This is probably better asked on the providers board but I would like male and female replies.
If a client books 1 hour, I would hope that he really intends to stay 1 hour. But I think (some) may book 1 with full intention of staying for 2 or as long as he can get away with.
If he stays for 2 and leaves a 1 hour donation, then I feel taken advantage of and shorted.
What should the provider do if after an hour, the sesssion is still going strong, he's napping, or seems to definitely want a second round? How do you gracefully either ask for an additional donation, or get him to leave without him feeling "rushed"? A good provider makes him feel like "I don't want him to leave" but if he only pays for an hour... I DO want him to leave. Help?
"Here's your hat; what's your hurry?"
But seriously, clients who pull that crap give clients a bad name. Don't put up with it.
First, develop time awareness. One trick is to have some music playing that you are very familiar with, so that you know what time it is by what part of the music is playing. As the final minutes approach, start dropping hints about how he ought to think about showering, etc. Most times that is enough. For tougher customers, you can start dropping hints about how your boyfriend is due to stop by soon, or if you really want to make a name for yourself, you can say your parole officer should be headed over soon. I don't think he'll be back though. 8o)
You need obviously to know how time is running and how you want the session to go - does 60 minutes mean out the door in 60 minutes, in which case you want him in the shower at the 50 minute mark, or getting in the shower at the 60 minute mark? It's your judgement call, no right or wrong answer, but once you make up your mind stick to it.
Explaining that you are meeting friends let's you make it very clear that you have a 'hard stop' but doesn't sound pushy, mean or untrue.
Best of luck!
Do providers usually start to say goodbyes around 50 min? 1 hour? 1:15?
I am new at this. Used to do 2 hour minimum but someone told me I need to offer 1 hour and my first one hour client stayed 2 and totally shorted me.
So I can agree with you one this so why don't you as a first time meeting on your site say as I just did first time clients 90 min is best to have the full time and not feel rushed in a session and get to know one another. I just added that to my site and it is working out rather nicely. Just a suggestion.
For example, if clean up/shower is planned, allow time for that. If nothing is mentioned about that, work it into the convo, eg "Would you like to take a shower before you leave?"
On a first visit, allow plenty of time, at least 10 minutes if no shower, more if a shower is planned. Once you get to know the client, you'll have a better idea how long to allow for departure.
And btw, you can get a good sense for how considerate a client is if he/she takes responsibility for helping keep track of time to ensure they don't overstay--unless you let them know you're ok with it.
I agree with what you said about them helping to keep track of time. I hire a photographer periodically and she charges for her time too. So if I book a 1 hour photo shoot, I anticipate only getting in a few looks/styles. At 20 min left, I know the shoot is about over and know I don't have time to change outfits again. I like her and want to keep shooting with her, so the last thing I would do is try to milk extra time without compensating her.
You let him stay though. You have the power and control my dear. Learn to speak up and communicate. If you can't articulate your words,you shouldn't be in this business or even having sex for that matter. He paid for an hour so he stays for an hour. As time approaches and doesn't look like he is moving...just politely say hey "I have to get to my next engagement "or "would you like to paybfor another hour?" If you wanna be blunt. Generally a guy will wind down the time,get tired,hand me my stuff..but be aware. Don't leave it up to them. At 50 minutes start finishing up. I've only had one guy who pulled this shit on me and he is now on my dns list. I don't like to be taken advantage of and neither should you. Don't put up with this shit. IF A GUY REALLY LIKES YOU HE ISN'T GOING TO TRY AND GET YOU TO GO OVER FOR FREE.
I find massage places typically hustle you out faster, and have the clocks set like 15 minutes ahead. An hour session means 45 minutes max to a lot of them. Not all; there are GFE-type massage providers.
Independent providers are all different, and some are different on different visits. But unless I haven't finished up to the line, or we get lost in conversation, usually their hour session is about 50 minutes. If they have a shower they're pushing me to get in at the 50-minute mark.
So sorry to hear that! I've only ever had a couple of guys that really wanted to stay longer and were having a great time so before we went for round 2 I said something like "are you comfortable giving me the donation for an extra half hour?" he said sure, handed it to me and we went at it for another 30 mins. To the men that expect me to stay longer 'just because' I stay for the amount of time I was compensated for and that's that. Sometimes a few mins longer if I'm enjoying myself, but theres no reason to stay past that.
