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I have noticed that nearly all my clients are married men.

I am curious, how many men on here are married and happy but still see an escort whenever a chance arrives

Don't get me wrong, I love the business and the repeat business...lol

But I am curious why?  I eventually would like to marry one day but not sure why anymore..lol

Kim

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Along with noticing a majority of clients are married I would imagine the ladies would also take notice that most are also over 40. Maybe even more over 50?

One of the many reasons maybe this simple:  we old foggies may still have a distinct possibility of scoring with ladies of our generation but ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, IMPOSSIBLE etc... with a young, nubile, fresh, tight 20 somethings maybe even early 30 somethings. That is unless our names are Brad Pitt, George Clooney etc...

My body may have aged but object of my desire and lust stays EXACTLY the same as when I was in my 20s. Can't help it!

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Well maybe not ZERO chance, but if I got the cash, why not increase my odds to 100%!

I like that most men are over 40.  Being a typical girl who did not have a true father figure, I can really appreciate and admire an older man who knows how to treat a woman correctly.

I would say my client % split would be 75% men over 40 and 25% under.  In general the men under 40, although most sweet and considerate, they lack simple little attention to detail things that the older men never take for granted.  Something as simple as a first contact during respectful hours or a polite introduction in an email.  These are things that older men pay attention to.

... but I wasn't; so I did.  And I do.  And in reference to the comment above this  one, though I'm someone between younger and older, tilting a bit toward older, my preference, with an exception or two, is for escorts in their late 30s and 40s - ie much closer to my age

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I'm 35 and single, so no qualms for me if I see someone.  I couldn't see myself seeing a provider if I was married but that's just me.  But I do have many friends that hate their wives, but they don't communicate so that's their own issue.  Just make sure that if you do ever want to get married that you don't say that phrase just before lol.  My one friend did, and she was divorced a year later.  Was so awkward, when 2 months before her wedding she was like, how do you really know if you're in love?

Posted By: kim1993
I have noticed that nearly all my clients are married men.  
   
 I am curious, how many men on here are married and happy but still see an escort whenever a chance arrives  
   
 Don't get me wrong, I love the business and the repeat business...lol  
   
 But I am curious why?  I eventually would like to marry one day but not sure why anymore..lol  
   
 Kim

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Hey-Hold up a minute !  You don't have to "Hate" your wife to want to see an escort !!!!

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then most males will turn elsewhere to have their needs met. I haven't "gotten any" at home in over 20 years.

I am so thankful for the many women I have shared BCD time with.

I am getting  a lot of PM stating the same. I wonder if women plan to become that way, or it is just nature taking it's course?

it could be because,

          the husband lets his body grow and looses his desire to please.

The woman just doesn't want sex, normal nor oral, nor give oral except on certain occasions.  Then escorts become a guy's only release other than self stimulus.  He'll, if my wife pleased me even once more per month, I probably wouldn't see providers!  But once a month (if that) is too little for me.I want more.  Hell, I wanna make her cum til she begs me to stop!  She just doesn't have the drive.

I  was married for 32 years. I discovered that there are a lot more forces pulling a relationship apart than keeping it together.  The old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" is very true. Somewhere along the line one party or the other will develop a feeling of resentfulness. Once that is in a relationship it's over. Intimacy is done. Which starts a feedback loop. So IMO thats why you see a lot of married older guys. Plus we are horny bastards.

Im 39, my wife and I are going through very tough times  
Young kids , work issues and problems , she pisses me off  
On every other day bases ( I'm sure it works both ways ) so I go out and fuck on the side I
Guess to retaliate.  I would fuck much more often but im on the  
Budget lol .  Bottom line is once that spark in the relationship is gone  
I am not sure if people can last together .  
For example the only thing keeping me around is  
Really my kids other wise I would have gotten the hell
Out of this crazy relationship.  I feel really bad leaving my kids  
They are such innocent souls 5&6 , my father dumped me when I was  
1 so I would hate to do the same to them cause I know how much I was hurt growing up
With no dad .  

