or would you cover her cost of living as long as she didn't whore herself out
if you had a daughter, would you let her be a hooker?
or would you cover her cost of living as long as she didn't whore herself out
One of my favorites Ms Leana Lane.
That woman has her shit together!
I have three daughters.
And no, they all know they are on their own after high school 
(not entirely but they do need to work hard - my oldest makes more money than me - she also spends more ha!)
Yes, I'd take care of my kids anytime and anywhere as long as I am able and no matter their age, if there is need.
In the same vein, my support for my kids is based upon love, not judgment and it is unequivocal. A parent has to let go, and offer support and encouragement, even when the kids choose a different path in life.
Would I encourage it? No. Otherwise, see above.
I presume you weren't looking for straight answers, though.
well, all answers are welcome.
I wanted to see if there's a double standard.
I presume you weren't looking for straight answers, though.
How do you "let" your adult child do anything. If she is old enough to be a hooker, she is old enough to make up her own damned mind about what she is going to do with her life.
Your only choice is whether to support her or condemn her for her own life choices.
and of course there is a double standard where it comes to girls. Dads especially want their sons to go out and fuck everything in sight, partially to prove "he's a chip off the old block" Where it comes to their daughters they don't want her even looking at a man until she's fifty. That's just the way things are and always have been. You don't have to be "good with" your daughter becoming a hooker, getting married, moving away to college, but if you want to keep her in your life, you better find a way to deal with these things.
..despite what mommy or daddy has mandated.
And I have never tried to run or control their lives. Whatever SHE decided to do, I would merely discuss it make sure she has thought it through and understands the pluses and minuses. At the end of the day, if she still wanted to be a hooker, I would tell her I expect her to give it 100% and be the best damn hooker on the planet.
It implies that I have authority that I don't. That somehow I can control an adult's choices and the outcomes. That way lies codependency and madness.
There are all sorts of ways for people to make their way. All sorts of choices. Would I give my daughter money to support a heroin habit? Even if she threatened to bareback twenty guys at a time if I didn't give her money? How about if she just wanted designer shoes. The sane answer to all of those questions is NO.
If my daughter decided to take up the life of a femme de joie- I would still love her and welcome her home when she decided to drop by. And hope like hell she stayed safe and only saw customers like me... But I am not going to unconditionally financially support a healthy adult. Good way to make an unhealthy adult.
or would you cover her cost of living as long as she didn't whore herself out
We don't own our kids.
A parent's love has to nurture and educate. Those would be the guidelines I'd use if it became an issue.
She's pretty cute. About late 20's. She lives near me. I may try getting with her.
So...she's your cousin then too...what the fuck is wrong with you?
but I'll answer cause I've thought of this a few times. I think I'd be ok with my daughter (if I wanted one) being a sugar baby but not being an escort and doing this full time. If she were an escort, I'd be worried for her safety all the time, whereas if she has one or two regular sugar daddies, she's not constantly meeting different men and there's such a low risk of going to jail.
You can't really use covering her living costs as a reasonable negotiation for not whoring herself out. Whoring is so lucrative. On a decent whoring month, I get over 10k. You can't compare that to just covering rent costs
Your income would average out to $120,000 per year which seems minimal for NYC. Whoring is definitely a choice though I would not want my Daughter being a whore and I would not support her in that decision.
My children and grandchildren always have my love and a safe place. I would not encourage them in this life but how could I mistreat them because of it?
Or would you support her so she doesn't have to do this demeaning or dangerous work? Just wondering....
I was in the military so I have no qualms with it at all...I was thinking of my parent's response to me joining and all the sexual assault/harassment that happens to women in the military.
Yikes, not sure the military should be lumped in there. If everybody thought like that we would be very unsafe.
I was thinking of seemingly degrading or dangerous jobs and remembered how my mom feared for my life when I joined not to mention all the sexual assault going against women going on in the military...thats why I lumped it in.
Dear Ms. Breeze,
Although I assume your happy and your in a vocation where you aim to please, what were the primary conundrums that your parents might of had during the course of your process of occupation selection? Considering you where in the military during a time when it was not professionally or socially welcoming for women, I am sure that you developed instincts for coping with aggressive and professionally antithetical officers. This was a great feat considering that there where very few mechanisms for women who were in the service. Also you cerebrally picked your spots considering what you MOS was, and for the most part you tried not to rock the boat. Furthermore, it gave you an idea of what you wanted to do and what you didn't want to do, and from that you knew that you needed autonomy and a certain decorum to exist while in pursuit of your living.
However when it comes to being a parent you have some reservations about certain occupations. Also you are thinking about gender and matching occupations that you would think a young woman would usually be interested in or would capture her imagination. Then after that you consider the culture that she would be exposed to and will she be accepted on the merits of her work. These are all critical items that a parent would take into account when a child gravitates towards a certain profession and his or her station in life. Also life is cyclical, that is one of the reasons that members of the board and those who are directly involved in the demimonde ask that question. Also the answers are ones that are informed because providers know all that would transpire during the course of the time that one would be a provider.
