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Will providers in their screening process now be looking to see if her potential clients have the potential to give them a 10? I am in agreement with GaGambler that I am only interested in DFK and BBJ. Anal or another or girl has very little to no interest for me, leaving a maximum score of 9. A session with another guy has a 0% chance of happening.

TER recently changed some of the review policies. See Guidelines below. Specifically rule 8 and 9.
Rule 9 was mentioned here a few days ago. (Although it wasn't officially changed in the policy yet at that time).
In the past if you wrote a new review of the same provider, the new one would replace the original. Under the new rule the original review remains so one reviewer can have multiple reviews of the same provider on her profile.  

Rule 8 is the bigger one, and while a lot of people think it is a good change, there will be a lot who don't like it.
In the past for a provider to receive more than a 7 in performance, she had to offer "extra" services. (DFK, BBBJ, anal, really bi, and/or mfm). They only had to be listed on her profile to re receive the higher scores. They did not have to be performed in the specific session. The new rules say that the services have to be performed during the particular session being reviewed, in order to receive the extra point. What this means in effect is all those ladies with "really bi" on their profile can not get the point for really bi except if the session is a doubles session, or a session with a couple or female Hobbyist.

Of course it also means you can't give a point for anal if you didn't do anal, and no points for mfm if it was not an mfm session, etc., but I think the "really bi" issue is the one that will have the most effect on scores.

Edited for typos and grammar.

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FatVern854 reads

Seems all so trivial... I guess people will come up with any formula possible to justify what they charge.

Posted By: perfectstorm
TER recently changed some of the review policies. See Guidelines below. Specifically rule 8 and 9.  
 Rule 9 was mentioned here a few days ago. (Although it wasn't officially changed in the policy yet at that time).  
 In the past if you wrote a new review of the same provider, the new one would replace the original. Under the new rule the original review remains so one reviewer can have multiple reviews of the same provider on her profile.  
   
 Rule 8 is the bigger one, and while a lot of people think it is s good change, there will be a lot who don't like it.  
 In the past for a provider to receive more than a 7 in performance she had to offer "extra" services. (DFK, BBBJ, anal, really bi, and/or mfm). They only had to be listed on her profile to re receive the higher scores. They did not have to be performed in the specific session. The new rules say that the services have to be performed in order to receive the extra point. What this means in effect is all those ladies with "really bi" on their profile can not get the point for really bi except if the session is a doubles session, or a session with a couple or female Hobbyist.

GaGambler804 reads

OTOH, while DFK and BBBJ are rather/very important to me, anal, really bi and gang bangs have ZERO importance to me and I wish THAT was the change TER had made in the review guidelines.

Why should I as a man give two shits whether or not the escort I hire is into women too. Or why should I care if she would fuck another guy when I have less than ZERO interest in sharing my women with other guys, or at least share her at the "same time" as me. I suppose anal is important to some, but I much prefer pussy over ass, and greek is something I partake in maybe a couple of times a year and only after we have fucked in every other imaginable position OR if she is the one really into it.

Yes, I can see this have a big effect on scores, or encourage even more lies by reviewers.

John_Laroche708 reads

then it doesn't matter if she's bi, or does greek, or MFM.

FatVern530 reads

If she won't fuck my dog, how could she possibly be a ten?

They are beyond hard to find, and TER really doesn't gives the ladies any credit for duos anyway.  This is so not fair to GFE types. And will the ladies get a points for this new chemistry thing?

Steph :-/

I've read doubles reviews within providers' main profiles. I don't know how common that is, as opposed to making a whole new profile page for two or more ladies together. And I don't know how common it is for people to pour through reviews to find ones that mention doubles. But they're there.

Of course, if I happen to decide to review the other participant instead of you, that doesn't benefit you, points-wise.

Because doubles are supposed to be in seperate profiles.

Posted By: darmody
I've read doubles reviews within providers' main profiles. I don't know how common that is, as opposed to making a whole new profile page for two or more ladies together. And I don't know how common it is for people to pour through reviews to find ones that mention doubles. But they're there.  
   
 Of course, if I happen to decide to review the other participant instead of you, that doesn't benefit you, points-wise.

rando_mn533 reads

I've seen what darmody is talking about. A reviewer posted a review for a provider in Minnesota, and mentioned in the details that it was a double with another provide. The same reviewer did a separate review for the other provider for the same session and again mentioned that there was a double involved with the other provider. It was odd because he rated one provider higher, but his text description for the performance for the other provider was more favorable.