Posted By: sympathyforthedevil
I  was married for 32 years. I discovered that there are a lot more forces pulling a relationship apart than keeping it together.  The old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" is very true. Somewhere along the line one party or the other will develop a feeling of resentfulness. Once that is in a relationship it's over. Intimacy is done. Which starts a feedback loop. So IMO thats why you see a lot of married older guys. Plus we are horny bastards.

I hope you keep it civil in front of the kids. Otherwise, divorce and share custody. Some people are capable of  better parenting when they're fulfilled and happy. You don't have to be there every day for your children to be happy, healthy souls...and if you and the wife are constantly at each other it's damaging them anyway.

That is another thing I've heard.  It is much easier to break up than stay together.
How weird is it that we as human's spend so much energy trying to profess our love and devotion, only to get it and get sick and tired of each other

You found your mate then you stop courting. Stop being lovers and become parents and business partners. Some figure it out but in an increasingly crazy world with much more access to distractions outside your home it gets harder to stay together.

Posted By: kim1993
That is another thing I've heard.  It is much easier to break up than stay together.  
 How weird is it that we as human's spend so much energy trying to profess our love and devotion, only to get it and get sick and tired of each other

Before marriage most desks up for their SO, go on dates, talk as often as possible about life, desires, goals and more. The court there parter. Many are adventurous in bed. But after marriage the prise is won so to speak and life pulls both in different directions. Some people hold grudges and living with someone exaggerates flaws. Resentments can build if the work isn't put in.

It takes work and honesty to keep love strong. Love is an action. It is so easy to forget that. I know that as I was so guilty of that. Luckily both my wife and I  pulled or collected heads out of our asses I'm time to save our marriage. Six years ago we were so damn close to divorce it wasn't funny. The love was still there but sonly was a lot of hurt and we both let other things get before our marriage. Marriage is work but I think it is worth it.

I'm single and have no desire of getting married ...I'm too far gone. LOL  I also got tired of playing the dating game with civvies, so the hobby has fitted nicely into my lifestyle.

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Posted By: TheKarateKid
I'm single and have no desire of getting married ...I'm too far gone. LOL  I also got tired of playing the dating game with civvies, so the hobby has fitted nicely into my lifestyle.
Agreed.

Once you get into the pay to play game it's difficult to meet and date ladies the traditional way.

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I'm married but at no time in my life has the desire for variety ever ebbed even slightly.

I think being "unhappy" is an excuse, a justification for what is really just a natural urge that some guys don't want to admit to -- that they'd be unfaithful even if everything was perfect at home, if they had the chance.

It is often said the best predictor of unfaithfulness is opportunity.

Whose wife are you? Or better yet why are you on this type of board? Some guys are how you said but others are unhappy. A guy's wife loses her interest in sex and refuses to give him some, that means that he should retire his dick? That's not fair! He talks to her and she says hell no no way! You ain't getting no more. Then what shall he do? Just go on in life not getting any heat? I do not think it's right or fair. My opinion.

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I think we both said "some guys" so we can both be right.

And if you do marry and you catch him fucking another hooker behind your back, would that bother you? Would that be cheating, from your persepective? These are all things you should consider but I cant tell you how much consideration you should give it before saying I do.

Of course it would bother me, that is why I ask the question.

However, I don't judge why people choose to live their lives certain ways, just as I would not liked to be judged.

But I do always try to learn and understand.

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I'm married.  My wife never had any interest in sex... or any other intamicy (touching, kissing hugging, cuddling).  Then it went from once a year to zero (4 years).  
If my wife had any interest in sex, I would never have hobbied.  I had a choice of celibasy or going outside.  I'm not ready to be celibate.

Why the hell did you get married.  At least I  had 10 years of fun.

Posted By: shudaknownbetter
I'm married.  My wife never had any interest in sex... or any other intamicy (touching, kissing hugging, cuddling).  Then it went from once a year to zero (4 years).    
 If my wife had any interest in sex, I would never have hobbied.  I had a choice of celibasy or going outside.  I'm not ready to be celibate.      

