We know all that, and It was mentioned way earlier in the thread, that she doesn't need to perform specific services with you, they only need to be offered. Offered means it is stated in the profile. The End!
and then not explain why in the review? I read reviews from time to time, and whenever i see a guy give a girl a 6 or a 7 when she was eligible for much more, then in his review he talks about her like she was the most amazing thing and had the greatest time and will see her again. No mention as to why he didn't give her the full rating. I'm wondering why that happens.
Even if a provider does anal, is really bi, and will do MFM, doesn't mean she automatically qualifies from an enhanced performance score.
You didn't read. I'm aware of that. I'm saying if you didn't give her the maximum possible score, why don't men say what wasn't great about their session, so people are aware?
Certainly given the many discussions about rate inflation that have occurred you would think that would occur. I agree, I've sometimes read reviews and wondered why the 6 or 7 was given when the narrative seems to suggest something better -- though your question is different than that.
I really don't have an answer but generally don't worry about it. I look at larger context -- what is a reviewers over all pattern -- when deciding whether or not I care what they wrote and if it's useful to me for making a decision. So if someone is always giving 6-8s and another is given 8-10 and I've seen some of the same providers I now have a baseline to make an evaluation.
In other words, I think you're looking for a more consistent scoring system that will exist.
...according to TER, a rating of "10" in performance is "One in a lifetime". Unless you believe in 24 hour reincarnations, how is it that so many reviewers do dish out "10's" with just about every gal they see? And then there are the providers that get only "10's". However, that's another subject that has been addressed a number of times so let's not go there now.
Basically, there's nothing wrong with having a "great" time with a gal and still giving out ratings below "10". We all need to put more emphasis on the description of the session and the experience, rather than just have a knee jerk reaction to a number. Ciao!
once in a lifetime is only up to a certain point in time. If you give a 10 and then a few months later, you have an even better experience, you have to give a second 10. The TER review system doesn't have a way to go back and take back the prior 10 or change it to a nine.
I know the moment I give a ten, another hotter, sexier woman will come along forcing me to expand my scale up to eleven, and then of course another even hotter, more beautiful woman will come along forcing me to further expand my scale up to 12. Do you see where I am going here?
Performance is pretty much the same way for me, to me a ten means it couldn't possibly be any better, but P4P sex is almost always covered. IMHO sex is always at it's best without a condom, any session with a condom, no matter how great, could always be improved if there was no condom involved. Since condoms are a necessary part of P4P, I can't imagine ever rating a paid session with a condom as a sexual experience rating a "perfect" score.
These are just a couple of reasons that I don't review, I realize I would be punishing women by my harsher scoring system as a TER 10-10 would most likely be an 8-8 from me, and the majority of the women I see who get 9-9's and about are more like 7-7's on my own personal scale. It wouldn't be fair to these women to get my lower scores in a review as we'd be comparing apples with oranges. I do know of a few reviewers who's personal scales mirror the GaGa scale, but when writing reviews they use the TER benchmarks and are actually rather liberal graders.
... more than one experience that is "once in a lifetime". For example, being there at the birth of my first child was once in a lifetime (because I'll always have only one first-born). But I've had other once in a lifetime experiences also: first date, first kiss, popping the cherry, first time flying a plane etc etc.
So I have no problem with a reviewer giving out more than one 10. But I think they should be different experiences in some way. And they shouldn't ALL be 10s... unless the reviewer is one very lucky person.
Some reviewers don't understand the rating system. They think, for example, that if a provider doesn't offer FS her maximum possible performance score is 7. I've seen other reviews indicating that the reviewer thinks if the provider doesn't offer Greek, her maximum score is 9.
While a particular reviewer may have a self-imposed maximum score in mind depending on services actually rendered, that's not how TER's rating system works.
But always keep in mind rating numbers are largely subjective. Experienced hobbyists will tell you that what's in the review text and in (accurate) photos is more important than the scores.