Posted By: perfectstorm
Because doubles are supposed to be in seperate profiles.  
   
Posted By: darmody
I've read doubles reviews within providers' main profiles. I don't know how common that is, as opposed to making a whole new profile page for two or more ladies together. And I don't know how common it is for people to pour through reviews to find ones that mention doubles. But they're there.  
     
  Of course, if I happen to decide to review the other participant instead of you, that doesn't benefit you, points-wise.

Things do slip through the cracks though. If you send in a problem report on both of those profiles, TER will remove them and you get free VIP days. They may combine them and create a doubles profile for the two providers, or they may just delete it, and the reviewer may have to write a new doubles review.  

I have seen that before too, but I have always reported them.  

Posted By: rando_mn
I've seen what darmody is talking about. A reviewer posted a review for a provider in Minnesota, and mentioned in the details that it was a double with another provide. The same reviewer did a separate review for the other provider for the same session and again mentioned that there was a double involved with the other provider. It was odd because he rated one provider higher, but his text description for the performance for the other provider was more favorable.  
   
Posted By: perfectstorm
Because doubles are supposed to be in seperate profiles.  
     
Posted By: darmody
I've read doubles reviews within providers' main profiles. I don't know how common that is, as opposed to making a whole new profile page for two or more ladies together. And I don't know how common it is for people to pour through reviews to find ones that mention doubles. But they're there.    
       
   Of course, if I happen to decide to review the other participant instead of you, that doesn't benefit you, points-wise.

Jackass gaming the system. One session, 30 days. File a PR on it, if you can still find it.

There's very little that can be done about elaboration and lies in reviews (unless someone's up for having some TER Cams active for all events the admins review along with the review submitted. Don't really see that one going over well ;-) so not really worth getting up set about it in my view.

Then again, that might be more an issue for those who are patrons of the many indies here rather than the touring girls I see where there is already some built in selection processes that set (most of the time) something of a minimum standard.

Presently most doubles review ( FMF) are separate from  the typical MF session.
Will reviewers now be writings these for more ten one provider to get the extra point ?


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John_Laroche709 reads

Now I have to check her profile and READ her reviews to decide if I want to see her.

they will have to READ
omg!

and then Comprehend ,,,ooooh, TER is pushing it here. lol  

I really don't believe "Numbers" are the best indicator of a successful session

Simple minds cannot grasp complexity and nuance

souls_harbor388 reads

I don't think anything written. numbers or otherwise, is particularly indicative of future results.  I basically read reviews to ensure she isn't a grab the cash and dash type.  Just like any interaction, a client can help guarantee a good result by his or her own actions.  Not always, of course, but a pleasing demeanor can often be infectious.

Posted By: GYBOpower
they will have to READ  
hen Comprehend ,,,ooooh, TER is pushing it here. lol    
   
 I really don't believe "Numbers" are the best indicator of a successful session.  
 

Why should a provider receive extra point for doing bbbj or dfk?. Its always been odd to me that a 1-10 review system also was dependent on what type of provider she is.  

For Example. Massage providers can't earn more than a 7 ever, so when they get an 8/7 or a 10/7, that's a five star score. But it doesn't seem so.

I feel that all providers should be rated on how well they do what they do. As in if a provider offers bbbj and dfk, she should be rated out of 10. Not out of 9. if a provider only does cfs and LFK, she should be rated out of a 10 for that too.  

So what it says is that woman who makes an effort for each and every client, but because she only likes men, and doesn't feel comfortable with more than one guy and also doesn't offer anal because she prefers traditional sex and is better at it, someone who makes time and doesn't rush and has amazing skills, can only ever receive a 9 out of 10? Cause she doesn't like tacos? It's just odd to rank things that way.

This system of rewarding higher points to providers that do everything under the sun is kind of strange. IF someone is exceptional at what they OFFER, they should receive a 10 out of 10 for their performance. Getting a 10 shouldn't be contingent on how big your menu is.

It shouldn't matter what the girl offers or not as she should be available for a 10 regardless of menu BUT...lets be practical. The number of 10/10 reviews would skyrocket.  

