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I may be wrong, but your post comes across like you either haven't tried at all, or haven't had any success. If it's neither, then just take the below as the PSA it's meant to be...

Are your OKs recent? That is the main reason I will turn down a p411 client. Sorry, but they've had busts on there before, and it looks better than your last reference being a year or older with a couple inactive accounts thrown in towards the end. No, there's nothing magic about a 6 month period, but it is at least something, and the ladies are more likely to remember you if I want to ask for more info.  

Have you been sending requests via the "request appointment" button? I gotta say, I get a lot of really late night requests on there, and I am just the type who goes to bed early. If it's really just that your schedules don't work, that's not P411s fault. If a girl doesn't respond to your request, let the staff at P411 know, they do have requirements for how much we have to be on there and how timely our responses have to be. And sometimes, my email will do weird things with P411 notifications, so if you're not getting a response, she really just might not know she got one, so shoot her a message or an email.  

And last, while I hate to suggest it without knowing you, you might be black listed, and that's why girls are choosing not to see you.

I think that if guys realized just how many girls don't respond to reference requests in even a timely manner, they'd see just how valuable P411 can be. I would say only about half will get back to me within 24 hours, if at all. Yes, it sucks to spend money on something like that, and it sucks to have to manage your own OKs, and it sucks to have to send your info in or whatever but, especially if you've seen the wrong girls, it can be even more of a PITA to try and see someone new without it. If nothing else, this should be easy.

I don't even know why I renewed my membership.  Providers use it but I have yet to book an appointment using P411

I may be wrong, but your post comes across like you either haven't tried at all, or haven't had any success. If it's neither, then just take the below as the PSA it's meant to be...

Are your OKs recent? That is the main reason I will turn down a p411 client. Sorry, but they've had busts on there before, and it looks better than your last reference being a year or older with a couple inactive accounts thrown in towards the end. No, there's nothing magic about a 6 month period, but it is at least something, and the ladies are more likely to remember you if I want to ask for more info.  

Have you been sending requests via the "request appointment" button? I gotta say, I get a lot of really late night requests on there, and I am just the type who goes to bed early. If it's really just that your schedules don't work, that's not P411s fault. If a girl doesn't respond to your request, let the staff at P411 know, they do have requirements for how much we have to be on there and how timely our responses have to be. And sometimes, my email will do weird things with P411 notifications, so if you're not getting a response, she really just might not know she got one, so shoot her a message or an email.  

And last, while I hate to suggest it without knowing you, you might be black listed, and that's why girls are choosing not to see you.

I think that if guys realized just how many girls don't respond to reference requests in even a timely manner, they'd see just how valuable P411 can be. I would say only about half will get back to me within 24 hours, if at all. Yes, it sucks to spend money on something like that, and it sucks to have to manage your own OKs, and it sucks to have to send your info in or whatever but, especially if you've seen the wrong girls, it can be even more of a PITA to try and see someone new without it. If nothing else, this should be easy.

Tell you what Amber, I'll leave names out of this thread.  I have two pre-screening requests and one appointment request. Three different P411 providers. Let's see how long it takes to get a response if at all.

Ok?

P411 cannot force you to make an appointment with me if you don't want and I agree with that.  So what advantage is it for me to pay for the service?

I've written (3) reviews of P411 women who also post on TER ad boards and have TER reviews over the past year.  I'm just not sure it's that great of a value or advantage to be a member.

Text the providers to check their email.

 
My gf, Ms Jones, does not have an easy way to access her email, so she relies on her phone, pretty heavily.

For me? If you tell me your p411 info, and you've sent me a prescreen, AND your Phone Number/Email Address match, I'll take you more seriously.

Cada uno es diferente, I'm just talking about ME!
Good luck babe!

I think I've seen her almost weekly since January of 2013.  Just love her.

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iv'e had consecutive requests ignored before.  i assumed they didnt want to see me or didnt want to see me again after our first visit.Then the next 4,5 requests are all answered.

It's just the way it goes sometimes.

Not really sure what the issue could be - I've only met people through P411 and not sure I'd do it any other way.

For me, it's worth it - it proves you're pretty legit right away when you reach out to somebody.

right now a provider can give you an ok  after only one visit.  

They should have another type of ok -an OK+ ???- if you've seen a provider more than twice. IMO it would carry more weight.  

Posted By: JT1896
I don't even know why I renewed my membership.  Providers use it but I have yet to book an appointment using P411

wouldnt you take an ok more seriously if the client had seen the provider 5 times instead of 1?  