To keep track of time, I slyly check the clock once I start to feel like it's been atleast past half the hour. Then I quickly check about every 10 or 15 mins til it's about 5 minutes before our session is over. And ask if they want to shower/if I can shower. That's my way of hinting.
To be honest, most are aware of the time and once they've have their pop or 2 and a bit of cuddling, they're ready to have time to themselves again.
I thought you were going to ask about managing clients within the hour, and what to do if they're on their second pop right up to the line, for instance. But preventing from staying an whole extra hour shouldn't be too hard. That's a long time, and guys know about when they're supposed to go, even if they don't act like it.
The most I've gone over in the absence of very clear signs from the lady that she wants me to stay (for instance, never stopping the postcoital chit-chat, talking about how lonely she is in her hotel room, etc.) is like 15 minutes. You can play it easy within that timeframe, but after that I don't think it's rude to simply put your foot down. You probably won't lose too many clients by saying "Time's up, honey," or something like that. I don't know how to phrase it exactly.
Point is, clients know the score. They're definitely taking advantage of you if you let them stay an extra hour without obviously inviting them to do so. An hour is a long, long time.
As a client, how would you handle it, or what would you want the provider to do? Like if your session is going over but maybe not quite enough to ask for 2 hours donation. Should she just let it go? I mean, she may be enjoying herself too...
I know I'm asking a lot of questions but im sure this situation will come up.
We're kind of stuck when that happens. Say he's still going at 1:15 (some guys, particularly older gents, take a while to come), or he initiates a push for Pop #2 at the :55 mark. You can always ask him if he'd like to extend his time. But, it's a mood killer/boner killer for sure, and you risk getting labeled a "clockwatcher." Definitely one of the downsides of reviews...
Option 1: You can stand your ground and ask him if he'd like to extend to 2 hours? Or if not, then how about a shower? Option 2: You can do whatever you feel like you need to in order to avoid a bad review, and NEVER see the guy again afterward.
I personally do option #2. If my schedule allows for it, I try my hardest to make him happy (within limits, I'll only go so far). If it's 40 minutes past and we're not getting anywhere, I'll excuse myself to the bathroom, then come back w/a robe on. Then ask him if he'd like a shower, etc. If he wants to play more, and does NOT mention 'extending the date', I'll tell him that unfortunately I have a class/obligation and my schedule won't allow for it. (You could also ask him if he'd like to "extend" and make it clear that if he doesn't, playtime is over. Again, you run the risk of being labeled a "clockwatcher." But of course, you're well within your rights to do that.)
If he's a gentleman, he will say "Hey, if you can accommodate me, I'd really love to extend for one more hour. " Or at least, 'Hey I see that we're over time... is that OK with you? I'd only planned for 1 hour and don't want to take advantage."
If it was truly unintentional, I'd expect a VERY nice tip for going way over time (particularly if he was able to finish). Or at the very least a much longer repeat date.
*Most* of the guys who do this are completely aware that they're taking advantage of your time. They realize that, as a provider, you feel put on the spot... they're counting on that. Some of these guys who take a while, book 1 hour, knowing that the provider will feel a sense of obligation to try to send them away happy. These are NOT respectful clients, and hopefully your screening will weed them out ahead of time.
Happened recently with me, too, even though I've been in the business since 2008. (I saw the signs pre-date, but felt stuck because I'd accepted a deposit and pre-paid a non-refundable hotel room. So guys... that's a downside of deposits for US! LOL)
I'm a one round kinda guy. Since I like to shower afterwards, if I haven't finished as we approach the 50-minute mark, and I happen to notice the clock (sometimes I don't), I'll take over. Usually I can finish myself within a couple minutes. However, I'm not always paying close attention, and a few times I've ended up going 10 or 15 minutes over. More often, I'll have time to spare.
I don't know how providers deal with other clients. I'd probably have a rule, like no second tries after 45-50 minutes, or something. I'd also set a rule for when you cut him off. That could be at the hour mark, 10, 15. 20 minutes over, or whatever you choose. Then the old hook comes out, and it's closing time.