Actually, the TER rating system does include limits on the ratings. This is directly from TER on writing reviews:
"In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum."
Meaning, absent kisses with tongue, BBBJ, really bi, Greek or more than one guy at a time, the maximum possible score is 7. As an example, if the reviewer thought the experience was off the charts BUT the provider offered none of those things, the max rating is a 7.
What I was saying is that some reviewers don't understand those rules, and thus believe there's TER-imposed limits that in reality don't exist, eg "It's not possible for me to give more than a 7 because it was FBSM and that's as high a score as TER allows if there's no FS."
Also, to be clear... the max score isn't based on what happened in the reviewed session, but what's in the provider's profile. Some reviewers may not agree with that policy, but that's what the rules say (with one exception related to the first review(s) for a provider).
It doesn't necessarily need to be in the provider's profile. If the provider tells you she would do Greek or bring another provider along, as examples, the reviewer could give her 2 more points for those activities, the 7 could then become a 9 for actions the provider would be willing to do.
You clearly don't understand the rules for scoring yourself, so it's best for you to not confuse others with your inaccurate statements.
Perhaps you should enlighten me on what you believe to be inaccurate. It shouldn't take long, considering it's all accurate!
Just because you think a girl will or might do X doesn't mean you get to add the extra points if it's not in her profile. That's not too complicated. Now, if it's not in the profile but you get those service and she's not opposed you you stating you got those services in your review the Admins might allow your review unchanged. More than likely they would require the provider to request an update to her profile stating such services were on the menu (not sure if providers can simply change the offering on their own or not).
Edited to say this:
Sonofabitch! I replied to the wrong post. This was supposed to go to the one above, by Kaffe. My bad my bad, I feel stupid for that. The rest of this is right though.
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Sorry Lieutenant, but you're not understanding the rules yourself. Go read them again really closely and look up this topic on the newbie board.
If you try to give points for an activity that isn't on her profile, admin will kick it back.
Also, you seem to keep missing NYE's point. He's just saying that no FS doesn't necessarily automatically mean no higher than 7. A non-FS, FBSM lady can do BBBJ and kiss with tongue and get a 9. Theoretically, she could offer 4 hand massage, play with the other provider in the session, and get a ten, if she convinced someone to put "really bi" on her profile.
But it needs to be on the profile first. Even if you can get admin to change her profile before you write her review. That's fine. But if you submit it when it's not on her profile, you'll get told no. She don't even have to offer it to you, she just has to have it on her profile.
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That's incorrect. I can say from personal experience that, so long as the provider says it's something she'll do, TER will accept it, I've had this come up with several reviews in the past and TER approved them.
As an aside, maybe you should watch the movie again, it's Col. Jessup that got in trouble, not Kaffee. Just sayin'!
...if it isn't already on her profile
I suppose it depends on what you mean by "profile", at least to some extent. If you mean the info on any reviews, they aren't always complete or entirely accurate. If you mean a "profile" that was created by the provider, then it might be that the profile isn't current or maybe it isn't complete, perhaps due to reasons of discretion. Regardless, if the provider says "Next time we meet, why don't we........." do whatever, then it can be used to increase the rating.
...that is created by her first reviewer. I have found that alot of info on provider profiles is wrong and never corrected by the provider herself, especially if the error gains her the possibility of a higher score.
Yeah, as I'm guessing you know, it's an often-stated concern, the first reviewer creates the profile and it may or may not be entirely accurate. I know I've done reviews after the profile had been created and I entered information that was rather different. Sometimes it's something innocuous like no tattoos when she really has one tattoo, sometimes it's something of more significance like CBJ and no CIM versus BBBJ and CIM. While sites like this are a huge help as far as providing information, it's still "buyer beware" and realizing that just because it's on the internet don't make it so!
the providers profile comes from the first person to review the provider.
First of all, if you say so, bud. I guess we all have to just take your word for it since you're using an alias for no reason. If you say you've gotten scores through, personally, while giving points for stuff that ain't on her profile, I guess we all will believe you, since we don't know who you are. But myself and many many others have personally had the opposite experience, we got told "it's not on her profile, you can't score for it." But if you say so.
