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micktoz 41 Reviews 449 reads
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What an excellent answer!  You, dear friend are quite a clever woman.

Mommascomin7205 reads

I read it as "this girl really loves money"  

This message brought to you by the Federation of Providers who'd Prefer their Clients weren't Delusional or the FPPCD.

Inb4 provider posts a threAD about how she loves sex with all her clientele.

...that was willing to converse with me via email a couple of times. She's in a different city and won't be her until April so the email exchange was short but I value all the feedback and info the women can graciously give me in their busy lives.
I asked what percentage was for love of sex and what percentage was for love of money or was it 100% for both.
She said 100% for both. I know for a fact that everyone is different, but I thought this might be true for many.
I think the money gets rid of all the bull that is out there irl, and the two people (or three ;) are able to just enjoy the moment. Sure the SW is performing and enjoying performing especially if that performance is giving pleasure to their client. I keep it gender neutral because I have been avidly reading a male escort's web page and that is where I get most of my information about this topic. The money allows the SW to take charge and allows the client to relax and enjoy. If the client is relaxed then I think the SW can enjoy as well.
my 99 cents.

GaGambler631 reads

Getting your information from web pages is like wanting to become an expert on cars by reading car company advertisements.  

When you have several hundred, or better yet, several thousand of these conversations come back and your opinion might have some merit.

and did you REALLY ask some hooker that you've been emailing with a question this dumb??? No wonder the email exchange was so short.

Ha! yes I am nosy and I didn't expect the exchange to last. But to be fair she did offer some insight into her motivations before I asked.
I bet there are a whole spectrum of reasons for people to do this work...perhaps because everyone is different.

I personally truly enjoy sex, romance and company. Of course money is great too...but I am not desperate enough to do things to my body and well being for some money. There are other ways.

I feel the same way. I really do love sex! I decided to start doing this to keep me in check actually. It makes more sense to do it with respectful gentleman that gives me a donation rather than random tinder hookups for free. I'm only raising my rates because I was drowning in emails and I'd like to thin the herd so to speak.

 I really do enjoy sex with all my clients (so far :D) and to me personality matters more than anything. If I feel comfortable in your presence, I'm going to be extra generous ;)

 Now I'm a busy entrepreneur that makes a lot of money doing what she loves. This my dream job. What more could I ask for?! :)  

The message brought to you by those clients who claim they have brought the provider to Multi "O" with their ATM length, pencil thick member.

Yes, I have a warped sense of humor and I'll admit nothing to the second comment. Only those whom I've seen before will absolutely know.

Mommascomin472 reads

For sex work to be seen as work. Nobody expects their surgeon to love cutting, or their maid to like cleaning, or their accountant to like numbers, or they're therapist to enjoy listening. Yes they can expect a positive and polite disposition, like in any business.  

Yes they should want good acting or a good performance, but I'd love if clients who leave it at that and not speculate as to whether it was a truly enjoyed experience on her end or not. What's the point?  

People can and should love their jobs, but this whole notion of needing the providers to "really love sex" in order to have a good time is silly.

GaGambler494 reads

Pretending there aren't at least some providers that actually really do "love sex" is about as narrow minded  and foolish as "needing" her to be that way to have a good time.

When I see, "she really loves sex" in a review, my first thought is that she bring a "good attitude" to the session. I don't read it literally, mainly because so many reviewers are delusional and have no idea whether or not she really "loves sex" or if she simply brings a good attitude to her job. Not to mention I don't really care if she is genuinely a nympho or if she is simply good at her job.

I suppose the next thing you are going to take issue with are reviewers who claim to give multiple O's to every hooker they meet up with. I eagerly await your next OP. lmao

BTW, my accountant does love numbers, but I think he loves hookers more. As for my maid, I really doubt she loves cleaning, I don't have a surgeon and the ones I do know never talk shop, which leaves us with therapists, can you REALLY imagine me talking to a therapist???

Everyone chooses for whatever reason to enter this world. Part of my reason is somewhat therapeutic. Just as much as I have found being inked therapeutic or disappearing into the wilderness on my own for extended periods of time.  

Sex is only fraction of their "job", at least for some. For some it really is only a job. Whose to say whether they really enjoy it or not. I personally think some get so used to the $ that it's difficult for them to walk away. That my opinion, for good or bad.

