If a potential client is offended by me "bitching" about certain behaviors, it's likely because he's guilty of at least some of them. That, or he just doesn't like providers who have strong opinions. The thing about Twitter (at least in the context of this industry) is that it gives a glimpse into what we're like beyond the flowery language in our ads. If a guy decides he doesn't want to see me because I tweet that it's lame to text me with "r u avail" at 11:30pm on a Wednesday night, there's no way in hell he'd like my personality outside of the interwebs. So by expressing myself through that particular outlet, I've saved both myself as well as this hypothetical dude lots of time and, in his case, money.
That said, I prefer to inject at least a little charm into my brand of cuntiness. There's a huge difference between "look what this goober said to me, let's all have a chuckle" and "this dude is stupid, you're all stupid, fuck off." If you speak in sweeping generalities or have public meltdowns, then yeah...that's not going to look great. But there's no point in acting like a demure little kissass if that's not who you are.There was a thread not long ago about providers oversharing their political views on Twitter, and how this might turn off potential clients. I don't care about providers and politics, though I understand people are easily triggered by it. So that's not an issue for me.
Lately I've been noticing oversharing about the hobby in particular, and that has the potential to turn me off. I don't go on Twitter all that much, but I will occasionally check on prices and availability. I'm almost always bombarded by the ladies' hobby world experiences and opinions, much like if I were to do a search of posts on TER, I suppose. Except these are concentrated in one place and placed side-by-side next to ads. The juxtaposition can be jarring. It's also chock-full anti-john venting and bitching, which isn't exactly a turn on.
Racy pictures and depictions of sex acts are one thing. If the tweets are unprotected, that could be a concern. But I'm not very interested in that. I'm also indifferent toward their personal lives. If she wants to share, fine. She might want to be careful, but my eyes glide over those sorts of posts. What sometimes bothers me are posts that go after hobbyists, and how casually they're dropped next to business solicitations. Let me give you a hypothetical series of tweets as they might appear on a girl's account:
Tweet #1. "Eff TER. I hate reviews." (Remember who writes and reads reviews. Customers.)
#2. [Hot lingerie pic]
#3. "Screw you, hobbyists X; you're banned"/"Top Ten Reasons Johns Are Stupid"
#4. "Available all week. Please come see me, sweetie-pies."
I sense a bit of disconnect. Nevermind hobbyists who're directly called out, or easily offended. I assuming hooking is like other jobs, and every job I've ever had people bitch. Don't you think the ladies could be more circumspect? Temper your posts a bit, and moderate your message at least as it relates to the hobby. I don't want to overhear shoptalk while looking for an ad.
Then there are the people and situations they publicize directly. That's dangerous ground, and could put off more than just the people involved. But I'm thinking more in general terms. Twitter feeds would be boring if all they consisted of were a series of ads or propaganda-like fake conversation. But there's a limit to sharing.
(Yes, there is something which "triggered" me to write this post. You can pm me for details, but it's not that interesting a story.)
I think it's one of those situations where "There's a time and place for everything"
I also agree, a time & a place for everything. Don't poke a sleeping dog.
Twitter is great. Let's assume I see a provider tweet as you give in your example: DISMISSED.
Better to see the real personality and thoughts of a provider before committing to seeing her.
It works the same the other way as well. She tweets things I like: BOOK.
My inclination is to be more interested in personality and companionship than looks so it's easy for me to forget about a pretty picture when a tweet says the inside is ugly.
The world is full of wonderful women who are attractive inside as well as out. Why worry about an ugly personality when you can simply move on and find a woman who is not tweeting what you see as ugliness?
Better informed is... just better.
I appreciate a woman whose not afraid to say what's on her mind. Her tweets will sometimes remind me of things not to do if I'm interested and decided to reach out to her.
Well said.
Being able to peruse provider twitter feeds has saved me tons of cash. Strong opinions are one thing, but batshit crazy is quite another.