Just asking...You must have made observations based on my Twitter and/or posts.
Honestly I've been pushed towards a University degree from a young age. I made the right grades, got the right scores, did all the right extracurricular activities and got into the University of my choice with mostly scholarships/grants paying for it. So as you can imagine my parents weren't too happy when I dropped out and joined the USMC. Pretty much anything that would be considered below a college education would have disappointed my parents.
I didn't join so long ago...it was about 9 years ago to be exact. Female Marines are frequently sexually harrased and there was nasty rumors going around about most of us. We were told upon checking in to our unit to "not get knocked up like all the other stupid sluts" and had to hear male superiors say our only duty should be making them "sammiches". I'm sure you've heard about the female Marine photo scandal...I'm so glad I got out before that FB group was created. Things aren't any better with women in the military. A female relative of mine lost her virginity through rape and the asshole hung a pair of panties on her door knob the day after. This was two years ago and she was discharged for mental health reasons after only being in a year after developing PTSD. Based on all of this I would almost rather my daughter be a mid to high end provider than go into the military. I think she would certainly be treated better by the men in her life.
Parents could wish all sorts of things for their children but when children grow up they have a mind and will of their own. There isn't much you can do about. I do believe your worries about life being cyclical are a legitimate concern especially if you expose your children to the demimonde (love the use of that term!). The father of the famous Dr. Brooke Magnanti was afraid she dabled into sex work because she met some of the providers he would help. Being exposed to that reality doesn't make it seem as forbidden as it otherwise would be.
I've flipped burgers, I've cleaned toilets and I've been in the military and I am not a bit ashamed of having done any of those things for a living when I was young.
Just what the fuck is wrong with hard work in less than glamourous fields while you are "paying your dues" in life? I did it and quite frankly I am proud of it.
Sierra, this is a general response and not necessarily directed at your post. I had to put it "somewhere" lol
But the jobs I mentioned are stereotypically "demeaning" or "dangerous" both of which are used to describe this profession.
When they turned 18 they would be adults, and then they make their own decisions.
You can't "let" an adult be anything, it's just simply not your choice to make.
If I did have an adult daughter, and she told me she wanted to enter into this world, first I'd be honored and proud that she trusts me and is comfortable with me to tell me something so personal. Second, because of her honesty, I'd tell her of my involvement and stress that because she is so important to me that I want to share some safe practices and most of all to trust her instincts and not let the dollar drive her every decision. And of course, if she is ever confronted by LE, to exercise her right to remain silent, call me so I can bail her out and get her a lawyer, who's fees would of course be paid fully by her.
I've not been busted, nor been rolled, and that's possibly because I do my due diligence and trust my instincts. I'd want to at least share with her my booking and etiquacy so that she is as informed as possible.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what we do, in my mind anyway, and so if this life is her choice, then I'd support her fully.
Another Bourbon please.
but at the end of the day I have no control over what a future child of mine does.
Mind as well teach her how to do things right safely. I wouldn't aim my kid at doing this and I sure hope my kid would be a smart one. Having smarts (and other things) would matter greatly in this, or in the RW.
I would make her ass think and if she is still going to, then help her out. I wouldn't just volunteer for her to do this. I normally wouldn't even tell her what I do but being as my family already knows, I am sure someone will mention it at some point.
Nothing wrong with SW but the vast majority can't handle it and few stick around for years or longer. If you can't compartmentalize and maintain boundaries... stick to your rules etc, you will flop on your face and most don't recover from that. Seems some don't know how to be happy doing this.
I am not above paying my kid's way (or my niece) but they do have to learn to take care of self within a minimum amount of reason. My parents handed everything to me. I am lucky I work hard and am grateful vs spoiled and lazy.
or would you cover her cost of living as long as she didn't whore herself out
I can give her lots of good advice, as long as she doesn't tell mom it came from dad.
I would make efforts to prevent my daughter (I actually have no children) from any form of lifestyle that was forced upon her by other people. Otherwise it would most likely be don't ask, don't tell.
Is that all women do this because they have no other options or don't have enough money otherwise but that's not always the truth. Therefore paying for everything to keep your daughter out of this might not work. I know several women who are business owners who do this on the side. I for one have a career outside of the hobby which I am quite happy with. TBH I was already involved in the whole swinger/sex party lifestyle before I started so I would be fucking around one way or another. I can honestly say no one giving me money would have kept me away from this because money isn't the only reason I do it. So honestly there's no real way to stop your daughter from doing it. She could become a successful woman who does everything the "right" way and still choose this path.
I for one don't care if my daughter chose this, as long as she was doing it because she's just a freak and loves to have a good time like her mom lol. I just never want her to be forced to do things because she feels she has no choice.