I think you should watch the movie again, and re-read my post. Where did I say Kaffee got in trouble?? I said his clients got thrown out of the Corps. Which they did. Putz.
I never claimed to speak for others, I don't know for certain what their experiences may have been. That said, I've certainly come across reviews that suggested the same thing, that being that the reviewer increased the rating due to something the provider said she would do that was not on her profile. As an example, I recall reading reviews where the reviewer ended with something like, "She told me I should see her again and we'd do Greek". Again, just an example.
My apologies on Kaffee versus Jessup, I must have read the line too quickly, I thought you stated "no wonder you got a dishonorable discharge". But hey, the "clients" got a much better result than the Marine Corp wanted!
If that happened to you and you are talking from personal experience then TER fucked up. It happens sometimes. They are human. But if you have a lady a rating higher than what her profile allows someone else can file a problem report and get the score back down.
If "TER fucked up", that doesn't make ME wrong.
It means you statement about what the rule are are wrong. You might be wrong because TER effed up but that still means you are wrong about what the rules are.
You are trying to tell everyone that all they need is word from the provider that she offers something, and they can give her a higher score. That statement is clearly wrong. Just because sometimes things slip through the cracks does not make your statement correct.
Because otherwise I would be sending some problem reports on your reviews right now. 
This is also from the TER information on posting reviews:
"This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score."
This does not say that the offered service must be on the provider's profile. After all, it seems that most everyone agrees that the profile may not be entirely accurate anyway. So, if Greek or bi-action (or whatever) wasn't "performed during your session" but "she offers" these services, then the rating can be increased.
We know all that, and It was mentioned way earlier in the thread, that she doesn't need to perform specific services with you, they only need to be offered. Offered means it is stated in the profile. The End!
The profile is NOT the end all and the review written by one person is NOT limited by what was put in the profile by the person that wrote the first review. Show me anything in the terms and conditions that backs you up.
If that's happening it's because one of the admins is making a mistake. If it's not in the profile or not claimed in the review then you should never be able to submit a score greater than the 7 we're all using as the baseline.
But TER doesn't always enforce that either -- I've had a review (possibly the only one) I gave a 10 in performance kicked back and then the next day someone else gave and had published a review with a 10 for performance. The review didn't include services I didn't mention and the profile did include Anal and Really Bi (but I don't really think those were on the table).
Not loosing sleep over this but we all have to admit the rating system here is far from perfect and not perfectly enforced/applied -- which is mostly your point and I agree with it.
All true! I've sent in reviews that mentioned a certain website that shall remain nameless (hint, it's been in the news lately!) and they got kicked back saying that they prohibit the mention of such websites. Then, a few days later, I read a review that mentions the same website! I agree with your "loosing sleep" comment, I take all the reviews with a grain of salt and, for me, I look for a "general consensus" rather than taking any one review as absolute gospel. Hmmm, maybe "gospel" isn't the best word to use here!
While a particular reviewer may have a self-imposed maximum score in mind depending on services actually rendered, that's not how TER's rating system works.
But always keep in mind rating numbers are largely subjective. Experienced hobbyists will tell you that what's in the review text and in (accurate) photos is more important than the scores.
Its hard for a provider to be upset at you for rating her numbers that are commensurate with other reviewers, its much easier for her to get upset about things you actually write, especially since TER doesn't allow editing or retractions. And then there's the issue that even though you might have had a fun time, she may still not be the hottest in your own experience or the best you ever had... a 7/7 experience can be very pleasurable and a 10/10 experience can be overwhelming... its not as cut and dried and there are no real reviewing standards. Plus... brace yourself... people aren't very smart.
As someone new to doing the hobby in this manner, I'm a bit torn on how honest a review should be in the first place. I've had provider's suggest a score they'd like me to give them... which in turn makes me inclined to just not write a review so as to avoid being dishonest and bothering myself or being honest and bothering her.