I hear what you're saying, but I was looking at it from an advice to providers about how best to present themselves angle.
from being on twitter.
I don't stalk too much though. I look at what information is available to help me have a good date.
There are providers I know that are beyond sweet on twitter all the time and people love it! Then there are providers who call out disrespectful behavior or things in this field (would we call it field?) that are absolutely dumbfounding. However, because it's their personality, it's expected and people love it! Then there are providers who are in the middle and people love it!
What we have to remember about a social network such as twitter, is it's a place for real world updates in 140 characters. These are usually real world things that occur... daily for some providers. I cannot speak for everyone but I could argue that it is a way for a provider to show an audience what is and is not tolerated. Personally, I think if this is something that potentially bothers a person, then that person is not the provider's desired clientele. They avoid each other. So really it's a win-win wouldn't you agree?
In regards to the "Eff TER", based off of tweets I've seen that had email correspondence between a provider and TER, I think that may stem from the inaccuracies in how policy is applied or how it can be difficult for a provider from time to time. Plus the few random threads that occur that can be eye-brow raising.
At the end of the day, it is what it is. I mean people dog on each other for posting photos of gifts received from thoughtful gents. Let's just call it how we see it, no one will ever be happy with what someone is doing on their specific timeline all the time. If what is being posted turns you off, find someone who posts something that turns you on.
you could call it a field
It's true that a twitter personality can make me like them more or like them less, but really it doesn't have much effect on who I would chose to see. There's quite a discussion on this topic outside in these confines, but basically I agree with the proposition that whereas women are driven by biological evolution to desire men with status and achievement, their assumption that men therefore desire women of achievement it the same way is mostly false.
We all know men like attractive women, but even more so, men like pleasant women. A woman's CV is way down the list of things guys find desirable.
So ... if in twitter the woman seems pleasant to me (she could be assertive, but share a common enemy -- the prime thing being pleasant to me, not to our common enemy) then her twitter personality is a plus.
However since I am mostly just hiring a body (sorry but I don't know how to more honestly put it) her opinions don't really matter in the selection process. I'm probably not going to see her again in any event, and certainly not going to live with her. In reverse they seem happy to take the money and not quiz me on my ideological leanings, etc.
is the little lady given permission to get REAL and let out the REAL person who lives in the BODY.
Note that word, "lives", she is ALIVE.
Being A LIVE human being comes with a MIND.
Twitter is a VOICE for them.
The Evolution of this Twitter is
Women will realize they are not alone in their thinking
and
Men will realize that there is evidence stacking up that women are getting stronger
and learning to get what they want by speaking up and not just showing the BODY parts.
The men that can't handle the BODY/MIND that speaks up for itself
will be Alone with their Money to stick their dick in,
or a Robot.
I like the mind and knowing what I hope is the real person.
I stay away from the twitter gals who only put up lewd photos and have no personality.
I just look at it this way, if you don't like what she says, better to know now versus during the date. Some just sound off about certain things. It doesn't mean they hate the Hobby. Although some do come across as truly hating being a provider. There is a balance.
I just use my twitter for personal use. I don't tweet anything horrid but it is an outlet for my views on RL stuff going on in the world. I chose not to share my twitter for Hobby purposes.
I think some guys tend to forget that females are not stupid. They know if their account is Hobby connected, the guys read what they post. I would assume that they would appreciate not seeing someone who has an issue with what they post.
I for one want to know what they find valuable to share on twitter, it gives me insight on the person.
If some guys feel it ruins it for them, then why bother reading their twitter?
I do agree with the statement that there seems to be more TER complaining. Sometimes it is valid, other times it seems trivial. It is their business to do what they want. I don't agree with most of it but it's not me who loses customers, or gains ones by what they write.
Much like I don't tolerate another girl trying to tell me what to post on these boards. I can do what I want with my opinions. If someone doesn't want to see me based on what I post, then it is better for me to know that and not see them anyways. I am not much into having a fake personality in RL nor the Hobby world.
