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Debra_Hollander See my TER Reviews 556 reads
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Almost all of my touring bookings are scheduled weeks, if not months, in advance.    

I get very few serious, verifiable inquiries the same week of my visit and usually NONE within 48 hours.  
Posted By: Zzbottom2
23 hrs and 20 mins is plenty of time for her to "fill that slot"  
In my personal experience, NO.  That is absolutely NOT plenty of time to replace that client.  
Posted By: Zzbottom2
If you can't forgive someone 40 minutes when they contact you almost a full day before when they are sick you probably won't have too many repeat clients if you really are that rigid.  
 
My own policy actually states the fee kicks in within 48 hours, rather than 24, but if someone missed it by that narrow of a margin?  I would most likely waive the fee.  The only reason I wouldn't do so, would be if he said or did something which made me believe his reason was not legitimate.  
 
Posted By: Zzbottom2
Would she really want to see someone when they were sick???  
Exactly how are ladies supposed to know who really is sick versus the liars?  

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alias 695624 reads

Any experience with being charged a "cancellation fee"?  

Here's what happened:  I booked with a visiting provider on Monday for an appointment on Friday morning at 10am. Thursday morning I woke up with a cold. Waited an hour or two to see if it was just allergies but by mid-morning could tell it was getting worse.  At 10:40 I emailed her that I was really sorry but that I'd have to cancel. Told her I was bummed and hoped we could reschedule sometime in the future when she was visiting my city again.  

She emailed back promptly about an hour later saying:  "That's unfortunate. I do have a 250 cancellation fee/rebooking fee."  (Her hourly fee is $500.)

So... in my over 20 years of lobbying that's the first time this has happened. I've had to cancel in the past and always try to give at least one day's notice.  Problem is that I would really like to see her at some point in the future but there's no way I'm going to pay $750 for a one-hour appointment.

I can understand this policy if I had cancelled at the last minute but in this case I at least did so 24 hours in advance.  Seems to me her policy is counterproductive. She could have graciously accepted my cancellation and willingness to meet in the future but instead by responding the way she did she precluded that possibility.

Have others run into this and, if so, how have you dealt with it?
For providers, what is the logic in charging a cancellation fee... a fee that you're not likely to ever get

alias 69746 reads

Good question.  No, there was no mention of cancellation fees.  Just re-checked her web page and, again, no mention of cancellation fees.

NoYellowEnvelope561 reads

I know a provider who's a consummate professional, who has a cancellation fee. But she communicates it:

- in her email auto-response when you reach out to her about a date.  
- on her web site
- on her p411 page  

If someone misses all that, it's his/her fault.  

If she never communicated her cancellation policy to you in any way (web, email etc) before you cancelled, I don't think she's justified in charging you a fee.

I haven't seen much touring ladies (probably only 1 so far, but she doesn't have cancellation fee), but i understand if she have cancellation fee because i believe most all of the touring provider have their schedule really tight and 1 or 2 cancellation would make a mess of their daily schedule.

However, cancellation fee have to be clearly stated and given with reasonable time, but I agree with you, you did gave her 24 hour advance noticed......she should've give that consideration, but I can't speak for whoever you book with, so best of luck.

At how much notice you give. If it's 24 hours plus, I would not pay the cancellation fee. If it's less, then I would pay it. However, I would make sure her website clearly states she has a cancellation fee. If this is the first you're hearing about it, I think you can ignore it.

That may be your policy but according to the OP it is not on her web page so it's her loss. Unfortunately some ladies claim this "cancellation fee" and I call it bullshit. I bet she would not dump her rate by $250 if she had to cancel.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
At how much notice you give. If it's 24 hours plus, I would not pay the cancellation fee. If it's less, then I would pay it. However, I would make sure her website clearly states she has a cancellation fee. If this is the first you're hearing about it, I think you can ignore it.

Actually, I just this last evening canceled on a get with less then 6 hours notice and offered him a free hour on top of the time scheduled.

So there is your Bullshit.

KO"
 

Posted By: SoleSurvivor
That may be your policy but according to the OP it is not on her web page so it's her loss. Unfortunately some ladies claim this "cancellation fee" and I call it bullshit. I bet she would not dump her rate by $250 if she had to cancel.  
   
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
At how much notice you give. If it's 24 hours plus, I would not pay the cancellation fee. If it's less, then I would pay it. However, I would make sure her website clearly states she has a cancellation fee. If this is the first you're hearing about it, I think you can ignore it.

That is your personal preference and I applaud you for doing that but the major majority of ladies would not think twice about doing the same thing.  

But, you are missing the point. You did not offer a free session or discount it, so in reality you are still getting PAID.  

What if that person does not want an extra hour?  

So you can now return to your rightful place in the major majority.......along with your attitude.

Posted By: KirstenO
Actually, I just this last evening canceled on a get with less then 6 hours notice and offered him a free hour on top of the time scheduled.  
   
 So there is your Bullshit.  
   
 KO"  
   
   
Posted By: SoleSurvivor
That may be your policy but according to the OP it is not on her web page so it's her loss. Unfortunately some ladies claim this "cancellation fee" and I call it bullshit. I bet she would not dump her rate by $250 if she had to cancel.  
     
Posted By: coeur-de-lion
At how much notice you give. If it's 24 hours plus, I would not pay the cancellation fee. If it's less, then I would pay it. However, I would make sure her website clearly states she has a cancellation fee. If this is the first you're hearing about it, I think you can ignore it.

