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LaffysBoytoy 424 reads
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What you ask...

Seems there is more ripoffs but they are held accountable via reviews.

Seems like there is too many cheap hookers who have issues, such as drugs, rob, bait and switch, half assers. Mainly because of BP where any one with a kitty thinks they can do this.

A few years ago it was easier to review the ladies. They weren't so hooked on needing straight 10/10. Now it is a fight to be an honest reviewer. Like I previously said, a 8 or 9 is still damn good.  

I guess if you use the review system properly, you limit bad experiences. Just have to be careful for the ones who only get 10s. There is a reason why they only get 10s and it is not because they are a 10 always. It is because they lash out and force some guys to give them 10s. Of course I have found this happens more in bigger cities rather than smaller ones.

A lot of things come to light when hookers try to game the system. They even go as far as paying for likes just to be Miss Ter. I know the rules changed but don't ever think they aren't trying to game the system.  

Ps, I must have contacted 6 girls in NYC who have recent reviews for Greek... not true at all. Gaming the system.

I stay away from any girl who only has 10s for reviews. Nothing but trouble. I might even one day be tempted to call them out by name on their local board. I travel somewhat for business and vacations.
Posted By: LikeTearsInRain
How has the SW business changed over the years?  
 Is the business changing faster now?  
 How have review boards changed over the years?

How has the SW business changed over the years?
Is the business changing faster now?
How have review boards changed over the years?

There wasn't much advertising on the internet and I worked solely for an escort agency in Sydney, visiting businessmen in hotels in the centre of town. It was all night work, and I had a driver who stayed with me for my night. No twitter, no marketing or emailing or admin for me - I just showed up dressed and made up and was driven around to jobs or for coffee breaks and then went home. I worked 2/3 nights a week and never gave it any thought on my days off.

These days as an independent it's much more work but for fewer paid hours. My bookings aren't made on the night but sometimes months beforehand in places where I have tour dates some time out. I don't work every week but I may work every day when I'm on tour, but not night work now unless it's an overnight or weekend booking.  

In the time when I'm not with delightful clients I now have to do twitter, arrange and write adverts, workout, do beauty maintenance stuff, answer emails, post on here, book hotels, flights, arrange visas, do finance stuff, etc etc. it's a much more hands on business role than I had in the past and the internet has made it that way. It's a double edged sword as it also means I can reach clients in places I'd never have dreamt I'd have been able to work 10 years ago. I'm now in my final couple of years as a provider and I mean to make the most of all the opportunities it brings and then pass the baton to all the younger, up and coming switched on young ladies there are entering the industry.

Fascinating. Thank you for the great response!
I read one article about how the internet and social media and even just cell phones have changed the business so much, but that article wasn't as informative as this post.

Oh yeah and I'm glad you mentioned working out. Interesting to learn that perhaps that need is increasing. Are clients more fit as well?

And I forgot to say in my last response to you how interesting it is to me that 2003 seems like such a long time ago....in a lot of ways.

(2003 is also important to me as my atf porn star was doing videos then ;)

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I first got into the hobby back in 1997. The internet and cell phones were around even back then, but both charged by the minute. The internet wasn't a part of the hobby yet, so I found escorts either by calling agencies listed in the yellow pages (under E for Escort) or calling phone numbers from ads in the local free weekly paper. Most escorts worked for agencies, and even some of the independents at least used a driver for security.

Due to the lack of reviews back then, I was often disappointed by escorts. Some would schedule an appointment, and then keep pushing it back later and later into the evening as they lined up other calls and did them first. Others would show up on time, but look considerably different from what I talked to the agency about. For example, one time I asked for a slender, young blonde, and the agency sent a tall, thick blonde who had suspiciously large hands. MSOG was not a thing back then, so if you popped after fifteen minutes, the appointment was over. Upsell was common and annoying, and sometimes killed the mood. Reviews are important, because they keep providers more honest. On the flip side, it's great for the escorts that they can now warn each other online about bad johns. So overall, I think the internet has improved the hobby for everyone involved, except for the scammers and abusers.

back when I was a teenager.
And again when I was stuck in Memphis after missing the last flight out.
I never pulled the trigger though...until this year.....and you know I don't even know why not then...and why now...

And after YP came waiting for the Village Voice or some other alternative local weekly.  Only published once a week.  Viillage Voice I believe was the precursor of BP. I think Craig's List came out around the same time.

Another major change in the last 20 years is screening. Only agencies did any screening, and all they did was compare the phone number on caller ID with a list of phone numbers of bad johns that had used that agency in the past. Without screening, escorts did LE checks to screen on the spot, and tended to have a driver or some other backup plan in case the john got too rough.

Don't forget "Screw" magazine and those newsprint handouts that used to be available in adult bookstores and strip bars.

LaffysBoytoy425 reads

What you ask...

Seems there is more ripoffs but they are held accountable via reviews.

Seems like there is too many cheap hookers who have issues, such as drugs, rob, bait and switch, half assers. Mainly because of BP where any one with a kitty thinks they can do this.

A few years ago it was easier to review the ladies. They weren't so hooked on needing straight 10/10. Now it is a fight to be an honest reviewer. Like I previously said, a 8 or 9 is still damn good.  

I guess if you use the review system properly, you limit bad experiences. Just have to be careful for the ones who only get 10s. There is a reason why they only get 10s and it is not because they are a 10 always. It is because they lash out and force some guys to give them 10s. Of course I have found this happens more in bigger cities rather than smaller ones.