So although I know some of you guys hate what the ladies put on twitter, then just move on to the next person.
Note that word, "lives", she is ALIVE.
Being A LIVE human being comes with a MIND.
Twitter is a VOICE for them.
The Evolution of this Twitter is
Women will realize they are not alone in their thinking
and
Men will realize that there is evidence stacking up that women are getting stronger
and learning to get what they want by speaking up and not just showing the BODY parts.
The men that can't handle the BODY/MIND that speaks up for itself
will be Alone with their Money to stick their dick in,
or a Robot.
and this doesn't just apply to hookers, but I think it "especially" applies to them.
Let's take the Anti TER "Twatters" for an example, these women by and large are a bunch of MHBs who hold at a large percentage of their clients in disdain. Why in the fuck would I ever want to give any of these bitches a single penny of my money, or want to spend a single second in their company knowing how they feel about me and how I feel about them?
It's one thing to say whatever the fuck you want on your private IRL account, but when you tie your online persona into real life issues like religion or politics you risk driving away half your business with every provocative tweet you make.
This is not a women/men issue, this is a business owner/potential customer issue.
Here is an example you might relate to, remember the intolerant religious puke who used to run Chick fil A? Well, I have strongly enough against that POS that I went years without ever eating a Chick fil A sandwich, and I will fully admit, where it comes to fast food, which is something I normally eschew, Chick fil A puts out a product that most resembles "real food", but I couldn't bring myself to patronize the chain on principle.
yet,
they're doing it.
In this Information Age,
I believe it (the personality on Twitter) will be something guys learn to overlook,
to get to the young beautiful pussy.
Not all men are as demanding of a girl to remain within a specific mold for fuckability as the ones on TER.
Not that the young beautiful ones don't tweet, it's just that the Twatter crowd tends to be made up mainly by the OTHFBC. I chalk that up the fact that it takes a while to get THAT fucking bitter about one's job. The young ones are rarely that jaded. Now of course not all hookers get jaded like that, Slut that you are, you seem to be perfectly capable of having a great attitude after all these years, kudos to you. Come to think of it, "most" of my hooker buddies are all well over thirty.
Personally, I don't really care too much if a woman tweets/posts about controversial subjects, but I draw the line at the true MHB's. I have no desire to make a woman "suffer through" a session with me when it's plain she'd rather be removing her own kidney with a sharpened spoon.
Also, I don't Twitter myself, so unless someone sends me a link, most of the time I will be blissfully unaware of what she tweets.
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A lot of things exist that aren't useful. You sound like someone who says, "Yeah, theoretically you wouldn't want B.O. as a salesmen, but salesmen with B.O. exist and they're not all starving, therefore..."
The Information Age has nothing to do with it, except in the sense that bitching on Twitter is taken less seriously than other forms of bitching. People will get used to it, maybe. Or maybe they'll go see providers who are better at selling themselves.
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except,
The Pussy is
"The Ace in the Hole"
What on earth are you talking about?
I'm confused. Is there something wrong with your keyboard so that whenever you type "me" it comes out as "men"? And does that keyboard also autocorrect "this guy" with "guys"?
If those are not issues, write for yourself. Because you don't speak for this man/guy.
Actually getting to KNOW a person may ruin the FANTASY of what the provider has worked so hard to project
through pretty pictures and paid sales scripts on websites.
The Dick loses interest in the person,
kind of like the wife or SO sitting at home.
Yet, some guys like to KNOW who the person is they will be sticking their dick in.
Twitter takes the mask off for them.
So,
Six one way,
Half a dozen the other.
There's no reason to think the numbers balance out. You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
What if the real person is unattractive?