Posted By: sympathyforthedevil
Why the hell did you get married.  At least I  had 10 years of fun.
Posted By: shudaknownbetter
I'm married.  My wife never had any interest in sex... or any other intamicy (touching, kissing hugging, cuddling).  Then it went from once a year to zero (4 years).    
  If my wife had any interest in sex, I would never have hobbied.  I had a choice of celibasy or going outside.  I'm not ready to be celibate.      

 
Why did you get married then? You had to know that being married to a woman with no desire for intimacy of any kind it would be a life of extreme masturbation. I know about being in love but damn.

Why in the world did you marry her? I get that some people are "A Sexual", but most people consider sex to be a very important part of a healthy relationship. Did you expect her to change and turn into a nymphomaniac?

Posted By: shudaknownbetter
I'm married.  My wife never had any interest in sex... or any other intamicy (touching, kissing hugging, cuddling).  Then it went from once a year to zero (4 years).    
 If my wife had any interest in sex, I would never have hobbied.  I had a choice of celibasy or going outside.  I'm not ready to be celibate.

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Posted By: shudaknownbetter
I'm married.  My wife never had any interest in sex... or any other intamicy (touching, kissing hugging, cuddling).  Then it went from once a year to zero (4 years).    
 If my wife had any interest in sex, I would never have hobbied.  I had a choice of celibasy or going outside.  I'm not ready to be celibate.
Yes, I think she is asexual.  She was deceptive or I would not have married her.  During the dating time... she had children 9 & 7 who had to be worked around & she didn't allow sleep overs.  
Once married, there began a string of excuses...  classic avoidance...   including the 7 yo who I'm certain felt threatened by the possibility of a new baby to threaten her status.  (She didn't know that was not possible.)  Wife was more than happy to accept kido's interferance... instead of finding other times & places for adult time.            

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But someday your life will end.  

Ask yourself, "If I die today. Will I have any regrets?"  

Divorce her and move on if you're not happy. There is nothing better than being single and doing what (and who) you want, when you want - and not having to discuss it first.  Life is good for us single mongers.  

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There was considerable lack of honesty...  

If I was happily married, I would have nothing to do with the Hobby (except maybe post here). Of course I am not attached, and I am going to be honest here, I like the freedom I have.  

I think it is very possible to be happily married and partake in the hobby. There is different aspects that need to be fulfilled and no one person can do it all. Plus, some people just like variety or no hassles in getting laid. Providers are ready to go. We don't have to clean up after you or be around you all of the time, which can possibly make a wife not want to put out lol. I am not a wife, I don't need him to take the garbage out, run errands, etc.... I am just here to have a great time for the time we are together.

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No sex at home from the wife. Isn't that the reason for nearly all the married guys?

I had a thoughtful conversation about this at the end of a very good session, and the lady listened and said "When are women going to figure it out? If you're not fucking your husband, someone else is."

The fact that most of my clients are married.. even better. I don't have to worry about them getting in my personal life. They want discretion and that's exactly what I like and Im willing to offer.  

Been married already, and from my experience it happens in almost all marriages, that's why im back to the single life!  

Why? because couples get tired, bored, get used to the monotony.  
However, there is a psychological difference between having an affair and seeing a lady in our business. It isn't about ego, or admiration, or conquest. It is often a cold and emotionless transaction... and if keep my friends wife's happy and I get return customers... I'm happy with that too!

She’s ill, and doesn’t have the energy anymore.

Generations on end have resented the luckiest guys. Kings, Princes, Sheiks, Rock Stars, Athletes, Politicians, Movie Stars, etc. For the first time since the beginning of mankind, the average mojojos get to join in on all the fun.

Grew up in a repressive religion, and didn’t get to have fun like my high school buddies. You ladies are my high school make ups. After graduation, it’s on to college make ups.  

First full on sex experience was with an escort. The escort mentality seared itself onto my brain. The escort world is something I just have to have.  