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GaGambler241 reads

I get indirect therapy all the time, from bartenders, hookers, et al, but NEVER from some douche bag shrink spouting psycho babble at hooker prices without ever pouring me a drink or sucking my dick. lol

and of course you are right about the money. Who the hell would want to cut their pay by a factor of ten or more of their own free will?

I won't argue the point that some providers, and you sound like a good example of one, may enjoy your work but that does not mean we as consumers should read anything into the fact that you seem to be having a good time while doing so. Maybe you are simply being polite and positive, but I would dare say many of us can tell the difference as while someone can be a good actress but we're a pretty sharp bunch, and that doesn't mean we can't tell you are acting nonetheless.

But when you say:

Posted By: Mommascomin
Nobody expects their surgeon to love cutting, or their maid to like cleaning, or their accountant to like numbers, or they're therapist to enjoy listening. Yes they can expect a positive and polite disposition, like in any business
... I take a different view.  

I provide a very personal service in my work, While it's not as much fun as sex, I love what I do, I give my all to my clients, and my clients expect it. They want and need my best and I try to give it to them. My entire reputation in my field is based on the genuine passion I put into what I do for my clients.  

I surely don't speak for everyone - neither of us do - but I bet there are many others on this board who feel the same way about their work, whether monger or provider.  

And I'll bet there are plenty of surgeons, accountants and therapists who feel the same way.  In fact, if I am going to hire someone for a job that requires great skill, I'm damn sure going to want to find someone who loves their work and who gets really jazzed up over getting the desired result.  

I'd like to think that there are some providers who fall into this category, and I'm betting that I've shared time with a few.  

Well said! I too have a job that requires me to be "on" and creative for extended periods of time to provide good service to my customers.
It's exhausting! and I don't even have sex with them lol

client_number_9376 reads

There's only one of us in this room that needs to cum.  

As much as I love what I do and get paid handsomely for it, I'd still rather be smoking weed and playing Xbox, so I know where you're coming from.

triage395 reads

many people do love their jobs

VOO-doo301 reads

Also that there needs to be reciprocity.  

I mean, a guy can't just open the door w/o even a hello or even an offer to use the bathroom, work a girl like a team of oxen for 1-3 hours, and DEMAND that she enjoy herself. Like, "I'm gonna XXX and you're gonna LOVE it!! Here!!! BAM BAM BAM!! Wow, that's great... I can tell by the way you just went with it that you LOVED IT!!!! That's why I only see girls that truly enjoy this work!!"  

If a guy is considerate of my wants, needs, self, and boundaries as a professional, I'll be much happier with him - and, that will translate into the quality of service I'm able to provide. I mean, acting can only go so far - great service is best when it comes from the heart.  

I'm not saying "Treat me like the queen I am!!!" I'm just talking about offering me a glass of water when I arrive, initiating a break if, say he has ED and I've had his dick in my mouth for 2+ hours straight. If we go out to dinner, ask me what I like and if I've had enough to eat (I had an overnight recently and the guy was on a DIET! I was starving all night and the next day). Things like that. If he treats me the way he'd like to be treated if roles were flipped (or, at least a close approximation) I guarantee I'll enjoy my time more. And I'll SO want make him happy (rather than just tolerating him and counting down the minutes until I can plausibly make my excuses and GTFO)!!

my view of the work I am lucky enough to be able to do is different from the one you suggest. I do expect the surgeons to whom I send my patients to love what they do and to do it with a passion.  
Like anyone, I like to get paid for what I do, but I am not working for money. Only once in my professional life was I working for money and I soon arranged a change in my professional situation.  
I love taking care of my patient.  It is my work,my profession, and I get paid, but I love what I do.  I often work on my week ends off and I always leave vacation time on the table at the end of the year.
I don't like all of my patients, but I love taking care of every one of them.  
I cannot put myself int he place of a sex worker or an accountant  or a construction worker or my colleagues (many of whom complain a lot about work conditions) I can only report that for me, at age 75, I have almost always loved what I do for a living and still do.

Well said. The most that can be said is that providers dont mind the work, and in some cases genuinely like the hobbyists they are seeing.  

But for most SW its not about getting off - its more about giving the client his fantasy. If its his fantasy to see the provider cum, then they either cum or act like they are. The notion of a girl cumming 3-4 times in a 30 min session is pure fantasy and if you think you are doing that, well have fun :)

…to get money as a reward for it, which she may love, also.  

So, if reviewer worded it as above and without putting direct words in the provider’s mouth by making a conjecture, then it is fair enough to not be criticized for it?

