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Ironically, BTC is the better answer.
HitEmWithTheHein 551 reads
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If you really believe in that, then bitcoin is actually the answer (not cash). Every time I get cash, there's a record and wifey can follow the trail. She has done so very successfully in the past. I change up my methods and I still raise suspicions at all the wrong times.  

So why is bitcoin better?  
- Abso-fucking-lutely no paper trail. Anonymous by design - unlike Paypal, gift cards, etc. There's always a gotcha somewhere that may force one/both parties to divulge real, personally identifying information. Not bitcoin, not even close.  
- Neither party is carrying *anything* with them. No cash, gift cards, checks (wtf?), etc. If the police did make an appearance they have no case against you. They cannot prove anything of monetary value was given in exchange for sex acts.
- Because neither of you has a large wad of cash on them, you can't get robbed. You also can't accidentally lose it.  
- To avoid the issue of "Yah but what if the value of bitcoin crashes a day later and the provider hasn't turned BTC into USD yet?" She's fucked right (pun intended)? There's already a solution. The dominant player in the US (coinbase.com) has a new feature that will immediately take incoming BTC transactions and convert them to USD and shove them into your linked bank account. Voila - no currency / trading risk.  

I have wished for a long time that I'd stumble upon a provider offering to accept bitcoin. I'm guessing they don't accept it because 1) It seems complicated (but it's really not any more complicated than setting up PayPal) and 2) Most hobbyists don't get it / don't care / not asking for it.

my back hurts. Are there any ladies that have considered accepting direct deposit? I've heard of several alternative compensation methods for your time... what was the most creative financing package that you've ever offered?

I have a link to it on my site for wishlist purposes but there's also a direct deposit option. Maybe try that :)

I saw this one provider (now retired but her profile is still on here) 3 years ago whom I paid in advance via GreenDot pack (reloadable credit card pack where I give her the serial number so she can verify the funds and load it to her account) . And I know she also offered to be paid via PayPal as well. Only reason I did it is cause she offered a $100 discount off a 2 hour or more session if you paid in advance.

And I know of another woman that accepts venmo as payment.

Posted By: sdottaylor
I saw this one provider (now retired but her profile is still on here) 3 years ago whom I paid in advance via GreenDot pack (reloadable credit card pack where I give her the serial number so she can verify the funds and load it to her account) . And I know she also offered to be paid via PayPal as well. Only reason I did it is cause she offered a $100 discount off a 2 hour or more session if you paid in advance.  
   
 And I know of another woman that accepts venmo as payment.
Venmo is owned by PayPal. Both have very clear clauses against using the services against "illegal acts" and there are many reports of SW having their accounts closed and funds withheld from them.

VOO-doo489 reads

But, it's easy for a guy to do a chargeback. I've used a PayPal account with clients I know and trust, but I wouldn't publicize it on my site as an option.  

To the OP: for new clients, I use Visa/Amex gift cards to take deposits. You could do that, or mail her an Amazon gift card as a payment.

Another option open to those I trust, would be to pre-pay my photographer via CC or PayPal for a photo shoot.  

If she's someone you know well (and you're on a real-name basis) maybe you could make a tuition or other bill payment (car? rent?) in lieu of cash donation... or something similar?

I've also used direct deposit, but only with clients I've known for a long time.

an Asian indie that asked me to bring a money order made out to her landlord.  The rent was late.  I've only done direct deposit with one girl that I knew for a year before I did it.  Wouldn't think of doing it for a first date.  Same with credit cards.  They slam your card and what are you going to do?  Contest it with the CC company by writing a detailed report that says you paid for an hour of sex and she didn't show up?  I had enough trouble trying to get an adjustment on a credit card charge when the transmission on a Skoda I rented in Europe froze up.  

triage518 reads

keeping it in your rear pocket is bad for the spine

they think I have an abnormally, flat and wide cock bulging in my front pocket. It's not flat! lol

Don't leave a paper trail.

Words to live long and prosper by.

...What's wrong with CASH?  This subject comes-up at least every month with the same suggestions repeated every time,& still never a good reason not to just use CASH. I am not an individual of great financial means but I put cash aside every week for my hobby budget & I am quite sure 99% of providers would prefer to be paid in CASH, I would like to hear from providers on this subject.

FatVern392 reads

If you are going to use fake money, why not just use credit?

And when using cash, would anyone accept bills that are not USD?