First playful sex experience was with the neighborhood girl down at the tree after dark. She showed me her pussy, and I got a slight taste. The idea of secret sex seared itself onto my brain.  

If only those church girls would have put out, my life would have been completely different.

Church girls did indeed put out! Actually one time during service the girl that I went with (she was a senior in high school. I was a fresh man) disappeared with her boyfriend during the service. When it was about over she came back. Church was dismissed and we got in the car. Immediately I noticed the strong smell of pussy! OMG I was gagging. I looked at the girl and she had a very guilty look on her face. I asked, can you please put the windows down please??? They did. The girl looked shamed but was smiling at the same time. She had sex with her boyfriend while service was going on.  

I too was a church girl that put out. My boyfriend gave me my first orgasm at age 17 through oral. We had learned in church oral was bad and we would go to Hell for it. I refused to let any guy do it then my boyfriend, when I got one, convinced me to. Even with my disdain of it I let him and came hard. I didn't even know what happened. I was hooked after that. It escalated to intercourse, anal, oral on him, sex outside, in the car, role playing, sex in shower, etc. One I directed him to a warehouse area where we could have intercourse. Afterwards we were leaving with a cop car following us. As my boyfriend pulled into my yard, the blue lights went on!!! He approached us and told us he followed us from the warehouse area due to the high rate of thefts at night! He started questioning us but separately. I was stuttering and stammering so he went to my then boyfriend. He told the truth lol but the worst part was my mom coming out asking what was going on OMG! I prayed the office would not tell her well your daughter and her boyfriend were fucking in a warehouse area. He said I just pulled them due to speeding. My boyfriend was a speeder. I was so relieved I nearly peed myself. As he left he said, find another place for next time, ok. OK officer!!!!!  

So yeah in my neighborhood church girls put out. :)

Yeah, an old atf, who was in the same repressive religion, spoke of getting laid behind the pulpit after church with the pastor’s son. Just didn’t happen in my area.

Question. As a freshman girl, how did you know what sexy pussy smelled like? Or was it just too obvious?

I hope to make it to FL one day. But if I don’t, I’m going to hell too. We’ll trade more cool stories there.

as soon as I got in the car it just screamed VAGINA!!! I knew I smelled it, put two and two together then looked at her, looked at him and then remembered she disappeared for a long while. Right in the car during church. Wow! Come to Florida lol and avoid eternal damnation!!!! :) :) :D

You can save me from hell with your new philosophical religion? I’ve heard of Feng Shui, but I’ve never heard of Feng Shai. If you have a big boob baptism, I’m in.  

If you knew something was ‘fishy’, I wonder what your friend’s mom thought.

I was married and stayed faithful, other than a few HJs in strip clubs. After getting separated and then divorced, I jumped into the P4P party with both feet and had a great time. Now I have a civvie girlfriend and I'm not seeing escorts any more. I used to look down on men who were unfaithful, but after a marriage that became sexless, I'm a lot more sympathetic. You live, you learn.

Each for 16 years.  I was monogamous in the first and actually had no desire to go outside.  The sex was great and often, even when the rest of our relationship was falling apart. Grudge sex can be awesome.  
In the second marriage, we started out hot and heavy.  I'd fly to visit her and she'd blow me while I was driving from the airport.  
But, eventually things changed.  She lost her desire through menopause and I had an injury that changed what I needed to enjoy sex.  She wasn't willing to help me.  
Eventually, I lost my desire to be around her and even she said she really didn't want to give me a birthday blow job, or any sex at all.  Didn't have sex for two years.  

I decided I was done with the marriage and started seeing providers while still living with her for 9 months. Eventually,   I moved out and I'm  planning on living by myself from now on . The divorce went through  about a month ago and  I really like living by myself.  I've continued to see providers because I've been able to have the sex I've only dreamed about and be able to go home by myself.  
I'm in my mid 50's and I don't have a need to procreate. And I have no desire to be monogamous anymore.   But, I've been able to have civvie women friends that I don't have a desire to have sex with. And I get almost enough sex with providers that I've gotten to know and really enjoy.