Just the thougt sends a chill through my spine!
Absolutely NOT under aNy aNy ANY circumstances would I ever ever EVER allow it in anyway shape or form. Even if she was a dancer I would be one of those moms ripping her off the stage and dragging her out.
...And yes I will do anything and everything in my power to make sure this life never touched hers...including financial support if needed. Shit I might promise to buy her a house in trade for a guarantee that she would not.
I know that is very hypocritical of me....but I don't care in the least ..i've been called worse.
It's not that I think badly of the hobby. I think a woman has to have the right mindset to be able to be in this industry which takes years of sometimes hard lessons … It's the journey to having that right mindset that I would never want her to have to experience.
Just my opinion...of course spoken from a mothers love.
I'm sure I will get a lot of boo's... But I am willing to except that.
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The only "right mindset" that a girl needs
is to KNOW in her heart
that she is VALUABLE enough to enjoy only the best life has to offer.
I have witnessed more Bad Outcomes
by observing girls in relationships
and married women.
It can be way worse than Hookerdom.
Allow your girl the FREEDOM to choose what she
feels is the highest and best use of her Vagina.
It's delusional to believe one can CONTROL a person's spirit.
Society,
I got news for ya,
I was BORN a HOOKER.
NOTHING you can do or say will have me live the life YOU want me to live.
And, Oh My, how you have tried.
Society,
the girls are getting more powerful every day.
Society,
you are losing more and more CONTROL every day that you prove to us that you can't even run your own life,
let alone ours. It's time for you to step aside and allow the girl to manage the vagina as she sees fit.
Society,
The girls are taking back their birthright, of owning their Bodies,
and
owning their Pleasure.
Because I'm a greying 53/yo white male, Society thinks I'm conservative, it thinks I'm racist, it thinks I'm Christian, it thinks I should have to settle for a member of the OTHFB club.
Well I'm partially conservative and partially liberal, Libertarian. I'm not racist, I should qualify that statement by saying that I've never met a Martian that I like. I'm staunchly Atheist. And, I'll never settle again.
So I say to Society, Fuck off and leave me be.
My Vagina is going to get put to use, one way or another.
You can pay to keep me in your prison
or
You can support Society in keeping me in their prison,,,,
and all because you have been programmed to believe SEX is a nasty dirty deed that needs to be CONTROLLED.
as far as SEX goes...
-You can't CONTROL the Dick,
so, it's easier to CONTROL the Vagina
by convincing women they are nasty for having pleasure.
*Hurry though,
the young ones coming up are not buying this old belief system.!
Is there a future where consenting where all our material needs are met, people all have equal rights, and consenting adults can get together for sex and fun whenever they want?
that's what I believe will end this whole topic.
No one will need "Permission" to enjoy their birthright of ORGASMS.
ALL people empowered to enjoy their natural organic pure pleasure with NoGuilt and NoShame.
ALL people Responsible for their lives and their health, including their genitals and their ORGASMS. -----
"where all our material needs are met, people all have equal rights, and consenting adults can get together for sex and fun whenever they want"
I have literally worked my ass off so that my daughter takes a different path in life. It may be ok for me but certainly not her. You always want better for your children. Also said from a mothers love. Absolutely NOT,
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I would, however, bail them out of jail if they got caught. If they had an exploitative pimp, he would be sleeping with the fishes.
Adults do what they want, and I can't control that. I'd be more disappointed if they grew up to be a person that repossesses houses, turns down health insurance claims, works on the board of a company that pays shit wages to its employees, or a religious socially conservative politician. I would wonder where I went wrong as a parent.
Being an unashamed provider that operates safely and has not been mistreated in the 3 years I've been doing this, I may have a different perspective. I felt more exploited when I was making $8-12/hr as a security guard for 11 years for a boss that treated his female guards as mentally inferior. It's demeaning to work 60 hours a week and still have to choose between loading my Breezepass to get to work or getting the lights shut off or feeding my children. That is debasement.
I'm confused at all these posts saying "no i wouldn't" as if you can control the actions of grown woman. Seems a better question would be, how would you feel if/when she does? I would personally support my kid in any desiscion. Being a hoe is not a job without flaws/difficulties special to this industry but theres potentially damaging/stressful things about every line of work so I don't feel its a huge concern.
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I am the father of four very independent women. I have always supported each one of them, but LET them?
or would you cover her cost of living as long as she didn't whore herself out
She knows about TER, P411, and so on. If she decided she was going to "follow in my footsteps," so to speak, I would arrange to have my ATF mentor her so she didn't make any stupid mistakes.
On her Regional Board, a guy was looking for a mother-daughter 3-some. The mother said "no, no fuckiny chance" that she'll do 3-some w/her daughter
And I wouldn't do a 3-some with my son and a Provider! And, I wouldn't do a 4-some with my 2 sons and a Provider!!
I'm all for family, but, NOT at ALL times! LOL