Ten years ago a score of 8 was considered very good but now it is considered "meh." Grade inflation has exploded over the last decade and allowing anyone to get a 10 would further skew the results.

I understand that, and i understand the push to suppress 10/10 review inflation, i just think its a funny way of going about it.

If they do bbbj and DFK they can get a 9. If they are really bi and it's a doubles massage session they could actually get a 10.

is this a joke? if not, if all that isn't on their menu, then they're not who i'm talking about. That's just escorts advertising as massage artists. BBBJ and DFK are not massages. Really bi doesn't mean just doing doubles, really bi means that she would have to do a double and interact heavily with the provider. Again, that's not a massage.

There are fbsm providers who kiss and do bbbjs, and there are also fbsm providers who will do doubles massages and interact with the other girl while not having sex with the client. There have been no sex fbsm providers who have had a lot of 9s for performance. I don't know if any 10s personally but just saying it can happen according to the rules.

NoYellowEnvelope636 reads

If I want a sensual massage, I see a massage provider.  She's a massage PROVIDER because she does more than massage.  Almost every massage provider I've ever seen did kissing with tongue.  All did HJ, and most did BBBJ (a few just CBJ).  And many of them were really bi and would gladly double up with another provider (and interact with her), see couples, and even see female clients.

I don't know what services massage providers offer in your area, but from what you say I'm glad I don't live there!

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Then why would we even be discussing it on The EROTIC Review. They don't belong on TER.

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those Cock-Teasers need to
take their massage lotion  
  and get off our Board!

 

 
   We don't run from a hard dick around these parts

Is that part of the change? I thought the old rules stated that massage could only get a max of 7.

NoYellowEnvelope709 reads

... that massage providers could get only up to a 7, even under the old rules. They could get up to a 10 under the old rules, and in limited circumstances even under the new rules, depending on what extras come with the massage.

As NYE said it has always been the case. The difference with the new change is in the past a massage provider would only have to offer those extra services. Now she has to perform them in the session being reviewed in order to earn certain scores.

Didnt want anal Or MFM OR FMF, but still feels the time he spent was the best? I don't get it it, just because ceratain providers, on provide certain things doesn't mean their service isn't still great... How will this work with the girls who've already piled up high scores from not having to follow these new rules? Guess they will have a headstart in the 9 & 10 columns?

Instead of using a single integer for performance, report the ratio relative to the max score.  A great 7 gets a 7/7 (7 out of 7). A lackluster 10 gets a 7/10 (7 out of 10).  7/7 is 100% and a grade of A. 7/10 is 70% and a grade of C or B-.  
 
I have been with some FANTASTIC 7/7s!!  

Posted By: MsLeilaLovely
Didnt want anal Or MFM OR FMF, but still feels the time he spent was the best? I don't get it it, just because ceratain providers, on provide certain things doesn't mean their service isn't still great... How will this work with the girls who've already piled up high scores from not having to follow these new rules? Guess they will have a headstart in the 9 & 10 columns?

Instead of using a single integer for performance, report the ratio relative to the max score.  A great 7 gets a 7/7 (7 out of 7). A lackluster 10 gets a 7/10 (7 out of 10).  

I have been with some FANTASTIC 7/7s!!  

Posted By: TheAyanaEffect
Why should a provider receive extra point for doing bbbj or dfk?. Its always been odd to me that a 1-10 review system also was dependent on what type of provider she is.  
   
 For Example. Massage providers can't earn more than a 7 ever, so when they get an 8/7 or a 10/7, that's a five star score. But it doesn't seem so.  
   
 I feel that all providers should be rated on how well they do what they do. As in if a provider offers bbbj and dfk, she should be rated out of 10. Not out of 9. if a provider only does cfs and LFK, she should be rated out of a 10 for that too.  
   
 So what it says is that woman who makes an effort for each and every client, but because she only likes men, and doesn't feel comfortable with more than one guy and also doesn't offer anal because she prefers traditional sex and is better at it, someone who makes time and doesn't rush and has amazing skills, can only ever receive a 9 out of 10? Cause she doesn't like tacos? It's just odd to rank things that way.  
   
 This system of rewarding higher points to providers that do everything under the sun is kind of strange. IF someone is exceptional at what they OFFER, they should receive a 10 out of 10 for their performance. Getting a 10 shouldn't be contingent on how big your menu is.