Twice I had the ladies pull the hook out on me. My first two providers, in fact. It took me a little bit to get used to finishing with a lady I just met an hour ago. The first one cut me off within the hour. That was a massage provider, and she had the unwritten 45-minute rule. The second let me go over, I'm not sure how long. I wasn't watching the clock. But it wasn't anything ridiculous . 10 minutes maybe. There were no hard feelings.
if you know it takes awhile to finish with a lady you just met an hour ago then book a longer time slot. it seem like you know you tend to go over by 10-15 minutes and you think that's ok... it's NOT you're taking advantage of these providers and it's wrong. you wouldn't want them cutting you off after 45 minutes and we don't want you staying over your time.
I don't know how providers deal with other clients. I'd probably have a rule, like no second tries after 45-50 minutes, or something. I'd also set a rule for when you cut him off. That could be at the hour mark, 10, 15. 20 minutes over, or whatever you choose. Then the old hook comes out, and it's closing time.
Twice I had the ladies pull the hook out on me. My first two providers, in fact. It took me a little bit to get used to finishing with a lady I just met an hour ago. The first one cut me off within the hour. That was a massage provider, and she had the unwritten 45-minute rule. The second let me go over, I'm not sure how long. I wasn't watching the clock. But it wasn't anything ridiculous . 10 minutes maybe. There were no hard feelings.
An exploding dildo in the guys ass with a timer on it. Few, if any, will fail to leave on time.
"Thank you for coming." Then I give her a passionate kiss, reiterate my love for her, and slip out the door, leaving her with a big smile on her face.
And being gracious, smiling, can definitely help with the overall vibe and the feeling your caller has when he leaves.
Personally, I like to use humor to cushion any such "time to extend or move on" statements.
Having a playlist of approximately 55min definitely helps. When it stops.... I can then make a joke about it, or with experienced clients I can simply say..... "uh-oh, the music stopped! You know what that means......" with a wink and a smile.
I used to have a playlist with the last song "Closing Time" which typically got the point across without my having to say a word. 
Now, if you get the feeling he's well aware he's over his time and is still playing the lingering-lover routine, that's when you have to ad-lib it based upon your instincts about him.
Here's a few of my fave lines, "Oh mygosh, I can't believe it's so late already! I'm so sorry; although I'd love to extend our time to 90min or 2 hours, I have other things going on right now and can't do it......" and then start tidying up the room, put on a robe, etc etc.
Or, "I hate to bring it up, and I'm loathe to admit it, but I can't recall if you mentioned in your appointment request whether you might be extending our time together so......." and just leave the question dangling. 
OR "I guess it's really true that time flies when you're having fun..... (be very smiley here!) but it's also true that TIME is...... y'know" laugh, laugh, smile smile..... "and unfortunately I don't have an ATM in my room so......" and again, the ball is now in HIS court.
I've got more, so please feel free to PM or email me if you'd like.
It's really amazing the amount of balls it takes to be a successful provider. If we don't, or if we're pushovers, we will absolutely get taken advantage of!
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Why would a client be napping during a 1 hour session? and the line "Would you like to extend your date?" typically works for me. If they book an hour the the envelope will be for the 1 hour rate (always count your envelope before you start the date! Once you know what he paid you for go with that amount of time). why would they stay an extra hour and you think the extra rate is already inside, if they don't add to the envelope it's not going to magically appear.
Guys, if you want to extend please ask instead of assuming, we may have another client we need to get ready for, a traditional job to go to, friends to see, sleep to get or the time allowed for you may be all we want to give you. NEVER assume.
and when you ask to extend please know the rate and be ready to provide it at that time or soon after you've asked, we require rates to be given before the date starts fr that reason.
As a client I hate hearing things like this. It gives the rest of us a bad name. No matter how good a time I am having I am always alert to the time and what time I should gather my belongings and leave. One disclaimer you could put out at nauseum is something stating that if a client would like to extend his time then he should make sure the proper donation is include. Sure you could try the old yawn yawn I have an early flight to catch routine or if the guy doesn't take hints well you could ask if he would like to take a shower before he leaves. If none of those seem to work just flat out say your time is up, please leave.
At the 5 or 10 minute mark, ask if he would like to take another shower before he leaves. If he still doesn't get the hint, put a robe on and start tidying up and let him know you have to prepare for your next date/lunch with the girls/krav maga class. (That last one should really get his attention).
Just get up and start getting dressed....that usually gives him a strong signal
At the start of my "Companioning", and I too was
often taken for a "pushover", when it came to
calling "time".
