I don't know if this situation is fairly common or if it is a function of location. It seems that booking a session with a local LA lady will often result in a cancellation (often last minute), tho I have been fortunate that I have only encountered one NCNS so far. I suspect that some of these cancellations are due to her finding a monger willing to pay for a longer appointment, though this can never be proven, only suspected. OTOH the visiting ladies, who have a far bigger vested interest in making back the $$$ that they have expended on their visit, are much more reliable and have never cancelled or NCNS'd on me.
I guess I lament the fact that many of the local providers seem to have no problem at all cancelling in lieu of bigger fish. Or they figure that it doesn't cost them anything to cancel if they just don't feel like getting up on the day of the session.
Maybe other pooners have not run into this much, or have had the opposite happen - lots of touring gals canceling while the homegirls are very dependable.
I'm curious to hear of other hobbyists experiences.
I guess I lament the fact that many of the local providers seem to have no problem at all cancelling in lieu of bigger fish. Or they figure that it doesn't cost them anything to cancel if they just don't feel like getting up on the day of the session.
Maybe other pooners have not run into this much, or have had the opposite happen - lots of touring gals canceling while the homegirls are very dependable.
I'm curious to hear of other hobbyists experiences.
you touched on it. touring ladies usually use an incall. local outcalls are too easy to flake on
I guess I lament the fact that many of the local providers seem to have no problem at all cancelling in lieu of bigger fish. Or they figure that it doesn't cost them anything to cancel if they just don't feel like getting up on the day of the session.
Maybe other pooners have not run into this much, or have had the opposite happen - lots of touring gals canceling while the homegirls are very dependable.
I'm curious to hear of other hobbyists experiences.
Although most of the cancellations I've had were for illness or Aunt Flo, which I consider legit reasons to cancel, I think that local girls will be more inclined to think you will still be there next week for them so its okay to cancel, whereas touring girls are trying to establish regulars in each city that are on their tour, so business will be good each time they return. Touring girls also time their visits to each city around their menstrual cycle, so they don't have dead time paying for a hotel room while they're visiting somewhere. Overall, I would have to agree with your point.
I have only done local providers....
I have been bumped for a weekend appointment in the Bahamas. That's certainly not unreasonable. I wished her bon voyage and she showed me the pictures when she got back. Topless at the beach!
On the other hand, when I scheduled an entire evening or morning ... another lady bumped a one hour appointment and rescheduled that one. There was notice... That's happened a few times.
Several different ladies....
From my experience - I suspect that if your appointment is worth more money - your probability of getting a cancellation will drop.
I SUSPECT that with traveling providers - they get fewer emergency pussy calls with better offers.
Of course, in LA.... you have special circumstances. Suppose someone wakes up and wants a day at his/her pad in the Colony. She'll be on PCH so fast it will make your head spin... feel fortunate she remembered to call you...
Now - if they have been canceling on you AND you have been booking a day at your beach house in Malibu.... I can't help you...
A local girl can still work her day job, if she has one, so the pressure of having to make money from hooking is less, which certainly can affect her decision making process.
Having spent on a hotel, air, food, cab, etc is all the more reason the touring gal cant as easily cancel.
Also remember that when a gal is at home, she has more possibilities of legit reasons to cancel e.g. caring for her sick child, parent, day job comes a calling with en emergency, etc.
But of course you are right that many gals will cancel bc they received a better offer. It sucks on our end but it is a business after all.
I don't think I've ever had to cancel on someone when touring. Like you say Jack, we have more vested interest in building regulars where we visit, and expense invested in visiting a place and time set aside for seeing clients solely without the distractions of home. It also depends on how professional the lady is I guess. I'd have to be really sick or have missed a flight to cancel a booking on the day.
Once a touring girl actually arrives in town, there's far less likelihood of a cancellation. Some do "postpone" tours due to disappointing pre-bookings, but at least you get a day or more notice. Once in town, they have fewer distractions than local girls.
Local providers, as you said, are more likely to cancel in favor of a bigger fish, personal issues, or just not feeling like working that day (or in your case, they're in the mood for a client with a dick).
OTOH, in my experience, local girls are more flexible if I'm running late or have to cancel same-day and are less prone to clock watching. This is my generalization, not a hard and fast rule.
In any case, last-minute cancellations by either party are almost always BS. ALMOST... I did have a gal send me a selfie from a hospital waiting room to prove her whereabouts.
or it's NCNS so I keep 2 agencies and a few regular as backup. Although it's less frequent, it has also happened with touring ladies. All my appointments are for incall. Most of the time it's in the morning. Reasons for cancellation varied. I don't keep track of them and don't really care if it's true because the end result is the same (the appointment is cancelled). I may still try to see them if I feel like it, but it's more unlikely because it will have to be on a day that I don't mind if it's cancelled again. On days that I really want to see someone, I usually just visit one of my more reliable regulars. I accept it as part of this hobby.
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I've booked with six touring providers, one of whom I've now seen multiple times. Of the five, one was NCNS, one cancelled her whole tour without letting me know, and one stopped all communication the night before the appointment. Of the other three, there's only one I'd see again.
and that the only answers possible for an anecdotal situation are anecdotal or speculative answers.
I say go with your own instincts about your experiences and weight your appointments towards visiting providers... no matter the reasons, they seem to be most reliable for you.
Quite honestly, I've experienced only a very few cancellations (usually with ample advance notice) and only one NCNS since I started in the hobby about 5 years ago; the last was in early 2014. I'd say I've seen quite a few more local providers than touring providers and the cancel/NS rates are about the same.
That might be why.