Great suggestion. I've also had some awesome 7/7 times.

I'm with you on that. In fact I suggested if TER is ever going though a big upgrade and code rewrite they should look into separating the performance ratings and the service offering -- allowing each service performed to be rated individually.

I wonder if part of the inflation in scores for escorts isn't driven by the 7 limit for massages -- if your getting sex in almost all cases (assuming any type of effort by the provider) that should get you higher than the massage only session. So, ignoring really bad providers, 7 and below becomes a massage rating and escorts are in the 8 - 10 rating. Not the plan but maybe one of the unintended consequences from the rules.

And won't gals be expected to meet those expectations by some pushy johns who read those fictitious reviews? I don't see this being good for the women here.

If I am reading this right, if its a one on one session, the girl would HAVE to do anal to get a 10?

But what the hell is wrong with a 9?

And of course people will find a way to manipulate the new rules. I still think it is a step in the right direction.

Well if the old incentive for the inflated review was special treatment -- or hopes there of -- for the reviewer and what you suggest is the result of the change that should create more of an incentive for the providers not to seek inflated reviews.

It's a change so we'll all see how it pans out. It's an attempt at keeping the scores a bit more consistent.

If we wanna get rid of 10s (which seems to be the goal here), can't we just eliminate the numerical scoring altogether?  

Whatever happens, stay outta my ass, people.

Conan the  Grammarian wants you all to know that it's "fewer tens," not "less tens."

I don't know if I can believe you! I changed it anyway, but the subject line is still fucked up. "Changes in Reviews" is not a complete sentence.

JakeFromStateFarm430 reads

Just kidding.  Conan occasionally has a sense of humor.

Posted By: bdb6
Conan the  Grammarian wants you all to know that it's "fewer tens," not "less tens."

I'd like to see fewer reviews (10 10 or otherwise), by hobbyists whose very first foray in to the review/escort world, is with a 700 dollar an hour (or higher) escort.

I'm not saying that it didn't happen, let's just say I'm skeptical.  

MfSD>>>>

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....and altho there will continue to be providers that are 'gay for pay' or going thru the motions in their doubles sessions and will still get undeserved credit for "really bi", at least it's a step in the right direction.

NoYellowEnvelope515 reads

... Did you believe that 10 you gave was deserved?  If so, that's too bad because under the new rules, you couldn't have given her a 10.

Still awesome?

...I never said that it was perfect. As with many thing in life certain sacrifices are needed to be made for the greater good. If this new review system means that I can't give a 10 that I really wanted too I just gotta suck it up. But if it also means that it's more accurate and it's not being abused, then it is a worthwhile sacrifice.

That won't change. Abusers will just lie as they already do. All this system means is ladies with shills for clients still get tens but honest reviewers that aren't into ass can't give good scores. This fixes nothing and gives incentive to lie in the text of reviews. Not a good thing.

Any time I have done a duo and been reviewed, the guy would write a duo review. Is there going to be no duo reviews now and guys must separate reviews, one for each lady? Because as it stands, you can't get the point unless you do it during the session and duo reviews aren't linked to your profile. So I feel like these new rules make things murkier in terms of bisexuality.

It's rare but I have seen reviews of a provider involving a threesome with a male and female client couple instead of a duo with another provider. So that would be way for a provider to get points for really bi.

Posted By: EmmaGray
Any time I have done a duo and been reviewed, the guy would write a duo review. Is there going to be no duo reviews now and guys must separate reviews, one for each lady? Because as it stands, you can't get the point unless you do it during the session and duo reviews aren't linked to your profile. So I feel like these new rules make things murkier in terms of bisexuality.

Where does it say that duos will no be accepted?

It doesn't say that. But what I'm saying is that duo profiles aren't linked to your profile and don't count towards your score. So unless the guy writes a separate review for each lady in the duo, she can't get the points for being bi. The only exception which the previous poster mentioned is if a MF couple booked a provider. That is somewhat rare in my experience.

Or she books with a female hobbyist like me, which is fairly rare.
Trouble is the the "really bi" claim, like some of the other services on that short list, are often untrue and abused solely to attain higher scores.

So how would you fix it?

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And I'm not disagreeing with you, in the past it has been a freebie because there are ladies who weren't bi but had it on their profile for extra points.  