If a potential client is offended by me "bitching" about certain behaviors, it's likely because he's guilty of at least some of them. That, or he just doesn't like providers who have strong opinions. The thing about Twitter (at least in the context of this industry) is that it gives a glimpse into what we're like beyond the flowery language in our ads. If a guy decides he doesn't want to see me because I tweet that it's lame to text me with "r u avail" at 11:30pm on a Wednesday night, there's no way in hell he'd like my personality outside of the interwebs. So by expressing myself through that particular outlet, I've saved both myself as well as this hypothetical dude lots of time and, in his case, money.
That said, I prefer to inject at least a little charm into my brand of cuntiness. There's a huge difference between "look what this goober said to me, let's all have a chuckle" and "this dude is stupid, you're all stupid, fuck off." If you speak in sweeping generalities or have public meltdowns, then yeah...that's not going to look great. But there's no point in acting like a demure little kissass if that's not who you are.
...I really like your brand of cuntiness. 😎
I've worked quite hard to cultivate said cuntiness, though much of it is surely innate. Perhaps one day there will be a controlled study on the nature vs. nurture argument with respect to the cunty arts.
but I will concede you have not only mastered the cunty arts, but have truly turned into an art form of itself.
I'm proud that I can bring out the BSU in you!
So where do I stand in the BSU rankings? lol
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Tell him to get off his lazy, sun soaked manwhore butt and come visit. lol.
I always have a drinking buddy in Texas.
and if you are still standing, the next 20 are on me too.
As far as me visiting, hit me back when the temperature up there rises by another 20 degrees or so. lol
I'll say yes on Alex's behalf anyhow. I can just imagine what kind of trouble three of us could get into.
...seems you're not beyond sucking up once in a while yourself. 😎
"If a potential client is offended by me 'bitching' about certain behaviors, it's likely because he's guilty of at least some of them"
Sorry to be so blunt, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Either you don't know the sort of things some girls post, or you don't know client psychology. Let me put it this way: there are so many providers out there, so many good times to be had, that often the difference between choosing this one over that is razor thin. Once I stopped seeing a girl with whom I had 5 wonderful sessions because in one email she made a mildly backhanded comment and complained slightly about the score I gave her on TER. Which as I type it out sounds a little petty, but you girls are expensive. Why throw money at someone with whom I associate a negative feeling when there are so much unexplored territory?
On the flip side, I was somewhat let down by a couple comments my now ATF made the first time I saw her. I left the session feeling down. But I sensed there was something there, and the second session was leagues better. So you never know. But why risk it? Because I'm not talking about showing your personality, here. I'm not even talking about not discussing the hobby. I'm just talking about tempering your comments and watching what you say for outright offense.
This is one of those "Ladies don't try this at home" type of situations, but some women can pull off cuntiness while the overwhelming majority cannot.
TT and LR before her have mastered the art of being cunty, yet still being not just tolerated, but achieving huge popularity not "inspite" of their cuntiness, but in large part "because" of it.
I guess it's like telling jokes, it's all in the delivery. Some can do it, others can't.
I think I am much the same on the male side of the equation. I have mastered the art of "assholiness" and while not all people are going to "get me" you'd be surprised just how many female friends I have made on these board "because of" my assholiness, TT included. lol
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I'll take your word for it. Of course, that doesn't mean she knows what she's talking about vis-a-vis clients reactions to bitchy tweets. Because if she can pull it off, others can't. And when clients read providers who can't pull it off, they aren't necessarily offended because it "hits too close to home," or however you might put it.
...all you have to do if you don't like what they have to say is to unfollow them.
Am I going soft or something lately that I didn't even get a shout out?
The senility must be catching up to me.
Well, there is a difference in those that twitter and point out what not to do to her versus the ones that are coming across as man haters and BSC. If all you ever tweet is negative, you can get a clear picture of how much she likes doing this. Others will point things out and still have positive tweets in there.
TT and LR before her have mastered the art of being cunty, yet still being not just tolerated, but achieving huge popularity not "inspite" of their cuntiness, but in large part "because" of it.