I love privacy and discretion. I don't show my face on my website on any ads. I don't call or text guys out of the blue. I am even wary about emailing them! Why leave a paper trail or use means that a guy can reverse the transaction and get his money back? Whatever happened to just paying cash? I have noticed many small businesses say cash only. No credit cards. No debit. I know it costs extra money to pay for machinery to process the payments and many of us go in not realizing that Uncle Sam is going to want his share of the taxes from that money. You must give your full name and social security number so it's not like it's anonymous. Same with Paypal. You put out your real name and info and they ask that you add either a bank account or credit card and I am pretty sure you must also render your social. Who wants to deal with all of their personal information just being out there like that??? Cash is king! Whether you pay taxes or not well whatever lol. Walk in and put the cash on the table. No issues of wifey finding out or Uncle Sam knocking on the hotel door or anything or a fella feeling particularly deceitful and calling up Paypal or the credit card company and saying his card was swiped from him unknown and the charges are fake. That could lead to robbed provider powering up her anger and who knows how the hell that could end! I don't see what the issue is with bringing dead presidents. I have a client that shares his Paypal with his wife so clearly that's out. So he brings me cash. I am happy and so is he especially after we are done. :) To the OP: Wear a back brace or tell Ben to walk in himself. Boom!

HitEmWithTheHein552 reads

If you really believe in that, then bitcoin is actually the answer (not cash). Every time I get cash, there's a record and wifey can follow the trail. She has done so very successfully in the past. I change up my methods and I still raise suspicions at all the wrong times.  

So why is bitcoin better?  
- Abso-fucking-lutely no paper trail. Anonymous by design - unlike Paypal, gift cards, etc. There's always a gotcha somewhere that may force one/both parties to divulge real, personally identifying information. Not bitcoin, not even close.  
- Neither party is carrying *anything* with them. No cash, gift cards, checks (wtf?), etc. If the police did make an appearance they have no case against you. They cannot prove anything of monetary value was given in exchange for sex acts.
- Because neither of you has a large wad of cash on them, you can't get robbed. You also can't accidentally lose it.  
- To avoid the issue of "Yah but what if the value of bitcoin crashes a day later and the provider hasn't turned BTC into USD yet?" She's fucked right (pun intended)? There's already a solution. The dominant player in the US (coinbase.com) has a new feature that will immediately take incoming BTC transactions and convert them to USD and shove them into your linked bank account. Voila - no currency / trading risk.  

I have wished for a long time that I'd stumble upon a provider offering to accept bitcoin. I'm guessing they don't accept it because 1) It seems complicated (but it's really not any more complicated than setting up PayPal) and 2) Most hobbyists don't get it / don't care / not asking for it.

Some have a gotcha! where they don't require any info to deposit, but do when you want to spend/transfer it.

I don't want to post a list of good ones because it could easily change, but definitely do your research.

...You still have to buy your BTC with dollars or credit & you have to find a provider willing to accept & willing to cash BTC, & your reasons for not using CASH are totally bogus. You must have some stake in trying to convince others in the hobby that BTC is a better method to pay for sensual companionship, I believe most of us are smarter than that.

FatVern355 reads

They don't accept it because bitcoin is for idiots.

 
If it isn't backed by petrol it isn't money.

Why not Paypal or western union?

They tried to steal my money claiming that I was transferring money for nefarious purposes (Who, me?).

I had to hire a lawyer to sue them to get my money back, part of which deal is that I would never use them again.

On top of all that, their service sucketh.

Because if Paypal suspects that it is money for adult services they will freeze the account. Also once the man pays, he can turn around and cry fraud. 9.9 times out of 10 he will get his money back meaning you just treated him to a freebie! I know a fellow provider that had her money freezed up for months because her client wrote (there is an area where you can write a message) Thanks for the great time. She had to fight with them and say it was something else but in the meantime for about 3 or 4 months she did not have access to that money. I have sold on Ebay and even then when it was legitimate transactions non adult related, my money was basically in limbo until the buyer received his goods! They are very strict with that. I would advice strongly against Paypal for adult entertainment.

Was wondering how folks felt about that, wether google wallet or squarecash are a good option.

I myself have used paypal in the past, but I have a business account and use the paypal.me feature, not the personal paypal, and it's worked out pretty well. (Though it's not something I would do on the regular or for new clients.)

I once had someone offer to pay my bills instead of pay for the session, they were very vehement on this, I thought they were trying to scam me so I said pre-pay, and they actually did. Turned out they did this on the regular, picked a random domina & paid her bills. Worked out, no problems. It was also nice to see money as money for a short while, instead of rent, electricity, upkeep, makeup, supplies etc.  

So, in my own experience and others, I think most providers are open to alternative payment, as long as it's legit/there is a failsafe.

20 or fewer bills is not really that many to negotiate.

Perhaps you dig the ultra expensive type? In that case, have a member of your entourage deliver the cash for you.

For providers, anonymity is very important. Cash is definitely my preferred form of payment because it's not traceable on my end. But I heard of other girls using Venmo or PayPal, which functions similarly to direct deposit. If you're looking to find an alternative mode of payment, I would suggest those two options and see if it's agreeable.

I know of a couple providers who use it. Couldn't be easier.

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