My solution, not that anyone cares, is to add more categories for points. As some guys mentioned, they doesn't care about MMF or anal. So why not add FS as a point or DATY as a point? That seems more reasonable.

I think that just piles on to the source of the problem -- performance should not be driven by services offered. I think the better approach is to let the reviewer rate the various services received on how well it was performed. Right not it's all just a big jumble that largely means nothing.

But honestly Unless a provider is seeing a couple or is seeing a female hobbyist like you, she will get no real credit for being bisexual. A duo date doesn't even show up on a lady's profile! :-/ope

Well I would hope a lady would be eligible if she was seeing a female hobbyist, but who knows right now...

Steph xoxo

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Well if I see a provider and I'm convinced that she's really bi, I couldn't imagine TER having an issue with that. I can't imagine a more definitive way to prove a lady's bi then to have a session with a lady client  :)

I think that it's fair to have a listing as "really bi" if a provider visits with either a MF couple or a solo female hobbyist. The jury is still out on the duo's, however. The duo's listing is the source of many fake "really bi" claims now, so I have no idea how to regulate that or keep it honest. I guess we'll have to wait and see what TER comes up with.

JakeFromStateFarm575 reads

It's simple.  TER just has lopaw create a committee of lady mongers whom she certifies as "really gay" or at least "really bi." Only after lopaw, et. al., has DATY'd a hooker does she qualify automatically as "really bi" and become eligible for an extra point.
I hope lopaw is willing to take on this onerous task.
I believe the odds are good.

FatVern629 reads

Only a provider who was born bi should get a ten.

I guess all the natural born dykes, who are straight for pay should opt out all together

FatVern364 reads

You claim to be a lesbian, and not the least bit bisexual. So, any bichick you fuck must be a lesbian, and therefore not actually bi.

JakeFromStateFarm586 reads

News flash to vern:  lopaw's sexuality has ZERO to do with whatever the sexuality of her provider actually is.
If you are unable to wrap your "mind" around that, it would be totally consistent with all your other "thoughts."

I am wondering if showing a photo of me eating my girlfriend's pussy will suffice as proving I am "really bi" during a MF session. Can I pick up that extra point for that? He could include in the review, "She showed photo evidence that she is really bi. I am justifying my score of 10

I think it's unfortunate that this rule is in effect, so I feel ya on this big time!

Steph xoxo

But in my experience, they don't even follow their own rules. I have seen some hot girls, who gave great bbbj, and yet the review was "rejected" so either they didn't read it correctly, or the review is subjective to whomever sits in the chair on a given day and either approves or denies. And I don't write lame reviews either. I compose them in all honesty and with the full depth and flavor of the session. So guys, all I can say is good luck getting your 8, 9, or 10 approved.

JakeFromStateFarm435 reads

I actually have had a review rejected because the acts described in the Juicy Details did not add up to the score I gave.  But given the number of new reviews they have to approve I'll bet lots of inflated scores do slip by.

Yeah, under which he old rules, what you actually did in your session didn't matter. It was all about what is on her profile right this minute. It was like you had to get her profile changed before you did your review, if you were "scoring" her for acts she participated in with you that weren't already on the profile.

Unless I am with my wife, or in a doubles session I can't give a 10 no matter what she was willing to do or how much I enjoyed myself as I don't want most of the services that give point eligibility. So seeing me can automatically screw a lady in a bad way should I review regardless of how well she preformed or what she was willing to do. Fucking that. Also it means anyone with high scores DOES NOT offer regularly what I am looking for. So review scores mostly useless before are nowe are worse and I automatically hurt a top rated girl should I review so am likely to get screened out. Fucking this shit.

Posted By: scoed
Unless I am with my wife, or in a doubles session I can't give a 10 no matter what she was willing to do or how much I enjoyed myself as I don't want most of the services that give point eligibility. So seeing me can automatically screw a lady in a bad way should I review regardless of how well she preformed or what she was willing to do. Fucking that. Also it means anyone with high scores DOES NOT offer regularly what I am looking for. So review scores mostly useless before are nowe are worse and I automatically hurt a top rated girl should I review so am likely to get screened out. Fucking this shit.

You don't hurt her just because you don't give her a "10."  

It also doesn't mean that anyone with a high score doesn't offer regularly what you're looking for. Where do you get that?

