STOP it already! I get that the political system in this county is in shambles.... I know you have the right to do it but do you think that potential dates what to hear you go on and on bashing the person they voted for. It's not good business to alienate half of you customer base. I won't let you know where I stand on my side of the fence, but I am traveling to Vegas in a few months and follow ladies on twitter who are on my "short list" day after day I am making the list shorter due to the political info and bashing they are doing. One it is not attractive to want to spend time with someone who could spend most of date time getting on your soap box and explainig why their candidate is so great and your candidate sucks. That would be no fun and the whole hobby thing is supposed to be a fun distraction.
I am not blaming one side on this This issue is on both sides, left and right. Both are bitching about the other constantly.
If u want to bitch that's fine,but then don't bitch when you are not getting any dates!
Think if it this way if you area hungry Boston fan in Boston and u see 2 hot dog carts on different corners, one guy is wearing a red sox jersey and the one on your corner is wearing a Yankees jersey. BE CAREFUL CROSSING THE STREET!
Think about it.
Thanks
I am not blaming one side on this This issue is on both sides, left and right. Both are bitching about the other constantly.
If u want to bitch that's fine,but then don't bitch when you are not getting any dates!
Think if it this way if you area hungry Boston fan in Boston and u see 2 hot dog carts on different corners, one guy is wearing a red sox jersey and the one on your corner is wearing a Yankees jersey. BE CAREFUL CROSSING THE STREET!
Think about it.
Thanks
Yes to this. I deleted Twitter from all my devices. The silence is wonderful.
Maybe you shouldn't waste your time looking at their Tweets?
Just saying...
Thank you twitter for letting me look behind the curtain.
And their calendar posts. As for comments, if they're salacious, I read them. Political comments don't effect whether I'm going to see a lady because I generally skip over them. I won't pass up the chance to fuck a hottie because she has a point of view.
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It is not touting a candidate or a movement but rather stating what is wrong economically when provider or client get politics mixed up with the hobby.
Definitely the hobby should be a politically free zone.
It is not touting a candidate or a movement but rather stating what is wrong economically when provider or client get politics mixed up with the hobby.
Definitely the hobby should be a politically free zone.
I AGREE!!!! I had to tell a person that wanted to see me again, if he can leave the political and how he feels his own kind (white men,) aren't number 1 anymore LOL! Leave that at home. He's preaching to the wrong choir with that shiiiiiiiiit.
I no longer watch award shows because I want to be entertained, not listen to the opinions of celebrities.
Unless of course she feels strongly enough about it that she doesn't mind running off potential clients who don't share her political views.
If I think there is even a 1% (see what I did there) chance I am going to get a lecture instead of a blow job, I am going to take a huge pass on any political activist masquerading as a hooker.
Ditto on award shows, I don't want to listen to their opinions even when I agree with them.
Allan is right on. Let's keep politics off Twitter etc.
Major turn off.
I thought about it.
The girls, for the most part, don't get on your Board and bitch.
That does not make the feelings go away. Girls are not going away. What they really feel is not going away.
The girls have Twitter.
Are you saying they need to make a couple of Twitter accounts;
1. REAL (to connect w ppl who r the same) and 2. FAKE(to get the sale) ?
Or,
maybe you should just not visit Twitter.
I'm not sure which "Board" your referring to do, but girls do get on boards and bitch. And twitter, other social media , there videos, (if there pornstars), are all ways i use to vet them. If you bitch, or are inclined to have a particular point of view that I don't happen to agree with, then I move on.
This is business, I pay you for your time, I pay you to leave, I don't pay you for your views......
yet girls views may be stomped out in some places and certainly controlled on this Board,
they are human beings ultimately , with some strong points of view that can be looked at,
without the need to Control how they think.
The best providers Never talk about what They want when it's Your Time.
Demanding them to not tweet what's on their mind is the same reason some
FAKE an orgasm.
For your EGO and the Sale.
Fuck my ego. What I want is real feedback so they don't HAVE to fake an orgasm.
In the meantime, I suppose I wouldn't ask her to not talk about her opinions where she wants to. But I'd just not look at it online wise speaking, and in person I'd just as soon she didn't bring it up. I'd want her to be intelligent enough to have her opinion, but at the same time, it's like I came here to relax and forget all that; sort of like when I watch a sitcom. Even if her ideas lined up with mine, it's mood killer territory I'd rather not go into.