I guess it's like telling jokes, it's all in the delivery. Some can do it, others can't.
I think I am much the same on the male side of the equation. I have mastered the art of "assholiness" and while not all people are going to "get me" you'd be surprised just how many female friends I have made on these board "because of" my assholiness, TT included. lol
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Bitchy maybe, but not cunty. I think TT has even trademarked the term. lol
and remember you are half as old as me, and that makes you "half as old as dirt" so senility is likely at your advanced age.
TT and LR before her have mastered the art of being cunty, yet still being not just tolerated, but achieving huge popularity not "inspite" of their cuntiness, but in large part "because" of it.
I guess it's like telling jokes, it's all in the delivery. Some can do it, others can't.
I think I am much the same on the male side of the equation. I have mastered the art of "assholiness" and while not all people are going to "get me" you'd be surprised just how many female friends I have made on these board "because of" my assholiness, TT included. lol
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You're exactly right: the razor's edge is very thin and a random tweet may very well lead a potential client to choose my competitor over me. I guess what I was trying to say in a very verbose way is that I don't give a shit.
Seriously, though, I can't think of a single example of something a chick may tweet in reference to lame behavior that would offend anyone other than those who are guilty of said behavior. Even in your OP, the example you gave of "I hate reviews" isn't going to bother anyone unless they rely upon the review system. And the other one to the effect of "top 10 reasons why johns are stupid" is too vague and general to adequately respond to. I did say, however, that using sweeping generalities was unbecoming. But if some chick is like "I'm fucking sick of dudes leaving skid marks on my comforter," that's only going to bother dudes with dirty asses (it shouldn't bother anyone else, anyway). If you've got a more representative example of what you're referring to, though, I'm all ears.
Sorry to be so blunt, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Either you don't know the sort of things some girls post, or you don't know client psychology. Let me put it this way: there are so many providers out there, so many good times to be had, that often the difference between choosing this one over that is razor thin. Once I stopped seeing a girl with whom I had 5 wonderful sessions because in one email she made a mildly backhanded comment and complained slightly about the score I gave her on TER. Which as I type it out sounds a little petty, but you girls are expensive. Why throw money at someone with whom I associate a negative feeling when there are so much unexplored territory?
On the flip side, I was somewhat let down by a couple comments my now ATF made the first time I saw her. I left the session feeling down. But I sensed there was something there, and the second session was leagues better. So you never know. But why risk it? Because I'm not talking about showing your personality, here. I'm not even talking about not discussing the hobby. I'm just talking about tempering your comments and watching what you say for outright offense.
I'm not offended when someone tweets that they hate the review system at TER, but I will probably pass on that provider. I remember the disappointing quality of the average appointment before there were online reviews, and I don't want to go back to those days. I understand that some guys misuse the review system, but overall it seems to work to the advantage of both the johns and the better providers. So I assume that anybody who dislikes the online reviews has something to hide, like maybe Russian attitude or hygiene problems or a tendency to end the appointment right after a pop.
Seriously, though, I can't think of a single example of something a chick may tweet in reference to lame behavior that would offend anyone other than those who are guilty of said behavior. Even in your OP, the example you gave of "I hate reviews" isn't going to bother anyone unless they rely upon the review system.
"Seriously, though, I can't think of a single example of something a chick may tweet in reference to lame behavior that would offend anyone other than those who are guilty of said behavior."
I don't have a particular example in mind. (The thing I said triggered me in my original post involved me personally, so it doesn't qualify.) But scanning my memory, I remember one provider tweeting about how shorting ladies is tantamount to rape. She granted it may be accidental, in which case she emphasized the client better make it up ASAP. Nevermind the politico-legal debate. Like I said, that sort of thing doesn't put me off. I just don't like the idea of a provider yelling "Rape!" if I make a mistake. And I've never shorted a provider in my life, to my knowledge. (None of them have chased me down, and I've talked to pretty much every girl I've seen afterwards in one form or another.)
