The cost of business class or first class seats would make the trip too pricey for me. Business is about three times the price. First class is four to five times the price.
I've already sent her a list of questions, including all I asked in my first post. I was just curious if there's any norm.I'm wondering if there's any sort of standard "bennies" when it comes to taking a provider on a trip overseas (Europe, in this case) for a couple of weeks. If the customer is paying the provider's desired rate and all expenses, is it customary for him to get first class airfare vs. coach, five-star hotel vs four-star, and to provide her with shopping money?
I'm considering a trip, and wondering if there's any customary ways of doing things, or if it's YMMV.
Thanks for any replies
You just might be surprised, if you have a atf or someone you have chemistry with and they want to see the place you are going you might find a very good bargain. Every lady will be different though and they probably would offer different trip rates to different clients so ask a couple that you enjoy spending time with. Don't play one against the other but just ask what they would want for a two week trip to xyz. Europe they might want first class but international flights aren't bad in coach.
I'm considering a trip, and wondering if there's any customary ways of doing things, or if it's YMMV.
Thanks for any replies
Me. I much prefer First class on long flights but unfortunately if I want the vacation then I have to fly coach. Splurge and buy First class tickets for both. I assume she trusts you with her personal information enough to make all the travel arrangements?
In 2014 I flew coach to Paris and New Zealand in 2015 both on pretty new plane s and North American flights seemed to have way less room in coach seating. I am 6'4" and can fly coach, I don't prefer it and try to upgrade as much as possible but to me it's not a deal beaker. Other might be different. Ask, you never know.
Providers that indicate that they are "passport ready" are much more likely to be open to it. Many won't do it without having a regular session first. If you have a provider you've been seeing for a while, you'd want to ask her or someone you get along with.
Most will require first/business tickets for traveling overseas, five/four star hotels and shopping money is appreciated, not necessarily required. her desired rate, will not include travel or accommodation, that is up to you, and dependent on her standards.
When I flew out of country with a client, I received my fee, my travel expenses, my own accommodation/food and a little extra.
TBH, who you should ask is her, not us.
It can be torture in those cramped seats in coach.
I think most gals are OK with a four star hotel.
The cost of business class or first class seats would make the trip too pricey for me. Business is about three times the price. First class is four to five times the price.
I've already sent her a list of questions, including all I asked in my first post. I was just curious if there's any norm.
Including her fee. It may not look so bad then.
For me, nothing wrecks an otherwise fine vacation as having to dread the flight.
Remember: one should save FOR a vacation, not ON vacation.
I had originally booked this trip just for myself . Got a good deal with airfare and nice hotel for two weeks for $1500. With her fee, additional airfare, and hotel upgrades, it's adding $20K+ to the cost of the trip. And that's without going to first class seats.
I don't know what her response will be, but maybe I should figure I'll be trying for this next year. I don't have the income that many here do (although I seem to blow $2000 on a single date pretty easily).
When in Rome, fuck Italian women.
I would skip the American girl and all the other "upgrades" that you don't care about and are only doing for her, and use that same money to have a fuckfest with the local girls. I don't know what country you are headed to, but I can't think of a single country in Europe where you can't fuck as money women as you are physically able for $20,000
I will agree with the others that flying coach all the way "across the pond" is a horrible way to spend a dozen hours or so, but it also goes back to what I was saying that "going native" will save you all these problems as it sounds like you don't give a fuck about whether you ride in the front or the back of the plane.
GaGambler, for a whole lot of reasons this may be my last hurrah, my last chance to take an overseas trip. I really like this provider, and I think we'd have a great time. At my age (10 or so years on you) the sex is as important or even less important than enjoying the woman's company. It would be one of the best experiences of my life, unless something goes wrong.
Your point is taken, though. I've always traveled alone, as there's few people whose company I enjoy, and I'm comfortable being by myself. This young (27 or so) young woman is an exception, as I think I'd have a riot of a time with her. As for seating, it can't be more uncomfortable than riding 500 to 700 miles a day for two weeks on a motorcycle. And I loved that shit. 
and if she is what you want, then that is exactly what you should do.
Personally, I like variety and two weeks with a woman is about eleven days longer than what I like, but that's just me. I do take week long trips to different countries all the time and typically I find
BTW, to which country are you headed?
I couldn't physically make the trip for you, GaGambler. My dick just won't work that long.
I'm going to Sicily. I know that's part of Italy, but the Sicilians don't think of it that way. Sort of like Texans.