I solved that after realizing that the donation must
be presented at the commencement of the one
hour meeting.
Next, counted discreetly, or as one of my duo
partners does; count it out with the guest present.
At first I found it offensive, but then after seeing
it occur a few times, I noticed the body language
of the guest, and it actually creates an immediate
bond of "trust" and a mutual acknowledgement of the
time procured... "we now both agree it's one hour",
"so without further adieu"...
One incident, where a gent was so nervous and it
felt awkward to me, I took the donation out of the
gift bag, and "made it rain in the boudoir"!
He cracked up and thereafter, it was such a fun date.
Angelina Jones
"Desiderata"
Work, class, Skype meeting. Workout. Pick someone up at the airport. Call your grandma. Feed your pet. Pick your child up from the babysitter's. Catch a train. Etc., etc. Lie, if you need to.
If he's just lost track of time, then a gentle hint ("You're more than welcome to take a shower before you leave, there is a towel on the counter") should be enough to get him on the move. But some guys will actually resist ("Oh, class is so boring!!! Skip it!!! Surely you'd rather talk to me about my stamp collection!! And oh, let me show you this looooooong clip of my golf game on youtube!! "). In that case, the problem is with the client, not you - there's little you can do, except make some of the above excuses, and get away as soon as you can manage... and then, decide whether or not you want to see said gent again.
This tends to be a recurring issue with 1-hour appointments. I've had very few 1-hour dates that have been under or within the allotted time. Most guys seem to assume that it's 1 hour-ish. Usually, I'll allow a few extra minutes for dress/undress/chat (I don't usually mind as long as it's confined to that). Some guys unfortunately do book the minimum date with the express attention of keeping you for as long as they can possibly finagle (culminating with the infamous, "Please feel welcome to stay overnight!!").
If he's purposely trying to keep me beyond the time he's booked, then he gets kicked off my "good" list. If he's just kind of chatting but goes over by A LOT and ignores my hints, then I'll expect him to book a longer date next time... if he doesn't, I won't see him again (unless things are really slow, or it's exceptionally convenient, or something).
I'm a very punctual, business-like person so I show up on time and make sure to leave on time too.
I've had a few ladies tell me at the end of a session that she wasn't a clock watcher and I didn't have to be in such a hurry to leave right away. None of them actually asked me to stay longer so I've never known whether my all-business approach is appreciated or maybe they find it a little offensive.
and if the guy has not shown any indication that he understands the session is up suggest it's time to feed the meter again.
Well, not so political or consumer service certified but if they expect more than they are paying for you probably don't want them as clients all that much.
That said, I must confess I typically don't just get up and shower on my own. I will generally point at the clock if we're running out of time I notice but I'll always accommodate the lady's preferences
If a client books 1 hour, I would hope that he really intends to stay 1 hour. But I think (some) may book 1 with full intention of staying for 2 or as long as he can get away with.
If he stays for 2 and leaves a 1 hour donation, then I feel taken advantage of and shorted.
What should the provider do if after an hour, the sesssion is still going strong, he's napping, or seems to definitely want a second round? How do you gracefully either ask for an additional donation, or get him to leave without him feeling "rushed"? A good provider makes him feel like "I don't want him to leave" but if he only pays for an hour... I DO want him to leave. Help?
I usually finish well within the hour, but I remember one time I didn't have chemistry with the girl, couldn't finish, and one minute past the hour, she said "we're out of time"
then she said she could extend our session.
"do you want to extend our session?" sounds better than "we're out of time".
obviously that's another way of saying time is up, and lets the customer know he has overstayed his welcome, in a nice way.
If he didn't bring extra money, he should leave.
i imagine at least half the guys knowingly overstay their welcome, trying to see if you're easy to take advantage of.
you're entitled to kick deadbeats out the door
Legend has it that one of the first timekeeping devices ever invented was devised by a Greek prostitute named Clepsydra. It was a metal bowl with a pinhole in the bottom, floated in a larger bowl of water. As time passed the inner bowl would fill up and eventually sink; when she heard the "clunk" of the bowl sinking she knew that time was up. Different sized bowls could be used to time different intervals. To this day the word "clepsydra" is used to refer to any water-based timekeeping mechanism.
So yes, keeping track of the time during a session has a long and honorable history
...my pimp will be here in 10 minutes and he's been in a bad mood all week.