Too, an updated ok to a recent date from an old one does not show the previous date of the o

Bennycecil515 reads

I have had great success with the site Always got a respose

Eliminates extensive emails on Race, age, and some of the things you like...puts it in the forefront which is important to a lot of people. it attaches a verified description to a client with okays being a list of ladies that will attest to your behavior and physical description.  

Also, last time I heard okays can still be updated by a girl you repeat with...

to be the preferred method by many providers, not sure what the problems are your having.  With as many reviews as you have one would think you already have enough references.  Good luck..

Posted By: JT1896
I don't even know why I renewed my membership.  Providers use it but I have yet to book an appointment using P411

I generally only see providers with P411 profiles.  I usually send an e-mail first, then we take care of screening via P411.  I usually don't use the P411 form - it just sends them an e-mail from P411.  Afterwards, I request an okay and we're all set.

Many providers request way too much personal information, and P411 usually takes care of avoiding that.  Sometimes, behind the scenes, a provider on P411 will contact a provider that okays someone just to be sure or to ask something, from what someone once told me.

Some providers ask for information in spite of a P411 account.  If that happens, I tell them I can provide personal references.  If they still insist on personal information, I politely tell them to fuck off.

But count me as a happy camper with P411, for sure.

It's a great way of not having to go through individual screening for each new appointment.  

However, I've experienced a couple of drawbacks:

- sometimes P411 requests don't seem to go through; rare but it happens, so I also follow up with a short, direct email just confirming that I put a request through

- it's not as heavily used on the left coast, and some providers there won't accept it for screening, though happily this seems to be changing

In short, I've been very happy with it, and usually find the response from requests via P411 to come back a bit faster than straight email. I assume because the woman on the other end takes them more seriously.

I have no idea what it might be, but I have had NO trouble whatsoever with booking through P411

and provide my P411 info and other routine screening info in the email. Every once in a while, I don't get a response, just as every once in a while I get a cancellation after booking. You can just try again (hopefully in a slightly different way if you want a different result) or move on.

I think P411 is better suited as a screening/verification tool for both hobbyists and providers than as a "scheduling" tool.  

Cayden and others have given you some reasons why perfectly normal-seeming requests can get lost and/or are not responded to in a timely way. I can see where trying to book (especially on relatively short notice) might be fraught with problems caused by mail/message delays, and by the fact that we are all simply human.

Just try a different approach if what you're doing isn't working for you. I doubt P411 itself is more of a hindrance than a help for you.

I have been on TER since 2004 and only joined P411 in 2013, I've been a P411 member for 1 year and just renewed my membership.  While I have seen some benefits, I  don't know if it warrants the $120 per year membership fee.

I guess I will re-evaluate it next year.

Posted By: MasterZen
and provide my P411 info and other routine screening info in the email. Every once in a while, I don't get a response, just as every once in a while I get a cancellation after booking. You can just try again (hopefully in a slightly different way if you want a different result) or move on.  
   
 I think P411 is better suited as a screening/verification tool for both hobbyists and providers than as a "scheduling" tool.  
   
 Cayden and others have given you some reasons why perfectly normal-seeming requests can get lost and/or are not responded to in a timely way. I can see where trying to book (especially on relatively short notice) might be fraught with problems caused by mail/message delays, and by the fact that we are all simply human.  
   
 Just try a different approach if what you're doing isn't working for you. I doubt P411 itself is more of a hindrance than a help for you.

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You can get a lifetime member ship. Much cheaper than p411.

and many ladies seem to prefer it over Date-Check. More than 1 provider has told me this. I think the experience as a user of Date-Check for a provider is very different from what we experience as a hobbyist.

That said, I've only ever had problems making an appointment with one provider. Three or four requests so far and sometimes don't get a response until after the appt date. Plus, sometimes providers give you discounts if you book thru P411.

On a sidenote, i don't use date-check at all.  

[quoteusername]JT1896

I don't even know why I renewed my membership.  Providers use it but I have yet to book an appointment using P411

Why haven't you given it a try?  What is holding you back?

I've got a lifetime membership to Date-Check and a (currently) two-year membership to P411 and I'll be honest - P411 is the ONLY site I'll use if a woman I'm interested in is on it. My only gripe with P411 is that (to my understanding) they only have one level of "vouch" that a provider can give for a guy whereas DC as a "recommend" and "highly recommend" or some such. I wish P411 offered something similar. The site is simply so much easier to use than DC, along with the fact that DC doesn't clear out old profiles.

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