I hope you still like this girl after spending two solid weeks with her.
One of the worst trips I've ever had in my life was with a hooker GF that I took to Hawaii for ten days. It was just too much "togetherness" for me to take. We had spent many nights together, but due to her work we had never spent "extended" time together until that trip, It was a fucking nightmare, I sincerely hope your trip is better.
Those are the kind of stories that worry me. Just about every provider says, "I'm like this all the time", but I take that with a spoon of salt.
Personally I am only good for a couple of days with a woman before I start needing some "alone time"
I had a different hooker GF spend a couple of weeks with me at my home a couple of years ago, and this was a girl that I used to spend about 6 nights a week with, but at her apartment not mine, and after two weeks I was literally crawling up the walls, thinking to myself "don't you have someplace to go for a while?" lol
Now hopefully you are wired differently than me and the two weeks will go flying by, but I know a buddy of mine was laughing his ass off at the stupidity of me bringing that other girl with me, and he was proven correct. I hope you have much better luck than me.
Today most US carriers do not have both Business Class and First Class on international flights. On international flights, Business Class is typically the top class -- and FAR better than First Class on domestic flights. My suggestion when flying overseas is to buy a full-fare coach ticket and use frequent flyer miles to upgrade to Business Class. I have been doing this for 20 years and it by far the best value -- being comfortable on a long flight to Tokyo, Hong Kong, or even London or Amsterdam is, to me, far nicer than using the same miles for a free trip to Florida or California.
have visas for several countries. You should ask these type of questions to the lady in question. If you don't have one yet... visit my website and hopefully you will like
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As far as accommodations I expect the same type that I visit and host for my friends. When I travel, I definitely do it in first class. Long flights are too uncomfortable for coach. Shopping money and expenses (food as well) should be included.
I travel to South America with a client last year (since I speak the language) it was easier for us. I make the reservations for flight and hotels. He never travel there and dint know the way around.
Vero,
Staying in a Bedoin camp in Jordan or trekking across the desert in Morocco by Camel. I am not one for staying in Four or Five star hotels and eating at fine restaurants. Just wondering.
My own brother has taken his family to the fifth corners of the globe and lived in yurts, and whatnot.
But after watching the movie The Mosquito Coast with Harrison Ford, I'm sticking to four star resorts, thank you very much.
but to me "roughing it" is staying in a three star resort. lol
It's savage how they end room service at 10.
Yes! However...if you don't know someone well, enough to be truly comfortable with them, it can turn out to be a nightmare. I once went "Wadi Bashing" with an Arabian Sheik who was my client, his entourage, a British aristocrat, and a couple of French providers, at first it was fun, then you notice people's real personalities emerge, and sometimes that is when things go south...Just think out there in the middle of the desert with strangers.....
Great fun when you really enjoy and trust your companion/friend...because then you can really go wild and kinky.....
Sweet naughty kisses,
Frederica
I haven't done trips or multi-day adventures, but I have read on TER ("If you read it on TER, it must be true.") that some escorts insist on a separate room. Some of it is personal time, AWAY FROM YOU!!, so she can call home, answer emails, attend to other personal hygiene matters that most of us guys don't want to see anyway. Some don't want to be seen au naturel without makeup and hair properly done. They are fine with an understanding of time in the sack together but they also might want time in the sack alone. Or just some time away from each other.
If I can find some of the other old discussions, I will post again.
Bon voyage!
I'm considering a trip, and wondering if there's any customary ways of doing things, or if it's YMMV.
I'm considering a trip, and wondering if there's any customary ways of doing things, or if it's YMMV.
Thanks for any replies
Why not just use local talent when you travel. I have gone on a few trips and have had fun flying myself first class and then making arrangements with some of the local beauties. Of course, be careful. Get suggestions from TER and some reputable agencies in the area. I have thought about taking some of my regulars on trips, but the cost can get out of hand.
I think overall it is better to have local talent. Then you can be alone when you want, get variety if you so choose to call a few different ones, no extra hotel or airfare..... They can show you the country better than anyone. Just do research and go from there. No need to have someone for 2 weeks straight unless you know them very well.
You can always do a "ISO" posting on that board and ask for pms about best ladies to contact and then go from there.
There's some great escorts in Milan and Rome. I'm going to Sicily, though, and there's not many, and the pickings are slim. The reason is that Sicily is very conservative culturally and religiously. Also, "la famiglia" is very, very important to Sicilians, as is honor, and dishonoring her family by becoming a prostitute is probably the worst thing a Sicilian woman could do. It would be more honorable to marry a Mafioso.