No longer can I order other guys not wanting to fuck a woman up the assignment or fuck her with another dude be able to give a high score in a none duo review regardless if she is willing to be fucked up the ass. And given review scores should reflect her normal dates. Any lady with a 9+ score can't be offering the no anal session regularly unless she is repressing reviews or getting her clients to lie. A score of 9+ on performance means she just simply can't be regularly offering what I want under these rules without using tactics like review suppression I really wish to avoid.

Will now read - $*** discount for ass fuckers! :D

Will providers in their screening process now be looking to see if her potential clients have the potential to give them a 10? I am in agreement with GaGambler that I am only interested in DFK and BBJ. Anal or another or girl has very little to no interest for me, leaving a maximum score of 9. A session with another guy has a 0% chance of happening.

And will affect the "Top 100 Providers" TER list (for all cities).

I read the last review of numerous providers (beginning at the top and working down) and under the new performance rule, not one of them would have earned a 10.

DatyRookie550 reads

All subjective anyhow...

not to mention a system to try to get ladies to offer services they may not be comfortable offering just to get a higher rating?

track record of reviews is a better indicator of quality rather than one monger who is in love or one monger who showed up with bad hygiene and was denied services and who wrote a terrible review.  

Posted By: perfectstorm
TER recently changed some of the review policies. See Guidelines below. Specifically rule 8 and 9.  
 Rule 9 was mentioned here a few days ago. (Although it wasn't officially changed in the policy yet at that time).  
 In the past if you wrote a new review of the same provider, the new one would replace the original. Under the new rule the original review remains so one reviewer can have multiple reviews of the same provider on her profile.  
   
 Rule 8 is the bigger one, and while a lot of people think it is a good change, there will be a lot who don't like it.  
 In the past for a provider to receive more than a 7 in performance, she had to offer "extra" services. (DFK, BBBJ, anal, really bi, and/or mfm). They only had to be listed on her profile to re receive the higher scores. They did not have to be performed in the specific session. The new rules say that the services have to be performed during the particular session being reviewed, in order to receive the extra point. What this means in effect is all those ladies with "really bi" on their profile can not get the point for really bi except if the session is a doubles session, or a session with a couple or female Hobbyist.  
   
 Of course it also means you can't give a point for anal if you didn't do anal, and no points for mfm if it was not an mfm session, etc., but I think the "really bi" issue is the one that will have the most effect on scores.  
   
 Edited for typos and grammar.  

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I think they've done us all a Favor.

The "Numbers" are simply a Moot Point Now.

"those ladies with "really bi" on their profile can not get the point for really bi except if the session is a doubles session, or a session with a couple or female Hobbyist. "

for that last one? Why the extra point just because the client is female rather than male? ;-)

And, I'm not being too serious about this, certainly don't need Lopaw holding a grudge against me!

GaGambler461 reads

I don't think you want a "bone" any more than I do. lol

Lopaw can give a point for really bi in a single session and you can't, but Lopaw can't give a point for bbbj and you can. That kind of evens it out.

GaGambler557 reads

Unless there is a guy in the bed (about as likely as me having another guy in the bed) she can only vouch that the provider is into women. Under the present rules as I understand them only a FMF or FFM can prove a provider is "bi" and it requires either a MMF or MFM for her to qualify for "more than one guy"

So once again lopaw gets the shaft, (well not the literal shaft of course. lol)

... At least not since TER realized that there are lady hobbyists out here

I get what he is saying. If you have a great session with a provider, you can say she is "into women" but technically you can't say she is "really bi" unless here is a male present in the session too. I doubt TER would enforce that though.

I do get that, but since its assumed (correctly or not) that every provider is "straight", then my proclamation of her also enjoying women firmly roots her into "bi" territory. At least that's the simplistic way I see it.

GaGambler588 reads

said point being, TER can still do whatever they want regarding the review system and most likely every review will be on a case by case basis and what is allowed in the morning, very likely will not be acceptable in the afternoon, but by evening will once again be just fine. lol

GaGambler442 reads

and you think a bit of deflection will make people forget that little fact.  

BTW it's not working, if it weren't for Cheesy you would be the all time worst Pedantic Putz ever to have posted on TER, but when Cheesy is around you have to share the title as the two of you are equal in that regard

JakeFromStateFarm544 reads

you are merely a pale and feeble version of The Real Deal.
Dream on, Little Guy.