I have met all different types, ages, and personalities.  There seems to me many different dynamic formulas as to how a woman comes to the P4P world and then either moves on or stays in it as a profession, to those who thrive and absolutely love it resulting in a blend of personal, professional, emotional and financial reasons.  The latter being the special ones who truly provide a GFE experience IMO, even to the point where the lines sometimes blur between performance art/fantasy and a connection at some level/reality.  I don't think I am delusional, rather have been party to a wide spectrum of experience.  I am a more mature fellow and bring my own unique alchemy to the equation which truly is the erotic mystery, adventure and fun to be had; and on some very rare and special occasions everyone is just loving the one they are with in that one moment in time.

Mommascomin465 reads

You sounds exactly like the guys I'm referring to. Your "own unique alchemy"???? Where do you get this stuff? Is there a course our book on writing cheesy literotic reviews that gets passed around?

I am sorry you fell out of bed on the wrong side today.  And yes, I am a unique person and bring something along to the meeting besides an envelope.  You can think I am delusional but it does not change my experience or feelings.  I don't need you to validate them, just as yours are what they are, and I am not going to judge them (even if tempted to).

at some point.

In my own case, I probably have one of the best jobs out there.  It's close to home, has good pay and security, no heavy lifting, lots of prestige.

Yet I constantly finding myself bemoaning having to work.  I often need to force myself to have a reality check.

From time to time I'll go on an extended vacation and wishing I was back at work.

Such is human existence.

I'm sort of glad I don't make my living by offering sex.  I'd hate my love of it to become jaded.

Perhaps the best providers aren't those who necessarily love sex, but those that are best of conveying the impression that they do.  Whichever it is, I am certainly grateful for the fact that they do so.  

No day in day out for me. Each experience I have is different and unique, some better than others. Some absolutely wonderful.

Steph xoxo

Do I love sex? Yes.  Do I love sex with every client I meet? No.
Do any of them know which one is which? No.
If I'm really not in the mood for it with anyone I don't work at all. That's the beauty of this job. If I'm horny as all hell then I can work more. If I start feeling a bit jaded or like my job is rubbish I take a holiday and after a while I start wishing I was back at it again and I plan my next availability.

Well said.

I am actually quite odd. I love sex and want it all of the time, but I enjoy the touching/kissing/conversation build up more. I guess I would also say that I like hearing about new things that maybe I didn't know about. I find quite a lot interesting and enjoy learning, even odd things.

If I am in a mood, I just say no. It is better that way than doing a half hearted attempt.

Posted By: clairecavendish
Do I love sex? Yes.  Do I love sex with every client I meet? No.  
 Do any of them know which one is which? No.  
 If I'm really not in the mood for it with anyone I don't work at all. That's the beauty of this job. If I'm horny as all hell then I can work more. If I start feeling a bit jaded or like my job is rubbish I take a holiday and after a while I start wishing I was back at it again and I plan my next availability.

Dfusethesituation446 reads

We live in, hobbying at least.  It's the same way I feel reading reviews that say "this girl loves Greek!"  Cracks me up.  When you look on the menu for the prices it's $400 for Non-GFE, $500 for GFE and $800 for PSE with Greek.  Yes, I can really see that you love Greek.  

In comparison, I am retired military, I work with weapons instruction now.  I compare my days in the suck, dealing with 6 click movements with 50 lb rucks and weapons in 120 degree weather and training ops where shooting wasn't so fun, but now as a civilian getting paid to instruct shooting and shoot in between time, I am 10 times more appreciative.  When I hear guys complain about making $600 a day and $300 an off day, I laugh, because it's silly to me, but to each his own.  

Work is work, but consider something like acting (stage, TV, movies...)  People have to work hard and there is a lot of competition ... but many amateurs practice for months and put on plays and musicals for free.  

It's entirely possible for some people to enjoy what otherwise involves a lot of hard work.

... but I've known a few providers who really did love sex and loved their jobs. One of them was insatiable and was the only provider to wear me out in a one-hour session.  She's retired now, got married (to a lucky guy!). Another is thinking of retiring soon as her SO got a job with big money but has to travel a lot, so she wants to spend more time at home with their kids and working on another business they have.  But she told me that she's planning to do part-time p4p then because she needs more sex than what her SO can give her.  She's told me she really loves what she does, except when she gets an asshat client and that doesn't happen to her often.