...but no - none of the cancels were from strippers that I did take-out with 
I don't speak up about you often. But, I do take an interest in what you post, I'm glad you are here. I appreciate all views on p4p.
Well then, it sucks to have that happen. I have been pretty lucky so far. I have had cancellations for physical injuries or illness. But my odds of that happening grows because I repeat with providers and their life happens.
With ladies that I haven't seen, I've only had cancellations by touring ladies who decided to cancel their trips because of not enough business in my city.
I have never had a touring gal to cancel on me..
My touring NCNS / last minute cancels outnumber by local NCNS / last minute cancels. In some cases, I'm pretty sure they just flaked. In other cases, I had the strong feeling that someone else's better offer (longer appointment) did me in.
Hmmm ... I'm actually going over the list in my head ... grrrr. Bringing back memories of annoying inconveniences and disappointments. Touring NCNS is definitely worse for me. Fortunately, on most of those occasions, I was in cities with available backups.
I guess I lament the fact that many of the local providers seem to have no problem at all cancelling in lieu of bigger fish. Or they figure that it doesn't cost them anything to cancel if they just don't feel like getting up on the day of the session.
Maybe other pooners have not run into this much, or have had the opposite happen - lots of touring gals canceling while the homegirls are very dependable.
I'm curious to hear of other hobbyists experiences.
I seem to recall discussion on specific local boards about client cancellation rates and pre-booking.
This varies by city and distance traveled (and the current popularity of each Provider):
- Some Providers will cancel their trips in advance and notify well in advance clients if they haven't pre-booked enough appointments. They just don't want to risk not filling their schedule with short notice dates only.
- Some Providers know the client cancellation rates for different cities (which probably varies by Provider, too). The downside is, that someone worried about too many client cancellations may tend to double book her time to reduce her potential loss. That means pissing off timely,courteous clients (like me) with a late cancel or NCNS. One of my touring NCNSes was, it seems, a popular overbooker. (She NCNSed me more than once!)
- I can vaguely recall posts like: "I love the guys in X! They never cancel on me." "When I tour to Y, I can usually count on 30% of my pre-bookings to cancel on me." And stuff like that.
Local Providers do have more local distractions (family, friends, etc.) that might disrupt their schedule but not the same inflexible travel-related pressures as a touring Provider.
I am very fortunate the only time that I was in the LA area, I saw an amazing young woman who was as gracious as she was hot.
Although I know that there are many beautiful providers in LA, I will see her every time I am in the area.
We do create our own luck, don't we?
First drink is on me if we ever meet, I like your perspective. Stay cool.
Although she never flaked on me, there seems to be a lot things happening in her personal life.
I gave her many many chances and she never so much as offered a simple apology. She even had the gall to PM me here to say that I was being "mean" and STILL never offered an explanation or a simple apology. Then she starts bombing my email with nonsense and STILL no apology or explanation. So she has the time to blow up my email with bullshit but she doesn't have time to make a one sentence acknowledgement or apology? Talk about a petty narcissist. Refusing to take responsibility or being accountable for her rude thoughtless behavior is unacceptable. No I won't give her another chance. If she was having personal issues she could have said that long ago and I would have been very understanding. But she refuses to address her NCNS. Her behavior is bizarre and she is not to be trusted.
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Unless you name names, it's only whining.
Once again, it's a woman that has more balls than 90% of the men.
I completely agree, you aren't being "mean" you are warning the rest of us about the shoddy way you were treated. If she didn't want you talking bad about her, she never should have stood you up, or at the very least, she should have been the one reaching out to you, trying to make it up to you.
Personally, if some BSC hooker starting blowing up my inbox after pulling a NCNS like she did with you, I might find a way to work a warning about her behavior into one of my posts a couple of times a week. but I am kind of a prick that way, I am sure you are much nicer than me and would NEVER do that, right? lol
AAMOF I did post a warning on her latest LA ad about her NCNS so that others could be made aware of her shit behavior. Of course a white knight had to jump in to the fray, but he just wound up looking stupid. Then SHE jumped in and instead of offering me an olive branch to calm the waters she made herself look worse by not only not acknowledging the NCNS, but she tried to be snarky about it. Then, as expected, she had my comment removed. What a piece of work she is.
She's had soooo many opportunities to clear the air and set things right, but she refuses to even acknowledge that it happened. She's delusional. She is one BSC broad, that's for sure.
All I got to say to her is what goes around comes around.
Karma, baby.
It's just like I wish I could reach through the computer and smack every reviewer who starts his review with "She wasn't the girl in the picture, she was 20 years older and 40 lbs heavier, but I figured "what the heck, I am already here""
Dumb fucks, if she is 20 years older and 40 lbs heavier, turn your dumb ass around "at the door" and walk the fuck away. Every time a guy (I say "guy" because I know you would NEVER do this" goes through with a session with a B&S provider, you are reinforcing in her mind that this time of thing is not only acceptable, but profitable. And THAT is why these ROBs keep pulling this shit.
but you got the BSC version of her.
Yes, us tourning girls take a lot of time to plan. We pay for our trips months in advance. So making sure we come to get the few little appointments in a day is very important. Plus we come to have fun and make friends. Our goal is to get you to see us again. So not missing an appointment is very important.
I absolutely positively don't think it's for bigger fish, because they could just schedule the big fish another time. I think it's life. You block off your life for a tour, and it can't interrupt.
I've actually retooled my schedule so that I "tour" Chicago a day and a half each week. It's so much easier to have iron clad backup plans for "life" during a limited amount of time.
(Also, we're expert travelers- there isn't much issue of trying to make up expenses.)