There's really not many Italian escorts in Italy as a whole. The best looking ones are usually eastern European. On an Italian escort site, of all of the escorts listed, I think I counted 12% as being Italian.
There's an escort in Rome I'm dying to see, if her photos are accurate, but I hate to take a couple days out of my trip to go to Rome and back.
Sounds like you already know this though.
Have you thought about having the Roman provider you fancy join you in Scicily for a couple days? Seems like a nice compromise...
Best of luck!
It is a great city for escorts, although even in Milan there's not many Italian escorts. From a travel perspective, Milan isn't all that interesting.
If I knew the provider in Rome, and liked her, that would be a good compromise. She doesn't speak English, though, and my Italian is limited.
There's not many escorts I fall in "love" with. I find all of them fun to be with, better in performance than I can handle, and usually gorgeous. There's only two who I've had real chemistry with right off the bat, and one has retired. This one is new. She makes me feel young.
Why would you want to take a hooker overseas, you don't think there's hookers over there? I would never want to be stuck with someone out of the country period. Even if it's an ATF I still would not.
I'm pretty sure she wont mind toning down the high maintenance act.
I traveled through Europe with a client for 10 days. The best vacation I ever had. We stayed in beautiful boutique hotels in each city and visited local shops and restaurants and local events in Switzerland, Italy and France. I flew economy on Porter Airline which is a very good airline with great seats.
If you find the right girl than it shouldn't cost you 20k. Find someone that will enjoy the trip/experience and YOU rather than someone worried about flying first class and staying in 5 star hotels.
Just checked your site. Maybe I should go with you.
is if you are not a First Class Air, five star hotel, kind of guy at heart, are you REALLY a good fit with this girl?
Maybe you should take Charlotte instead. Speaking of her and sucking up "just a bit" I always expect the worst when I see a body description of "Athletic" when I check her reviews. Often times the only sport I can imagine the woman competing in is "bon bon eating" lol Charlotte OTOH is EXACTLY what I think of when I think of an "athletic" woman. Ok, I'll stop sucking up now. lol
The other day the provider gave me a price of $10K, which I thought was too low. We agreed on $15. She hasn't said she needs first-class seats or five-star hotels. She's a backpacking type (when she's not all glamoured up). So, something like a Delta Comfort + upgrade may be fine with her. Don't know yet. I'm just trying to learn the ropes.
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Contact a travel agent. If you can be flexible on your dates and routes, they can sometimes get great first or business class tickets for only a little more than coach by using third party outfits that buy up then resell these.
I managed to do that once on a trip to Hawaii, and got RT tickets from Boston for just $1,500/each. That was FC, too.
She also got us a nice five star place for only $450/night.
I would start with looking at the websites of your shortlisted ladies (assuming you have one?)
You'll often be able to take your cue from the basic requirements
Once you have confirmed what the rate will be providers are often open to discussion on the details of travel and expectation once at your destination....not everyone needs to fly business class and may prefer the expense of this be used for/towards something else. I chose to fly coach with a client a few years ago as I preferred to take a diving course instead whilst he was working. Mire recently, I haven't been bothered about flying first class as my flights to other parts of Europe are short and I see it as non-beneficial for me
C xxx
Thanks for the reply. I may offer her a couple of thousand in spending money (or she can just pocket it), and we'll go for an upgraded economy such as Delta Comfort +.
I haven't had a reply from her since she said she'd look over all of my questions. It may be that she's decided not to do it. Or she's just busy. Or absent-minded.
I see a lot of varied responses, theres no right way or wrong way...just whatever both you and the lady of interest is comfortable with.
I love travel..those are my fav types of dates and about as easy going as it gets. Ive done quite a few domestic trips, and two international trips...one with a guy I saw many times before and I stayed with him at his home. The other trip was with a guy who I only had one prior date with...we stayed in a resort, and *gasp!* on any trip Ive been on we shared the same room and bathroom lol I genuinely dont care though if a guy sees what I look like when I wake up so the whole separate everything thing just doesnt mean anything to me.
The only thing I require is my standard daily rate which is the same whether local or traveling, plus airfare and accommodations taken care of. Like I said though, I love to travel and Im pretty adventurous whether with food or things to do so Im probably a lot more laid back about certain details than the norm. Communication is super important though, talk with the lady... make sure both of you are on the same page to avoid any misunderstandings or resentment so that youll both be able to relax and have a great time together.