versa (e.g., Las Vegas would be a great city for outcalls).

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