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I'm either 100% in a relationship or I'm not. There is no grey area.

If I found someone tomorrow who could match my efforts then all of this would disappear.

who has --more than a decade ago-- lost all interest in sex. She is 60 and still attractive, he is 75, still horny in good health working full time, physically very active.
What is he to do?  
He can meet lovely bright women who are skilled in seduction and who seem passionate.  Some are in their thirties some in their 50s, all are great company and provider greats sex.  
Little mystery here.
He can live a life of frustration and resentment, he can break up a happy marriage to a woman he loves, he can insist his wife "does her duty" with no interest on her part (in my case he really can't because he can't even get excited in such a setting.) or he can enjoy the company of some exceptional woman from time to time.

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I'm happily married in my mid 60's and still have fairly frequent satisfying sex with my wife of 30+ years. I visit escorts about once or twice a month for 2 or 3 hours a visit.  

I'm just a horny bastard who love meeting and having sex with beautiful, smart, sexy younger women.  

My wife doesn't know what I do but I suspect she suspects but never asks me. I'm super discrete, money is not an issue and I have enough hobbies and work activities that my time away is not noticed.  

My seeing escorts does not change my feeling for my wife, in fact, since I've started seeing escorts, about 10 years ago, I am happier in my marriage and a better husband.  

This may simple be rationalization, I will admit, but it works for me.

My statement was a bit "Strong"

    Free the Genitals!

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If you fuck someone today, or even three people today, but then you die tomorrow, that least person was the person you fucked for the "rest of your life" lol

Eventually I will fuck the last person I am ever going to fuck, but quite frankly I hope that day is decades in the future.

but yes, every time I think of "this is the ONLY person I am ever going to have sex with for the rest of my life" any delusions I have about ever getting married again about go flying out the window.

In my first marriage, I went back to the hobby because my wife lost interest in sex.  I soon found that the hobby was more satisfying than monogamous sex anyways.  My first wife divorced me partly on account of my hobbying, which in hindsight was no big loss, (except for the money), and it allowed me to meet my second wife, who was an escort I met (now retired) and approves of my hobbying, especially as we live far apart and only get together a few times a year.

I suppose marriage has its points, and if wanting to raise kids, that's a big plus; but don't feel like you have to do it because everyone else is getting married, or some other silly reason.

+1 on the don't feel like you have to do it because everyone else is getting married.  
Marriage is appropriate for some at certain stages of life. And so is monogamy. But, when it has lost it's usefulness and thrill, it is no longer worthwhile .

What is appropriate for me is being honest with myself and a partner.  

As my last ex asked me "Is it that you want a different woman?" My answer was "No, not A different woman.I want to live by myself and I want many different women!"

I'm not looking for a replacement for a committed monogamous relationship.

The wonderful ladies here make my life fun and manageable.
 

all things that can change over a lifetime spent with one person. I hold that these things are essential for everyone, and should they fade, people will seek them out with others.

I have the thrill gene.  I knew my wife was not sexually charged nor adventurous when I married her and I needed her calming influence. I hobby to find the sexual excitement and pleasure in sex.

For every absolutely gorgeous woman in the world, there is a man that is tired of her shit.  Marriage sex can become stale, that's just how it is.  Unless you're in an open marriage things become stagnant.  Providers afford married men the opportunity to see and feel something different without the hassle or risk of meeting someone new at a bar, club, etc.

Never been married,glad of that. Always got tons of girls back in the day. Even loved a couple. If I wanted one I just went around the corner and there were always several to choose from. Now I go looking and no one`s there anymore except old ladies. I`m now deep in "Senior Land" but still lookin` good. Been lonely and hurtin` for a long time but not anymore.  
I Recently discovered hobby world and I`m lovin` it! This game has done wonders for my self esteem and confidence which then permeates through the rest of me. I feel like I`m emitting some kind of pheromones. My providers never say no and the young checkout girls and cocktail waitresses flirt like hell with me. I smile now all the time. Niiice!
I`m seeing a 30 yr old blonde high rated provider this afternoon in Philly and I can`t wait!
Thank you to all the providers out there in "Hobby World" You are all sex healers and angels from heaven and we love and need you badly!