She likes pussy but only tolerates dick for money. She is not bi at all she is gay.

Not in a single session, no. But TER is not the logic police, and they will probably take for granted that providers see men. (Though there are probably specialists who only see women.) In which case any female client can vouch for them being "really bi" on the basis of seeming to be into sex with them, personally.

I doubt TER would enforce that. Plus the argument could be made that if a provider has a bunch of reviews from guys, and then she has a session with Lopaw that Lopaw thinks was a great session, then logic says the lady is bi. On the other hand if Lopaw TOFTT and is someone's first reviewer, then she can only conclude the Provider is into girls but has no idea if she is bi.  

Anyway a simple fix to that would be for TER to change the wording on the review form. Currently it says:
"Two girl action:  
Don't no
No
Yes, not really into it
Yes, really bi."

The last answer could simply be changed to, "Yes, really into it."

Posted By: perfectstorm
Lopaw can give a point for really bi in a single session and you can't, but Lopaw can't give a point for bbbj and you can. That kind of evens it out.
Just playing devil's advocate here

Considering CIM is not a prerequisite to unlock the potential point for BBBJ, and theoretically a provider could insist on a dental dam with Lopaw, could BBDATY maybe "qualify" for that point? Call it an "uncovered oral" point. Just one possible per session, no matter how many people are there.

I don't think I'm necessarily saying it should be like that, I'm just kicking this can further down the road. Although, I have to say it makes sense to me right now. Just throwing that out there.

Give male providers (aka TSes) an extra potential point for being willing to do dudes. Equality.

BoardAdmin1189 reads

is that there will be 2 additional categories that allow the reviewer to score up to a 5 star rating of whatever he would like - Chemistry & Location - So, maybe there was nothing that added an extra point, because you don't want anal or bbbj or dfk - you can still have a great session and give her a top rating in chemistry

Appearance is still the reviewer's choice for score.

These will be factored into the overall averages.

Sorry to hijack your post perfectstorm.

CHANGE is a scary thing for some.

I am requesting a category for:  
    Prostate Wor

FatVern507 reads

Looks like those PHDs will come in handy after all.  

Posted By: BoardAdmin
is that there will be 2 additional categories that allow the reviewer to score up to a 5 star rating of whatever he would like - Chemistry & Location - So, maybe there was nothing that added an extra point, because you don't want anal or bbbj or dfk - you can still have a great session and give her a top rating in chemistry  
   
 Appearance is still the reviewer's choice for score.  
   
 These will be factored into the overall averages.  
   
 Sorry to hijack your post perfectstorm.

NoYellowEnvelope451 reads

One definition is "I need to see this [other] person again."  Is that what this new measure means?  If so, why not be more clear about it, aka:

Would I see this provider again?
5 stars  - Definitely!  ATF candidate.  
4 - Probably.  I had a great time.
3 - Maybe.
2 - Probably not.  
1 - Absolutey not!

And if you meant something else, I think you should explain in the review guidelines what "chemistry" means.

Also, if you will factor chemistry and location into overall scores, what about the 1.4 million existing reviews that don't factor those in?

It seems like this category might add more controversy than it extinguishes.

to express overall how he or she felt about the provider.

Given that TER is so parsimonious regarding the various items that could comprise the performance score, I'd say that it is a fair nod to those who are complaining about that aspect of the system

I live in a 95% outcall service area. My location is HIS hotel room. I am now going to be rated on how well he likes his suite? Should I only accept appointments to 5 star hotels so that my location score doesn't suffer?

A lot of sessions are outcallls. A lot of providers are outcall only.

Agreed, I don't see where location belongs in an evaluation of performance. Now, I do think that perhaps location has a place in the review -- more than a few reviews I've seen will comment on aspects of the location but it's not a performance thing; location is more of a logistics aspect of the event.

rando_mn533 reads

Maybe location doesn't work as a consistent rating, but it can definitely make a difference. There is a big difference between a nice incall location and a car date in a dark alley. Or a nice incall location versus a cheap motel room with used towels on the bathroom floor and an overflowing waste basket. Or even a normal incall that reeks of smoke but is otherwise clean.

Posted By: Jensen36363
Agreed, I don't see where location belongs in an evaluation of performance. Now, I do think that perhaps location has a place in the review -- more than a few reviews I've seen will comment on aspects of the location but it's not a performance thing; location is more of a logistics aspect of the event.