Then there are the times when they post screenshots of communication with clients or potential clients. Which are often retweets, and could be fake. Usually they involve "r u available?" or negotiations over rates. I don't like the idea that my emails and whatnot may be published for the sake of mockery, even though I think I'm professional and respectful in my communication. I do ask about availability, but in complete sentences. I also try to take advantage of special rates, though I don't consider it the bad kind of negotiation.
They also talk about specific things said in reviews which bothered them, often involving denigration of their appearance. That I have done in my reviews. It's hard not to make a lady feel bad when honestly critiquing her looks, even if you think she's hot. I understand reviews are public, and it's not like publishing emails, or whatever. But I think it's unprofessional to comment on reviews like that. Especially considering how much I rely on them as a customer.
I don't like when they call out specific hobbyists and say "you're banned!" Which they do sometimes. I've never been banned by a provider, to my knowledge, and don't expect to be. And I don't imagine the guys don't deserve it. I just don't like when ladies do it publicly.
I could find more particular examples by scouring feeds, but I don't feel like doing that. Suffice to say it's a lot of little things, and often it has no bearing on my career as a hobbyist.
Use it as a screening tool. If a provider displays negative behavior or behavior you don't like, don't see them. Just use it as another screening tool if they have one. You can't control what providers will and won't post and there no reason to.
There are many hot girls out there that want money, so how hard is it to move on to the next rather than whining or asking everyone to Tweet to your liking?
it's fair to ask people to act professional
So I could generally care less about whether or not a post I make puts someone in their "feelings". Nobody is going to police my behavior.
I actually dislike escort twitters that are overly positive/clearly marketing. I also dislike ladies who use it just to rag on clients. There's a happy middle ground.
It's my twitter and I want to give clients a glimpse into my personality. If I feel like complaining about something? I will do so. And maybe, just maybe I am talking about you. In the same way that, after an amazing client, I may wax poetic about it 5 tweets later. If you don't like my twitter, you may not like me as a person. And that's also okay 
If you don't like her twitter? Don't book. It's really not that deep.
ironically, not every provider has bedside manner
"Must Miss List" - the most dreaded list for all providers.
haha. I got an email from a guy telling me my disclaimer on my DC Eros ad was "a bit over the top. Tone it down."
He just couldn't handle it. Instead of moving on to the next ad, thinking in his head, "God I don't like that woman", he had to make sure Eros was fully clear of any type of disclaimer that would make him sweat a little bit - by sending me an email to ask ME to change MY ad because his poor yittow baby eyes couldn't handle my disclaimer.
Get a life.
Why do you care so much that you sit and think up on how a woman presents herself? You don't have to see her. She doesn't even have to know that you exist.
Might I present to you, "Mute" and "Block". Twitter does provide those things.
I can see how it may appear confusing to see one tweet claiming to hate hobbyist and everything about the hobby and then the next tweet soliciting business. Honestly, I see twitter as a beneficial tool for the ladies and the gents. You get to screen each other and make sure you are compatible before hand. If you don't like women who stand up for themselves and are open about not wanting to engage with a culture that is disrespectful, negligent and misogynistic then I completely understand why seeing tweets of this nature would be a turn off. I see it as a win-win. You don't have to spend your money seeing someone who finds your behavior repulsive and she doesn't have to risk being ridiculed and scorned. I think it is important to realize that while sex workers do work in a service industry, our business relies heavily on the connections we make. Minimizing the amount of people who we are not compatible with will only maximize our success.
I personally use twitter to advertise, announce my tours and connect with other providers. I like being able to talk about asinine things happening in my day and having the opportunity to show my personality without feeling like I will be harangued by the peanut gallery. I think it's about having balance. I have the agency to say "Today was a crap day and I've had some crappy things happen" without fearing that someone maybe won't see me because I just so happen to be human.