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I can certainly see both sides of the fence, and you have a right to . . .
Ci Ci 3465 reads
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feel that way. I guess it might occasionally take the fun out of it. However, take into consideration all of the women who have seen men without getting references. Many of those men have turned out to be LE or just plain lunatics. I'm not saying that references always guarantee a safer and classier gentleman, but it is more comforting to know the guy wasn't an ax murderer with the last provider he had seen, and checking references is much safer for everyone in this type of business (especially Arizona). And, I have to admit, when I offered specials at very low rates, I did get sloppier clients and I didn't feel comfortable with them. If you feel that way, then by all means you should do whatever makes you feel good. No one is forcing your hand in this matter.  I had a gentleman call me a few weeks ago. In fact, it could have been you, and he ranted and raved about me wanting his phone number and another provider reference. In my TER reviews, it also states to email me first (which he didn't). Well, I got the reference from another very nice provider but only after he told me it wouldn't be fun now to get together. My response was, "I'm sorry to hear that things are done differently here in Phoenix than in L.A., but don't please don't blame us for LE out here. We have to be very careful."  After all, I'd be careful that way no matter where I lived. He continued to talk about how ridiculous it was that I asked him these questions, and I was actually getting frustrated explaining it to him. It was like talking to a brick wall, and I'm big on intelligent communication between two people. I realized I wasn't getting anywhere, so I told him he might want to find another provider, and I've never said that to anyone before this encounter.  So please try to see both sides of the spectrum.

Happy hunting and kisses,
Ciara

iibmon4127 reads

This whole Internet hobbying is more frustration and hassles than it's worth. You spend three or four days back and forth with a provider contacting her, contacting your reference, then waiting to hear back from both. Then you set an appointment who knows how many days in advance only to log on that morning and find the all too familiar "have to cancel because of family emergency" message. In general, those in a decent price range are either less unattractive or older with great personalities and skills (these are great when you start in the hobby but after a while it's difficult to get excited over providers who are older and less attractive than my SO), or bombshells with lousy personalities and skills. The occasional young and beautiful ones are either ridiculously expensive or near impossible to get an appointment without weeks notice. Sure there's ATFs but isn't the whole point of hobbying having variety. I could never hand over thousands upon thousands of dollars to someone with whom there's no REAL spiritual connection, regardless of whether I have a SO or not.

I'm kind of a spontaneous person and dislike setting appointments days or weeks in advance, how do I know how I'm going to feel the day of the appointment, the day before or after I may be more in the mood. Traveling agency providers are easiest make appointments with, but you are taking your chances because many lack several or any reviews. Also they aren't around on Saturdays, the day I'm most relaxed and in the mood. Forget about finding a quality Indy on the weekend, at least where I live. I think from now on I'll limit myself to decent, safe and established AMPs (in big cities your very safe from LE as opposed to smaller towns), where there's no giving away personal info through screening hassles, no back and forth emails for days only to be canceled, no over hyped over priced escorts, no waiting days or weeks in advance for an appointment. When the urge hits all I have to do is go there get let in the door and am set. With some of these I can have just as much fun as with expensive Internet providers for half, or in some cases even less than half, the price, allowing me to visit more often or save money for other things. And many are just as accommodating and pleasant, attractive and in as good as shape. Sure there may not be any bbj or some other things (and it's safer to refrain from some things anyway), but so what, it's all overrated anyway when compared to the main course FS.

iibmon3748 reads

In my original post "The occasional young and beautiful ones are either ridiculously expensive or near impossible to get an appointment without weeks notice." should say  The occasional young and beautiful ones that also have great skills and personalities are either ridiculously expensive or near impossible to get an appointment without weeks notice.

Scorpion382015 reads

I agree, thats the beauty of going to spa's.
I'm a very spontaneous and spur of the moment kinda guy myself,and the convenience of these spa's/salons/AMP's is great for "instant gratification." GOOD LUCK!!

There is a unique provider to each hobbiest. Ask around, figure out what you like and get help from others who may know what suits your needs. Why settle for less than what you want?

Ci Ci3466 reads

feel that way. I guess it might occasionally take the fun out of it. However, take into consideration all of the women who have seen men without getting references. Many of those men have turned out to be LE or just plain lunatics. I'm not saying that references always guarantee a safer and classier gentleman, but it is more comforting to know the guy wasn't an ax murderer with the last provider he had seen, and checking references is much safer for everyone in this type of business (especially Arizona). And, I have to admit, when I offered specials at very low rates, I did get sloppier clients and I didn't feel comfortable with them. If you feel that way, then by all means you should do whatever makes you feel good. No one is forcing your hand in this matter.  I had a gentleman call me a few weeks ago. In fact, it could have been you, and he ranted and raved about me wanting his phone number and another provider reference. In my TER reviews, it also states to email me first (which he didn't). Well, I got the reference from another very nice provider but only after he told me it wouldn't be fun now to get together. My response was, "I'm sorry to hear that things are done differently here in Phoenix than in L.A., but don't please don't blame us for LE out here. We have to be very careful."  After all, I'd be careful that way no matter where I lived. He continued to talk about how ridiculous it was that I asked him these questions, and I was actually getting frustrated explaining it to him. It was like talking to a brick wall, and I'm big on intelligent communication between two people. I realized I wasn't getting anywhere, so I told him he might want to find another provider, and I've never said that to anyone before this encounter.  So please try to see both sides of the spectrum.

Happy hunting and kisses,
Ciara

My ATF lives on the other side of the country from me so I can't just call and head on over.  I make arrangements with her weeks in advance.  During the time leading up to it I will contact her occasionally to let her know that I still plan on coming and make some small talk.  In both of our messages, the anticipation of the visit is appreciated and we both say we can't wait to see each other.  I actually feel like a kid waiting for Christmas again.

Don't know where you live but I can ususally find a few ladies in my town on same day notice...a couple even prefer that for some reason.  I can count on one hand the number of times that I have had a provider resechedule on me, so I don't know about the feelings you get from cancellations.  I can say that the one occasion that I had an appointment and the provider didn't answer, I was fairly disappointed in the treatment I got.

All in all, I look at this as it's all fun.  If things don't work out like I would like with one, I move on and have fun with somebody else.  If it's not fun for you then maybe it is time to move on.

So true dude.  I have been spending weeks on a provider binge, even when I don't feel like it, in order to find my new ATF.  Only this time I'm documenting my latest search with reviews on TER.  It's just a matter of resolve and patience.

The sentence "I actually feel like a kid waiting for Christmas again" is soooooooooo true.

Good job.

"In general, those in a decent price range are either less [un]attractive or older with great personalities and skills (these are great when you start in the hobby but after a while it's difficult to get excited over providers who are older and less attractive than my SO), or bombshells with lousy personalities and skills."

So what did you expect?  Welcome to the free enterprise system!  It may not be 'fair' (in some convoluted egalitarian sense), but the law of supply and demand arguably works better than any other system I can think of.  A lady has the right to charge all the traffic can bear.  It's my problem to find the wherewithall needed to see her, or pass on by if I cannot.

Cheers!

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