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Re: Let me explain
dncphil 16 Reviews 1384 reads
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While it is true that Republicans tend to favor free enterprise and capitalism, it is a simplistic distortion to the point of falsehood to say that they don't see some limits are necessary and advisable.  Just as Dems see limit on tax, albeit higher limits, so Republicans see limits on some business activites.

Also, there is the difference between what you are allowed to do and what you should do.  Many times there are things that are and should be legal, but you should not do them.  I am free to wear a T-shirt with an obscene logo and parade up and down the street in front of a grade school.  However, I don't think I should do that, and I would not do it.  

This is something that often confuses people who think there ought to be a law.  No, sometimes it is better to have things legal and hope that people will govern themselves, which they used to do very effectively.

(Do you need other examples, or can you understand the concept?  Not being snide.  A lot of people don't, and I really just want to know if I should explain further.)

As to this situation, the president of the US has never sold his office while in office.  In one sense he has a 24 hour job, and shouldn't be making money on the side.  He can wait and get his 15 million dollar contract is 4 or 8 years.  But don't sell it on the job.

It is like the current Governor of California. I think it would be terrible if he decided to film another action movie while in office and signed a contract for 20 million.  Even if he did the movie on weekends and vacation, it would look bad. Not illegal. Just wrong.

Finally, if Obama donated it to a non-political charity, I would have less of a problem with it.  Give it to an arts group, a medical group, something like that. Use it to pay for the music program that was just cut at a high school.  Use it to help with a scholarship program. (I still think he should wait before selling, but that would be tolerable.)  

However, I don't even think MoveOn.Org even qualifies as a charity.  It is a political lobbying group.  They have the right to be one, and I am not knocking that.  But while he is president, he shouldn't be using the office as a part time job and get another job promoting an extreme political partisan group.  

Someone recently spend months decrying partisan politics.  I don't think using the Office to promote one would be good.

Finally, he gives a big speech about we all have to sacrifice.  But the hypocrite has a great job with a huge salary, and no living expsenses, so it is all gravy.  It has a stellar pension, which pays his huge staff. He will be able to sign book deals for tens of millions of dollars.  He will be able to get speakers contracts that will bring in a hundred thousand dollars per day.  (Would you object to him taking speaker salaries now? If so, why?  He could just rattle off a speech at the United Distillers' Association for a quick &75K for the night.  Nothing wrong with that?)

How much money does he need now?

Does that explain?  Any part you don't understand?

So much empathy for the average Joe, or Pres can't finish a week in office without moon lighting.  Guess who signed a book deal for half a mil.

If he doesn't give it to charity, he has no shame.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/19/obamas-500000-book-bonanza/

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Why would Republicans have a problem with this?  Isn't this an example of American capitalism at its finest, creating a product that people want and selling it at a price based on the market demand?  How about if he donates the advanced to a non-profit like MoveOn.org?  Would that make you happy?

While it is true that Republicans tend to favor free enterprise and capitalism, it is a simplistic distortion to the point of falsehood to say that they don't see some limits are necessary and advisable.  Just as Dems see limit on tax, albeit higher limits, so Republicans see limits on some business activites.

Also, there is the difference between what you are allowed to do and what you should do.  Many times there are things that are and should be legal, but you should not do them.  I am free to wear a T-shirt with an obscene logo and parade up and down the street in front of a grade school.  However, I don't think I should do that, and I would not do it.  

This is something that often confuses people who think there ought to be a law.  No, sometimes it is better to have things legal and hope that people will govern themselves, which they used to do very effectively.

(Do you need other examples, or can you understand the concept?  Not being snide.  A lot of people don't, and I really just want to know if I should explain further.)

As to this situation, the president of the US has never sold his office while in office.  In one sense he has a 24 hour job, and shouldn't be making money on the side.  He can wait and get his 15 million dollar contract is 4 or 8 years.  But don't sell it on the job.

It is like the current Governor of California. I think it would be terrible if he decided to film another action movie while in office and signed a contract for 20 million.  Even if he did the movie on weekends and vacation, it would look bad. Not illegal. Just wrong.

Finally, if Obama donated it to a non-political charity, I would have less of a problem with it.  Give it to an arts group, a medical group, something like that. Use it to pay for the music program that was just cut at a high school.  Use it to help with a scholarship program. (I still think he should wait before selling, but that would be tolerable.)  

However, I don't even think MoveOn.Org even qualifies as a charity.  It is a political lobbying group.  They have the right to be one, and I am not knocking that.  But while he is president, he shouldn't be using the office as a part time job and get another job promoting an extreme political partisan group.  

Someone recently spend months decrying partisan politics.  I don't think using the Office to promote one would be good.

Finally, he gives a big speech about we all have to sacrifice.  But the hypocrite has a great job with a huge salary, and no living expsenses, so it is all gravy.  It has a stellar pension, which pays his huge staff. He will be able to sign book deals for tens of millions of dollars.  He will be able to get speakers contracts that will bring in a hundred thousand dollars per day.  (Would you object to him taking speaker salaries now? If so, why?  He could just rattle off a speech at the United Distillers' Association for a quick &75K for the night.  Nothing wrong with that?)

How much money does he need now?

Does that explain?  Any part you don't understand?

Sorry but you crack me up.  Just this short para right here, just busted my guts.


You Said:

As to this situation, the president of the US has never sold his office while in office.  In one sense he has a 24 hour job, and shouldn't be making money on the side.  He can wait and get his 15 million dollar contract is 4 or 8 years.  But don't sell it on the job.

Rebutal:

You can't honestly be serious?  President Barack Obama is the first president to make money while in office?  LOL

Blood for Oil DNCPhil Blood for Oil translates just as easily as selling a book while in office.

Yea he has a 24 hour job, and there isn't anyone out there that can't say he hasn't been on it.  Right or Wrong, he's been on it....every minute.  So he signed a book deal.  When he goes on a book signing tour.....come bitch about it then.

And you whole analogy of wearing a offensive shirt infront of a grade school has nothing to do with anything.  

Bush would have written and sold a book while in office but he's speach to text software didn't recognize words like "misunderestimate" or "proliferlators".

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