I couldn't have said it better myself :)

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Never been married,glad of that. Always got tons of girls back in the day. Even loved a couple. If I wanted one I just went around the corner and there were always several to choose from. Now I go looking and no one`s there anymore except old ladies. I`m now deep in "Senior Land" but still lookin` good. Been lonely and hurtin` for a long time but not anymore.  
 I Recently discovered hobby world and I`m lovin` it! This game has done wonders for my self esteem and confidence which then permeates through the rest of me. I feel like I`m emitting some kind of pheromones. My providers never say no and the young checkout girls and cocktail waitresses flirt like hell with me. I smile now all the time. Niiice!  
 I`m seeing a 30 yr old blonde high rated provider this afternoon in Philly and I can`t wait!  
 Thank you to all the providers out there in "Hobby World" You are all sex healers and angels from heaven and we love and need you badly!

Kim if you are bi, maybe you and your husband (when you get one) can have an open agreement that you will have threesomes. There shouldn't be a reason for him to do something behind your back then.  

I was in a relationship like that once upon a time. I loved it.

I am still madly in love with my wife. She turns me on still and she puts out. I consider the marriage a happy one. I think my wife is by far the best thing that ever happened to me and marrying her the smartest thing I ever did by far. I would marry her again in a heart beat.

But I still see sex workers from time to time. Not as often as I could but often enough. Why? First my wife and I have a somewhat open relationship. I am allowed to bed pros as is she. Sometimes we do it together sometimes separate but we both bed others. If I had to hide it or if my wife wished I would stop I would.

Second most people including me have some desire for variety. I love pizza but sometimes a salad sounds nice instead. That doesn't mean I don't love pizza though. Variety is the spice of life. I never cheated, but since I am aloud to get a little side action and can afford it why not?

while married without telling my spouse/granting her permission to do the same -- but even then, I doubt that it would be a good thing for the relationship, especially if we're living together under the same roof everyday (as most married couples have to do.)    

As one of the first replies above said, we older men LOVE being able to see the young hotties -- coming home in a deliriously happy state after a visit with a sweetie, not to mention having the happiness linger for a day or two, is going to be tough on all but the most understanding of spouses.  And if my spouse came home in such a state, I know I wouldn't be understanding enough to be genuinely happy for her.  My selfish reality.  

Monogamously married and happy enough for 20 years but too happy now being single to consider another monogamous relationship, especially if I am expected to the heavy lifting, economically speaking.  

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I travel extensively and spend a lot of time on the road alone. P4P is just something I do fend off boredom. If it were feasible for my wife to travel with me I would be just as happy with her.

If you keep him Cumming every day at least once, preferably more, he won't want to cheat.  Be his fantasy.  Be his whole, be what he wants and desires.  Age is inescapable, sometimes body shape slumps too, but keep his willy wet and he will be too tired for other women.  I would be.  (Maybe this is all just my own wants/fantasy  marriage...)

My wife was absolutely gorgeous and we had a great sex life. Then, for reasons I've never really understood, she completely lost all interest in sex despite our getting along well in every other arena. After several years of celibacy (and with much trepidation) I ventured into the hobby.  Over the next several years my wife completely let herself go physically and went from being Playboy model material to substantially overweight. This bothered me but, by then, I was not as effected by that as I would have been absent the hobby as an outlet.  

To any woman contemplating marriage I'd say; consistently meet your man's needs both physically and visually and your success chances increase by a factor of 10. Men are visual creatures who need sex.  Why many women forget that or choose to ignore it after marriage is a mystery but they often do.  

 

Posted By: kim1993
I have noticed that nearly all my clients are married men.  
   
 I am curious, how many men on here are married and happy but still see an escort whenever a chance arrives

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