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of course, given the references for Catch 22 perhaps highly appropriate 
that most providers don't give me the max possible service. If you're suggesting that I get a better blowjob if I give you a score of 10, then what did I give the money for? I thought THAT would get me the best blowjob.
I try to maintain integrity in my reviews, which is why there is not a single provider that can link the person they saw to CDL on these boards or my reviews. Some are not going to like it when I'm honest, but I don't wan that to stop me from getting future appointments. So CDL is never mentioned when booking, only my name and my refs. If that's not good enough, I'll go elsewhere.
I understand that. You don't seem to have read through. I'm saying if you didn't give her the maximum possible score, why don't men say what wasn't great about their session, so people are aware?
First, the score is for the OVERALL performance, and is a subjective number for each hobbyist. Some guys have many reviews but have never given a score above an 8, so an 8 from a guy like that is the same as a 10 from a guy who has given a 10 before. Its relative to an individual's grading scale, and no two are necessarily the same.
Second, many guys do not want to name a specific part of the session that they thought was substandard because they don't want to hurt a girl's business by saying something that could have long-term negative ramifications, so again, its an OVERALL score which takes any substandard parts of the session into consideration in the final score. An example would be if a guy had a good time but passed on DATY because he thought he smelled yeast infection. Its a temporary condition, easily fixed, but putting it in a review could damage a girls business months after she has taken steps to eliminate it. Anything with an "ICK" factor can permanently damage your business, so you should appreciate that guys are sometimes NOT that specific in their reviews.
Personally, anything that is hygiene-related, I would neither mention to a provider nor put in a review, but I also would not repeat. It makes them look less than professional. Fortunately, I have only encountered such things a couple of times in many years of hobbying.
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Well from personal experience, if you blatantly say anything negative, critical, opinionated or that could be construed as negative you might be on the receiving end of a complete shitstorm of BSC. Won't make that mistake again. I thought reviews were for other clients before I was a VIP, now its fairly clear to me that a lot of providers consider this their free publicity.... publicity that the client is paying to give them apparently. It ends up being better to just say nothing... this isn't Yelp.
I've ever seen very blunt and direct comments to directly align with lower numbers, is if the girl didn't match the pictures and was fat, or not as attractive as the images led him to belive...or the service was rushed, mechanical and cold. If a guy feels you did bare minimum and was a bitch about it, they will be chipped while writing the review. Other than that, he will be honest choosing a number value to describe the experience and her looks but ain't going to be more honest than necessary in the review about what he don't like. I think alot of guys try to find what was good about it and go with that.
but what's the point? especially when the review they write says they were amazing. But then they giver her a 7 out of a possible 9? SO it wasn't amazing? If she's cold, or mechanical, or whatever, why don't they include that?
TER will downgrade a review if the written experience does not match thier guidlines for that numeric value selected. It is possible the guy just wrote a lackluster review and TER said, nope, that's not a 9 on performance. From what I read it's more like a hot time. TER someplace has review requirements that describe what constitutes a 9, or a 10. Just because the guy says the experience was a10, don't mean it will stick.
Sometimes I think if a woman normally has 6 and 7 looks, a few 8's, and a guy comes along with a 10, 9 review it is suspect. This is just another possibility
He found her amazing, he had a hot time. Does not mean he forgot it was a service.
RATING PERFORMANCE
10 It was a one in a million.
9 I forgot it was a service.
8 She went the extra mile.
7 It was really hot
6 It was a nice time.
5 Average
4 She just laid there.
3 It was barely worth the effort.
2 I should have stayed home.
1 A total rip-off.
I'm saying 7 when the max possible is a 7. WHen the max possible is less than ten, that list you posted adjusts to make the highest possible a 7
You said a provider who qualifies for a 9 getting a 7. Now you are changing the story and saying she only qualifies for a 7?
Because she wasn't that great.