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Mommascomin323 reads

Never did I say that providers can't love their jobs. Nor did I say that no provider loves her job. So your point is sort of irrelevant.

I did talk about providers who love sex.  I never said you don't think providers can't love their jobs. I just gave some examples of providers I know who happen to love sex AND love their jobs.

Is that OK with you, Ms. Sunshine?

FakawiTribe376 reads

Too bad the really bad providers can't get fired.

they like sex with ALL of their clientele.  Most of the girls I see ONLY like sex with me, because they tell me that when I see them.  I've known most of them a long time, so I think I can trust them when they tell me something like that as I'm handing them the envelope.  

triage400 reads

if you can't trust the providers you're dating then you might want to date better providers

why on earth would we give them money....  

Honestly, if you don't like your job - really not a good idea to let your customers know.  Sort of a universal thing.  

I know that the concierge at the Ritz probably doesn't REALLY like dealing with me.  The guy who parks my car there - also.  But guess what - some positive attitude and they get paid.  If not - certainly not as well.  And guess what - most of the guys here are not so delusional as to believe that this is "real".  

"Keeping it real" is for the real world.

If I want real.... not gonna pay somebody.  I can get that for free.

...that the love of the money goes up in an inversely proportional relationship with how much of a jerk the client is being. The more the client is a decent guy, doesn't give her grief for no real reason, maybe gets to know her for 10 minutes before getting naked -- well, then her enjoyment factor goes up considerably.

I love my job and yes, it's still work -- but some days (and some clients) can make or break my enjoyment of it to the fullest.

Awesome response! Let's get rid of the jerks!

i hope her love of money motivates her to do the best acting she can.... like she can't get enough of my ugly face, ugly dick, and nasty cum.

Exactly! I will go one further. She better love the money and I'm paying her to act like she loves sex with me and then I get to leave.
How she acts with everyone else is none of my business.

The really cool thing is that I have found several beautiful sex workers who have me believing that they are really enjoying themselves . That's why I go back to them.

This is so much fun.

If one has partied long enough, one does encounter the occasional woman who loves sex. The signs are abundant, and it's such a pleasure to make such a discovery. Usually their prices are low, and they'll see you anytime. The only drawback is that you better bring your A game, otherwise, money or not, you might not get invited back. That adds to the pressure, but it's fun pressure.  

There's also the possibility, and this also happens sometimes, you catch them just at the right moment. When they're extremely happy, or horny for that matter. Those signs are abundant too.

I can honestly say over 90% of my dates in the "hobby" have been great!! I cannot see how that would be possible if the provider didn't seem to at least get SOME enjoyment out of it!! I honestly believe (as several have commented throughout this thread) that it's the financial rewards AND the enjoyment of the work that steers women into this life.

Saw a tweet that said something to the effect that nothing turns her on more than getting that payment.
Read on and she says stuff like she can relax because her business is working, she can pay the bills, book that vacation, etc. A relaxed woman is someone that can now provide a sexy service.  
Be a gentleman, pay up front in a nice card, watch your own time, give HER a massage, book 90 min or more, use a nail file, shower.....all these things can relax you date and lead to better service and an unforgettable time.
The sex is a bonus is my motto.

GaGambler402 reads

I think it's great that a guy with as much experience as you can come here and give such sage advice to the rest of us poor saps that have been fumbling around for decades without the benefit of your vast wealth of knowledge on the subject.

BTW, It's so cute you have a "motto" Do you think you could help me come up with one?

How about "Don't listen to morons"???

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triage297 reads

many providers provide this service. providers can be nymphomaniacs too

I think many girls get burnt out a little, perhaps due to volume.  The girls I've known who really disliked their work were generally high volume providers.  And yes, some of them truly dislike the job and even their clients.  But we are not all like that.  Some ladies are truly in this for the love of the game as much as the money.  Sure not every client is a peach, but enough are.  The anticipation of meeting someone new, the thrill of having sex with a stranger, these can be a positive attraction.  Also, some of you gentlemen who practice the hobby regularly have learned a few tricks and are pretty good lovers.

In any event, I'm not sure how much it should matter whether the girl actually loves having sex with you, as long as she makes you feel like she does, and you have a great experience, that's all that really counts, no?

Maybe it's because I follow the mantra of stick with well reviewed providers but I have been with very few ladies that didn't seem to "really love sex". If they didn't they put on a good show of it and really, what would be the difference and why would you care?

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