Now, after a couple visits, when there's a connection, sure go for it, let's have a real conversation. I wouldn't ask her to not talk about it online, if that's what she wants to do, but I agree with the OP that there's a lot of guys who'd pass based on that. Right, wrong or otherwise, there are many guys who'll pass because of it. Not saying that's me, and that's a business decision each lady must make.
... and not about what comes out of their mouths.
The girls, for the most part, don't get on your Board and bitch.
That does not make the feelings go away. Girls are not going away. What they really feel is not going away.
The girls have Twitter.
Are you saying they need to make a couple of Twitter accounts;
1. REAL (to connect w ppl who r the same) and 2. FAKE(to get the sale) ?
Or,
maybe you should just not visit Twitter.
Maybe the women who share their political views would be perfectly happy not to see someone who voted for the other side.
Getting to know more about the individual. For some that connection is important. In your case, it seems clear that you don't want worldly educated women with opinions, in which case start eliminating those women.
It is Not Your place to tell women how to to act in public.
If you are offended simply move on to the next!
Isn't America Great again?!
Kisses
Elle Vegas (the Sexy Swinger)
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If it was a couple and the woman acts a fool, it's the man's job to reign her in.
It is Not Your place to tell women how to to act in public.
If you are offended simply move on to the next!
Isn't America Great again?!
Kisses
Elle Vegas (the Sexy Swinger)
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yes,
there are females that like to wear a Collar.
some do not.
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It's the woman's responsibility to tame her man too.
It's called working together. It's what makes a civilization.
Oh and free speech is still a thing...At least on twitter...for now...
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My comment had nothing to do with free speech(hope I spelled that right) I'm talking about people who are in hetero relationships, and if the woman acts like a nut in a public place, the male half needs calm her down, before they both end up having to deal with an issue neither wants to deal with.
But hey, hear what you want hear.
"My comment had nothing to do with free speech(hope I spelled that right) I'm talking about people who are in hetero relationships, and if the woman acts like a nut in a public place, the male half needs calm her down, before they both end up having to deal with an issue neither wants to deal with. :
Speaking from experience there fat man ?
MfSD>>>>
I've got more sense to know not to get envolved with those kind of women. You are thinking of Ray Rice.
"I've got more sense to know not to get envolved with those kind of women. "
What kind of women do you get involved with then fat man ? Deaf/mute chubby chasers ?
MfSD>>>>
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Low hanging fruit, as if that's an insult. Especially coming from a shill, trying to pass as a reviewer.
Looks like you can't even post a subject line on the first attempt.
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TER Didn't approve of my first adjective for you if I recall correctly. And the fact you're now envious of me is worrisome indeed.
...this isn't really a freedom of speech issue, it's an issue of keeping the customer happy! As donbecker suggests below, a lot of guys (your customers) don't want to discuss politics while we're with you. Sure, if the topic of politics comes up, or any topic for that matter, it's certainly appropriate to respond. However, as with ANY service provider, it just makes good business sense to avoid hot-button issues unless/until they're brought up by the customer. If I read something on the providers site that I have a strong disagreement with, I'll probably just move on. While everyone is absolutely entitled to their opinion, I'm entitled to take my business wherever I decide.....and if the lady says something I don't care for, I'm taking my business elsewhere.
"However, as with ANY service provider, it just makes good business sense to avoid hot-button issues unless/until they're brought up by the customer. If I read something on the providers site that I have a strong disagreement with, I'll probably just move on. "
Makes good business sense...to you perhaps (ever been an independent female escort ?).
There's a lot more wisdom in the second sentence.
MfSD>>>>
I'm guessing that was in a previous life? Perhaps more relevant to the OP, I'd be interested in why it is that you disagree with the first sentence that you quoted, that being that "it makes good business sense to avoid hot-button issues" unless brought up by the customer.
"Perhaps more relevant to the OP, I'd be interested in why it is that you disagree with the first sentence that you quoted, that being that "it makes good business sense to avoid hot-button issues" unless brought up by the customer."
I'm not in the habit of telling people how to run businesses that I have no experience or familiarity with as a vendor. Apparently you are. Feel free to reply, but I am done here.
MfSD>>>>
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First, just a point of clarification, I'm not "telling people how to run businesses", I'm merely stating something that is nearly universally accepted as two of the most basic rules of business, one, that the customer is always right and two, when the customer is wrong, refer to rule number one.