A lot of things come to light when hookers try to game the system. They even go as far as paying for likes just to be Miss Ter. I know the rules changed but don't ever think they aren't trying to game the system.  

Ps, I must have contacted 6 girls in NYC who have recent reviews for Greek... not true at all. Gaming the system.

I stay away from any girl who only has 10s for reviews. Nothing but trouble. I might even one day be tempted to call them out by name on their local board. I travel somewhat for business and vacations.

Posted By: LikeTearsInRain
How has the SW business changed over the years?  
 Is the business changing faster now?  
 How have review boards changed over the years?

Thank you for your response. I am starting to learn that with all the changes mentioned in the response above yours the business changes lightning fast. For example, there is a huge back lash against review boards on twitter now that are fed up with the ratings systems. While some you say may be very insistent that you write a good review, I see some on twitter that do not want you to write a review. So will put up a nice note from you on their web sites. I suppose this could just be VIP provider. The providers that are just starting out need the reviews to build up their name in the business.

I'm noticing the younger ladies are less professional and see it as a fun thing to do for extra cash rather than an actual job where they have to deliver consistent quality and reliable service to their clients.  

As a result, they tend to be lax about basics like screening properly, appearance, manners and etiquette, and are more open on social media.  

Since the recession ended 8 years ago, the newest crop of 18-24 year olds seem to be very lackadasial about maintaining internet privacy. They're using the same photos in their ads on their personal social media (and getting surprised when they're found out).  

I noticed the younger generation seems to have a more fly-by-the-seat-of their pants attitude towards sex, hooking up, and p4p as well.

I think the guys are the same as they've always been, they basically take cues from the working girls on how to behave. I notice in areas where the girls are more into wild party culture, the guys tend to be more brusque...in areas that are more conservative where the ladies maintain high standards and decorum, the men behave better.  

It's been said that women traditionally uphold the community and culture, and I think that applies to the hobby world as well. Women set the tone in this business, and the men respond accordingly.

I have a lot of perspective given that I've done booking, screening, and marketing for providers over the years before deciding to be one.

for the hobby.  Before them you had to buy weekly entertainment magazines and go to the personals section, or look up agencies in the Yellow Pages, or look for street walkers, or maybe strip clubs.

But in the last 15 years or so that I've been on TER or used the internet, the only changes have been incremental.

I wonder what the next big thing will be - possibly social media.

Legalization would also make a big change, but I'm not holding my breath for that.

to start a new thread about legalization and SW rights.
Perhaps Friday....

Please let me know.  I can definitely contribute my .02 but you ladies wouldn't understand that and it's now worth .005 after grade inflation as everyone now gets a '10'

see a new provider with very few or no reviews to be asking $500 or more and not even be GFE; while the going rate for a quality well-reviewed GFE provider is $400-500. For me, it is all about spending time with a known quantity rather that TOFTT at the same price point.  

The industry is booming.
But I would like to somehow figure out if there is a way to actually know if that is true.
Can we ever really know?

Also, separate question: what would happen if college was free?
So many college women paying for school in P4P

Back in the day, SW meant a street walker. That was the only game in town. You really had to be careful to avoid the dekes. Not to mention the sessions were short, and lousy.  

Another option was the Nevada brothels. That was a giant step up from the street walkers, and sessions were way better. It was also legal. The drawback was no kissing, and not much of a connection, unless you got really lucky. The other drawback was that it was far away.

SWs were still in play when the idea of the amp came about. Amps sprung up all over the place, including mid sized towns. Sometimes you got lucky, and sometimes you got an average massage. But those places opened and closed faster than you could get an atf. Although I did have one. Some of the amps had codes, or flashing lights to let you know if a raid was on. Some of those sessions were really outstanding comparatively.  

After that, the start of the internet happened. There were several different websites, but they were hit and miss. But then one particular escort started her own website, and had a few ladies working with her. I went there a few times. Those sessions were better.

Lastly came the review websites. That’s when sessions went off the chart. There were so many beautiful ladies with great reviews to choose from. Connections took those sessions to another level. You could also meet like minded ladies in the forums, and send private messages. Of course there are never any guarantees, but the odds of a wonderful session increased exponentially with the advent of reviews. Thanks TER!

Wow the the dark ages of P4P was bleak! Or at least most of the time.
Yeah maybe I should spell out sex workers now because I had forgotten about street walkers.
When I moved to DC there were street walkers close by.
Also the police station was close by.
Which was next to the drug corner

I started a very, very long time ago. A massage parlor I worked at for several years closed. For 2 years after that I ran into people I knew from there on AOL and in various local chat rooms on MSN and Yahoo. I tried (and quickly quit) a few different agencies and then started advertising as an Indy in our local free newspaper - Riverfront Times.  

I worked out of hotels (some I couldn't check into because I wasn't 21) and my apartment. I used a pager and not a cell phone. I didn't screen at all when I was younger. I am surprised nothing really bad happened other than a few bad dates. Local forums and national boards took off in what seemed like an overnight thing. I remember finding out I had my first review on TER when someone called that I did not give my number to.

After that business took off. I ve had great duo partners over the years. I use to travel to different cities and meet new people.
I am a little more settled and careful now. I no longer travel and host at my place. I screen for my safety. Always discreet.  

Im lucky enough that I live in a bigger city (St Louis) that has a few local boards in addition to national forums. Im not sure how business would be without them.

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