Politics and Religion

Normally I would defend family, but not in this case.
St. Croix 2347 reads
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Let's just say I had words with my nephew and his parents about responsibility and cost. Their political views are a bit left if you know what I mean. What really pissed me off more than anything was his parents have the means to pay for the surgery, but since their son is over 21, no assets, no insurance, they just took advantage of the system. A few months later, my nephew finally confessed that what transpired was wrong. I doubt his parents will ever feel guilty about their actions.

What's the old saying, "You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family"

I guess they have some major problems with health care in England.  If you spend any time overseas, you will see stories like this very frequently in the European press.  Why anyone would want to follow a failed system is beyond me.

If you think this is atypical, consider this:  Every Brit I know living hear buys health insurance even though he or she is still covered by National Health and could go back and get treated for free.  

As they say, you get what you pay for.  


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.09affc88c9815310300a92378aed0564.2f1&show_article=1

St. Croix1468 reads

My nephew lives in Paris with his girlfriend. He has lived there for 5 years and has no plans to live in the U.S. again. Let's just say his political beliefs are not necessarily aligned with the U.S.

Six months he started to experience blurred vision and headaches. No MRI, no C-SCAN from the French health care system. Basically they just said to monitor the situation and come back in a year. So what does he do? He flies back to the U.S. and gets an MRI. They discover a benign brain tumor. Life threatening today - NO, but eventually in a few years - YES as the tumor will continue to grow. Surgery was performed immediately, and yes he will be fine. Oh, did I mention he doesn't have health insurance. All care was paid by Medicaid.

I have heard of similar horror stories from Canada, England, France and other European countries with socialized medicine.

So now that he sucked the tax payers here without ever putting a dime in the system, did he skip back to Frogland where he can grouse about the US?

Now that we saved his useless brain, does he still say how bad the US is?

If he continues to bad mouth the United States after we saved his life, he is the perfect symbol of Europe - bitch about the US until they need their asses bailed out.

And this is from someone who likes Europe and goes there frequently. But they are ingrates and infants.

St. Croix2348 reads

Let's just say I had words with my nephew and his parents about responsibility and cost. Their political views are a bit left if you know what I mean. What really pissed me off more than anything was his parents have the means to pay for the surgery, but since their son is over 21, no assets, no insurance, they just took advantage of the system. A few months later, my nephew finally confessed that what transpired was wrong. I doubt his parents will ever feel guilty about their actions.

What's the old saying, "You can pick your friends, but you can't pick your family"

There will come a day they bankrupt the system.

They will turn the US into France, and his parent  will have a grandchild that dies because we have the French medical system and there is no place for the grandchild to go.  When that happens, I hope they look at each other and say, "We knew what France was like.  Why did we vote for it here."

nephew will be fine... that is important. My brother-in-law is from Canada. He has similiar horror stories. Socialized medicine is just another word for rationed medicine.

We live in a great and bountiful country and I wish more people would take advantage of all the opportunities. Sure there is room for improvement, but that ain't no call to demolish the whole economic system. The French also has one of the highest unemployment rates in the world.

I Love this country.

with the EU (even though England is a part thereof)

Both have private for profit systems with government imposed price and service controls. A total disaster, which causes rationing of both quality and quantity.

The public from the ground up approach is a totally different item. No need to ration, no profit motive driving up costs for a service critical to the national interest, and massive "collective bargaining" to control the cost of med tech and pharmaceuticals.

In Canada they flock to the US to pay for medical services they can't get in Canada.  Then they return home and say how bad we have it here without national health insurance.  

Do you really think that Canada can provide everything people want with no limits.  In every system it is a question of who sets the limits and what the limits are.  

The big difference between private and national is in national once those limits are set, you have no options.  When D.C. decides who gets MRIs and at what stage can they get them, there will be no one else to go to.  

Them's the rules, and while your brain is turning to mush, you can write to your senator and get a form letter back.  

"Dear Dying Constituent,  This is to let you know that I received your recent letter.  I am sorry we only have one MRI in your area, and I am sure you understand the importance of waiting in line.  If you are not satisfied with your care, you F'ing ingrate, I suggest you run for Senate.  We get all the care we need.  Thank you for your continued support. Senator Boxer."

I suggested not comparing the UK and canada with the EU as the systems are totally different.

try again ';-)

GaGambler1138 reads

I think trying to emulate Europe is a horrible idea. This country was founded and became great by leaving the ideologies of Europe behind us.

They are both different. And they are both failures.  Canada has to send patients to the U.S.

Wow. That's great. If they can afford it.

where groud up public medical systems are producing the highest quality service in the world and the lowest overall cost to the public....

RightwingUnderground2104 reads

from EU countries, taken with people that receive extensive medical services, not one that is a cross section of the entire population, most of which barely use the system except in preventative ways?

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