I've worked in several service related businesses over the past 20 years or so, first as an employee and now as an owner. Years back, when I was an employee for a service related business, I was speaking to about 30 people as part of my job. I used a former president to illustrate a point. I didn't say the former president was right, wrong, or otherwise, I merely used his experiences as an example. Within a day or two, one of those 30 people called my employer to tell him about what I had said and that he thought I had been disrespectful. The boss called me into his office. He wasn't mad or upset, but he pointed out that politics are a tricky and emotional subject and opinions will vary widely. He also reminded me that this person could easily take their business elsewhere. He ended the conversation by suggesting that I stick to more innocuous subjects when talking to the clients.
We all have freedom of speech. We all have the right to run our business as we see fit. The flip side of that is that the consumer also has rights, including the right to take his business elsewhere.
...OMG ol' FatVern is at it again trying to convince the rest of the world that he really is that stupid, we all need to realize that he is just a TROLL because nobody could be that stupid.
I don't want to talk politics when I see a provider. If she advertises her Twitter feed on her site, and I go to Twitter and see a bunch of political talk, my concern is that she's going to talk politics if and when I go to see her. So, I figure it's best not to see her.
I don't understand why people in business (providers, performers, or any other business) want to lecture others about their political beliefs. Why turn off half your potential customer base? I've almost never talked politics with customers, even with those with whom I probably agree.
If you want to talk politics on your Twitter feed, keep the link off your site and your TER profile.
Beware: Women are SCARY - they actually HAVE opinions (gasp!) and may even VOICE those opinions (yikes!). These woman may even DARE to DISAGREE with you (Fuck, what is this world coming to?). The best thing for you to do is to AVOID ALL WOMEN (more fun ladies for me) and scurry, scurry, scurry away if you are a weak-minded little boy.
...and BE CAREFUL CROSSING THE STREET!
They gave their real name at the ballot box, so being all opinionated under their stage name is kind of pointless. And serves no real purpose.
Let's say I don't like being arrested, I'm not going to go out and murder a police officer just to state my opinion. The same logic applies here, none.
Besides when a guy says they value their companions political opinion, he is lying.
I realize this is tongue-in-cheek. But don't be daft. This has nothing to do with being afraid of women with opinions. It's basic customer-relations. There's heavy competition in the provider world, and the reason a client picks one lady or another can be as trivial or arbitrary as he likes the way her lips curl in one picture, or he thinks her name is funny. You never know, he may pass you by because something you tweeted turned him sour.
It doesn't have to be a matter of "I won't bang her because she voted for Trump/Clinton." Could be as simple as he had a negative feeling in association with her picture, which just so happened to be about politics, and didn't with another girl.
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I get the general customer relations point being made. I just don't believe a political tweet is any different than any of the other arbitrary customer selection points you mentioned. Some guys are OK with it, some guys run. As for any other individual characteristic (verbal or nonverbal) we can possibly imagine.
In the end, it's not a business like any other. It's personal. Guys choose gals for a million arbitrary reasons from "she looked like my first girlfriend" to "she shares my kink". I don't think twitter helps or hinders a provider's business, as it enhances a guy's ability to choose as he will.
I think the OP is interesting in that no matter how much guys may maintain that selection is solely based upon "hotness" and appearance, many other factors affect their choices... be it a political tweet, a particular joke or post - choices are personal, and that is not how other businesses (generally) operate.
Of course, none of us have strapped on the stripper heels, ginned up a website and succeeded as our gal-pals have; I suspect the successful gals already know what works and what doesn't... it's a bit presumptuous for any of us to pretend we know their business better than they do.
Like Courtney implied, showing some personality can attract people with whom we will connect, and isn't that a great thing?
While I personally limit political tweets and keep them civil, I've actually had very interesting political discussions during the downtime with those I see. I have some limits to what I can listen to (if someone starts preaching to me that the earth is 7000 years old and that "fact" should be taught in schools, I will not be very receptive!), but most issues are in shades of gray. In the end, I think I learn a little from clients, and they learn a little from me.
Agree: Most of what is on TWITTER is just plain stupid.
Disagree: I'm fine with knowing the politics of a provider I see. If you support "THAT", you're just too ignorant to suck my cock!
If you don't like what I have to say. That will shut me up, AND we'll both be happy. 
FYI: I never discuss politics or religion during an appointment - but I'm still going to DFK and give you a BBBJ, so I'm eligible for a higher performance score. 
lol
Maybe Twitter is just their "venting" outlet. I highly doubt a professional girl would EVER bring up politics while with a client. I know I sure as hell wouldn't!!! I've had a couple clients bring it up while just making small talk and I'm usually just like "I honestly do not affiliate myself with either party" and just leave it at that. I'm not passionate about anything pertaining to politics. I DO care about certain issues, but those are opinions that I keep to myself or discuss with like-minded girlfriends, not clients haha.