But then it turned out you're asking something I've often wondered myself. Some guys will talk a woman up like she's the greatest he ever had, say he's gonna be a regular now, just gush over how awesome she is, and give her a six or seven. Wut?
I don't get it either. My best guess is guilt. Or not understanding the rules, as NYE said.
Stranger than that are the guys who make it sound like she should've paid him, and then give her a 9.
I would suggest you not try to figure it out. I know that's easy for me to say, I'm not the one being graded publicly on life's most intimate acts, but try to forget it. Some reviewers are BSC, period. Trying to understand these scores can be like trying to understand "hooker math".
I agree with surlyboy as to the blunt comments with lower numbers. If a provider has clearly outdated pictures, entirely fake pictures or the session is entirely mechanical, the review will probably be rather poor, along with the numbers. I will say though that I've had a number of sessions with providers that were a couple years past their prime and the pictures were a little old. On the positive side, the provider was very friendly, accommodating and fun to be around. In a situation like that, I might try to make the review as "positive" as I could (under the circumstances) while still being appropriate with the numbers.
I'd rather focus on the positives of the experience and try to take into account YMMV variables, and let that be revealed more by the number rather than the details. Of course this method is used only as an example to answer your question, not an example of a poor or bad experience. Considering that in my book no one is getting a 10, a 7 is still a very good on the scale. When reading reviews myself, I go by the content and not the numbers. Numbers are, um, overrated.
This is a by product of the "every kid gets a trophy" generation.
#2, Some guys take the rating description seriously. 10 = once in a lifetime, 6 = nice time, 7 = hot time.
Personally I would repeat with someone I had a nice time with, and definitelywoukd repeat with someone I had a hot time with.
It's too bad that the ratings all got skewed out of wack and now people think a 6 or 7 is a terrible review.
rating definition explains it all, but now some new provider i met asking me to give her 9/10 or 10/9, i mean come on now.....all the provider i've met are very attractive, beautiful and pretty. I gave some 7 and mostly above 8 and base on my honest truth. but can't ask ppl to give you 9 or 10 if I don't feel like its 9/10 or 10/9 but regardless i try to be fair as much as possible.
yes i have gave 9/10, 8/10, 10/7 and even 10/10 but these provider gave exceptional service. these are all my ATFs
I am curious about the situation you described as well! I often send a PM to the reviewer and ask "why did you give a 7 when you wrote all positive things?"
Sometimes I get an answer that usually has to do with the reviewer not using the rating system as TER designed it or some aspect of the provider's appearance that they left out of the review for any of a number of reasons (e.g., forgot to add it, can't put their opinion in words, felt their preference is too subjective to matter to others, fear of hurting the provider's feelings, fear of retribution if he/she wants to see the provider again).
Rarely (maybe two times) I got my review with perfect scores rejected by TER. I didn't get a reason
I've been hobbying 20 years -12 on TER - and I've learned that someone else's 10 is my 7, and, my ATF was a 7/7
Ratings are subjective. A 7 to you is a 5 or a 9 to another. Don't pay attention to the number ratings, read the review, see if it lines up to other reviews.
Some guys fawn by the numbers and others are too judgmental and tough.
stick to the story.
Outside of eligibility - which, frankly, can be gamed to a 9 without a lot of trouble - this is the scale for ratings I would give - I take the descriptions seriously:
7 - Hot time. 7 is good. Worth paying money for.
8 - Went the extra mile - above and beyond that which is required. Really provided service.
9 - Forgot it was a service - getting towards really open minded girlfriend/FWB
10 - Once in a lifetime. My translation - best experience I have had to date. I have had four of those - and each one topped the one before that. Lord, I love this hobby... The last (a four hour BDSM foursome) is probably not going to be topped. Took two days to recover...
All that said - when I am reading a review - I look at the text and whether the pictures are accurate. Beyond that I pay no attention to scoring.
lady I will read her website and several reviews to get an idea of the level of service she offers. I do not choose provider A over provider B just because of a numerical score.