I don't think many reviewers would hold a location he picked against the provider.

The point is that if incall location affects ratings, outcall ladies are at a disadvantage already. They can't get any points for that.

confused...what do you mean "location"?...i am trying to find the meaning of that and cannot...also, chemistry is also subjective and it does go both ways...some you would have great chemistry and some you do not...that is just being human...also with a single female client, you can still just get a 9 because you would not qualify for bbbj, unless anal was performed...which gets me thinking...what if male client wants anal performed on them by you?...can i get the point?...the way i understand the verbage, anal is to be offered and performed, but is it specific by who is giving and receiving?...and what about rimming?...it seems to be more likely that would be performed than mfm to occur...just my thoughts

Very good point! Anal should include giving or receiving! That way if he really wants to give you a 10 he can TOFTT

Seriously, how does one "grade" chemistry? That's literally the most YMMV thing out there and completely irrelevant from one client to the next (since it's not within the provider's control).  

And location? Does that mean I have to cater my incall location to each client just to earn the extra point? I might as well start jacking up my rates to accommodate that since I'll have to acquire a different incall constantly (plus the additional driving time).  

This is just getting way too convoluted

I will have to wait and see on those changes, but I do not like the changes in performance. It means a provider can deliver a perfect session for me, offer every damn menu item under the sun, and still can't get the score she earned because I don't want to pack her shit down with my dick she gets penalized if I review her. That's bull shit, plain and simple. It is a great way to disincentify guys with limited menus from reviewing.  

But then again, I don't waste my money on VIP here anymore. Too many fraudulent reviews to trust them blindly so all my screening is now back channel.

Posted By: BoardAdmin
is that there will be 2 additional categories that allow the reviewer to score up to a 5 star rating of whatever he would like - Chemistry & Location - So, maybe there was nothing that added an extra point, because you don't want anal or bbbj or dfk - you can still have a great session and give her a top rating in chemistry  
   
 Appearance is still the reviewer's choice for score.  
   
 These will be factored into the overall averages.  
   
 Sorry to hijack your post perfectstorm.

WICardinalfan473 reads

.....I guess my age is showing but I am not a big fan of change anymore.  

Common sense has a place in all of this.  If I walk out of a session and feel fantastic on all levels, that is a 10 for me.  It all has to work together and leave me with a feeling of having a uniquely pleasant experience.  Being unique cannot be boiled down to a check list.  

Yeah, okay there is a section on chemistry.  

If I see a person has a couple of 10's, or mostly 10's I will check up on the folks that post the reviews to see of they inflate ratings across providers.  Simple common sense and a little willingness to do some homework.

Rule 9 might have a negative impact on some providers.

How is the average score computed?  
If a monger thinks a girl is ugly, he could write multiple reviews giving her a 7 in looks, bringing her appearance score waaaay down.

Should one person have that much impact

So no more 10/10 reviews that say.  "We had a fun time, so and so is an awesome day who aims to please. The End"?

TER's new performance rating will not affect my 10's, because the services I offer and perform during a rendezvous will qualify me for a 10 (if the reviewer feels I deserve it). For the hobbyists who do not request anal, well...it means I will most likely receive a 9 (God forbid) unless I slide his cock in my 'naughty place' while he's not looking. ;)  

"Chemistry" - Of course, with my adorable personality (rolling eyes and lol) my lovers instantly fall in LUVST with me = we have great chemistry = I should perhaps qualify for an 11. :D

Bottom Line - I am a guest in TER's house, and it is a privilege to be allowed here! I am thankful for the service they provide which allows me to feel safe when I rendezvous, and for the wonderful friends I've made while interacting on TER's discussion boards. I do not like change...never have, never will...but as TER's guest, I accept and abide by all their rules!

Sincerely,
Robbin

Providers who are extremely beautiful, professional, AND sane...AND do activities which are taboo, high in demand and available on a limited basis deserve higher rating points, since it's rare to find that combination of traits all in one woman.

It's a supply and demand situation really. Plus, it's easier when guys know what to expect. It's less pressure for the provider to do anything she's uncomfortable with. Guys can read the details for themselves and decide what they want and what's most important to them.

I like the idea of certain things capping out of a 7 because it takes the mystery out of "Will she or won't she...do X, Y, and Z"

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