Obviously, as business owners escorts are (mostly) free to do any promotion they want.
I also understand that if, as an escort, you are going to 'do' Twitter then you really need to post pretty constantly. And it's super easy to post about politics.
But OP is right. Unless an escort's brand is really built around a political position or a religion (and I can think of at least one fine lady who's persona is a born-again-Christian and ardent Trump supporter and has, though subtly, marketed herself that way for a long time) you are probably better off leaving religion and politics off your work Twitter feed.
Then again, escorting rule one is never take business advice from a client!
It's not good marketing, it's not fun for a client unless he wants to talk about it and instigates the conversation and frankly I agree that this should be a distraction from the real world not a place to air your opinions left right and centre.
Just my opinion of course.
Aside from Mattis for Secretary of Defense which I was stoked about (being USMC) it doesn't make sense to alienate what would probably be around half of your twitter followers.
I have not seen escorts before and only had sugar babies. None of them share my political beliefs--when they brought up politics I changed subjects. Would have welcomed a discussion with a sugar baby who shares my values, but I'm not going ti listen to her political rants when I am the one paying for her companionship. This has nothing to do with GENDER, but has to do with the $$ nature of the relationship. It's for the same reason I don't want to hear a waitress, actor, or whomever I am paying for services to bring up politics--regardless of gender.
I am not seeing any provider to get her vote. I don't care if her stand is right or left. I will politely listen if it's brought up. If it bothers you so much that you don't want to see them then I am more than happy to see them (regardless of their political views). Haha more pussy for us who can ignore it. I feel if tweeting makes her happy then who am I to stop her.
I would recommend you not to read their tweets if they bother you so much. Life is too short to be bothered by such trivial thing.
Try to be Happy!!! 
I have been in the hobby long enough to Know the best sessions I have ever had were with ladies you just "connect" with I would rather avoid ladies who put it out in public that political stuff is an issue. Because let's face it if they are talking about it on twitter it's in their mind under important things I believe in and debate people is a distinct possibility
And for the few that are saying just pick one or there's more for me I'm not that kind a guy. I want to know a little about the person so I know if we are going to have some similarities and attractions to each other attraction goes deeper Than the outside skin!
I've been with women who were knockout "10"'s but had no personality
And the ones that were opposite a good looking 7-8 with the kick ass personality they are the fun ones you want to keep coming back to!
Also note there are sport discussions that happen but they usually are more ball busting than anything most and even I have talked about that stuff in a session, and it is usually fun ball busting. but this political discussion has so much passion behind it the possibility of one or the people taking it too far
Just trying to avoid it all
And what happens when a guy that's very right meets up courtesan that is very left. During dinner the discuss it buit it gets heated. What's the next move???
I hate politics!!!!
Twitter: @GemmaCoreana
I mean... I totally get that ladies have social media but WHY follow them? Why get into their lives
that much? Why even care? It's not just the ladies who feel this way LOTS of civvie women do too. Lots of men are bashing too. People who aren't even citizens of this country have something to say...
why make it your business to say something on the matter here?
The point is they get followed to see their posts of outfits and daily routine (gym) (food) etc. travel where they are going to. There is plenty of info to get a handle on her personality.
The other fact I'm sure most of these women have their stage twitter acct and their real family/friends twitter acct who aren't in the business. That is where the political talk is need to be
I'm just putting it out there to discuss to give the ladies a heads up that it is an unnecessary thing that they should be talking about. This topic causes unessary friction if it is brought up and be comes and sticking point a date is supposed to be fun an not an ounce of stress should be had on either side.
Ladies want you to follow them. Is daily advertising for them. And it helps their friends get in the game by suggestion friends or introducing them when they get in the hobby.
Can you post to Facebook with your location settings turned off.
I actually don't know, I've never had an account.
Lots of ladies post their schedules, special rates, etc. on social media. Are you really unaware of this?
It so happens that often on the same feed with such information is stuff about their personal life, which I don't care about, and various other subjects that interest them, including politics. Which I also don't care about.
As long as you post nudes as well.
I tend to retweet the ladies I like to look at/talk to on Twitter, (along with retweeting a lot of porn).
It costs me nothing to retweet except time. My followers might like it, or not, I really don't care. Have I found and seen providers via Twitter, yes. Coupled with TER it is another tool in the Neverending search to get laid. Paid or not. If I don't like a lady's politics, I simply don't respond to them.
@fridays117
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