There are probably thousands of good stories out there about people genuinely respecting one another without a second thought. Around here, you get to hear the bad stories.  

And the stories about people changing their practices to become better communicators, consumers, and providers - you probably don't hear at all on public forums.  

Very small sample around here. There are lots of good people out there. The good people aren't going to want to hang around people who expect the worst from them, of course. I still think listing the cancellation fee eliminates a lot of problems. But until you're in it, you can't really know what every provider does do with each individual patron.  

If they're doing it right, you won't hear about it on this board. That's for sure lol

product or service, you rarely hear from the 97% that are happy and satisfied with what they got.  You only hear from the 3% that are dissatisfied for whatever reason.

I think cancelation fee is a good idea.

But you canceled 24 hours in advance so that shouldn't be a problem, I see if you canceled last minute, it sounds like your saying she is visiting so maybe she was depending on your appointment to pay hotel or something... my cancelation fee would be around 50$ but it also goes toward your next meeting if you do come to see me again.. but then again my rates is lower then hers, only 250hour.  I don't know I guess if you want to see her that bad then you can pay up the cancelation fee.. if you think it's unfair. Well,, those are her rules , respect them here :)

Zzbottom2600 reads

If her policy is 24 hrs before and he cancels at 23 hrs and 20 minutes away, a little common sense has to come into play on her part.

I once cancelled a service appointment only 5 minutes past the 24-hour deadline and they kept my entire deposit.  
Sure, I'd hoped they'd be kind about it, but they weren't; which was well within their rights.  

it's not common sense one might hope she employs, but rather enough forgiveness to give a little.  ;-)

GaGambler490 reads

At least she better if she expects to ever collect any of these cancellation fees.

As I have said on numerous occasions, I don't book in advance so this would never happen to me, but I would find it laughable if out of the clear blue some hooker demanded $250 because I cancelled roughly 24 hours before our date.

If we are going to be fair about it, I am entitled to literally thousands of dollars from lost time due to hookers pulling NCNS over the years, even on appointments only booked a few hours earlier.  My time is worth every bit as much as all but the priciest hookers. So if I had to spend two hours driving back and forth and waiting around a incall location waiting for that second call that never happens, why shouldn't I be entitled to a $250 cancellation fee. I bill a LOT more than $250 for that amount of my time.

clearly defined cancellation policy. My time expired while I was  
standing in line waiting to do an exchange. By literally minutes.  

Maybe I'm a bit sensitive because I've never cancelled on an Indy. OK, I did once with an agency I used 100+ times, but I was fortunate to get preferential treatment due to my longstanding relationship there. I also rebooked immediately.  

I'm careful with anyone that has a "punitive" policy and might avoid them altogether. It's been said before that there's a first time for everything, even though I'd drive my car thru a wall to get to my appointments on time. It's how I handle my real life business too. Good habits die hard.  

Aaaaah! Getting suspended three times in a week in high school because I didn't understand the rules learned me we'll. Back then, I couldn't imagine that lesson would serve me well in hooker heaven.

Personally, I think she should have cut him some slack since he gave her 23 hours and 20 minutes notice. I was just commenting on simple facts here. Kiki said he gave her 24 hours notice. The fact is he did not.

Zzbottom2572 reads

23 hrs and 20 mins is plenty of time for her to "fill that slot" 🙈If you can't forgive someone 40 minutes when they contact you almost a full day before when they are sick you probably won't have too many repeat clients if you really are that rigid. Would she really want to see someone when they were sick???

Almost all of my touring bookings are scheduled weeks, if not months, in advance.    

I get very few serious, verifiable inquiries the same week of my visit and usually NONE within 48 hours.  

Posted By: Zzbottom2
23 hrs and 20 mins is plenty of time for her to "fill that slot"  
In my personal experience, NO.  That is absolutely NOT plenty of time to replace that client.  
Posted By: Zzbottom2
If you can't forgive someone 40 minutes when they contact you almost a full day before when they are sick you probably won't have too many repeat clients if you really are that rigid.  
 
My own policy actually states the fee kicks in within 48 hours, rather than 24, but if someone missed it by that narrow of a margin?  I would most likely waive the fee.  The only reason I wouldn't do so, would be if he said or did something which made me believe his reason was not legitimate.  
 
Posted By: Zzbottom2
Would she really want to see someone when they were sick???  
Exactly how are ladies supposed to know who really is sick versus the liars?  

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alias 69534 reads

Right.  I can see a $50 or even $100 fee but $250 seems excessive.  I realize that she might not have been able to book someone in the time left but stuff happens and it's better to cancel than show up sick!

FatVern420 reads

I'd simply NCNS on her, that way she knows I have no intentions of paying a CF, or booking with her again in the future.

(after you paid it) to another date in the near future.

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Because she's a visiting provider and reliant upon pre-booking I can see there being an issue canceling the day before.  Someone earlier that week could have asked for your timeslot but were denied.  But half her hourly charge seems excessive.  Maybe $100 but not $250.

Ask her if it can be applied to a future visit, and mention to her there is no mention of a cancelation fee on her website-
If you're sick you're sick it's not like she wants to contract your germs?

Every lady is different but most times when I have seen or heard about cancellation fees it can be applied to your next visit. In other words in your case (if this is her policy) you would pay her 250, but she deducts 250 from your next visit. It functions as a deposit. If you cancel the next visit, then she keeps the 250. Depending how badly you want to see her, you need to clarify it with her. If you don't care about seeing her again, then no big deal. What will happen to you if you don't pay the cancellation fee?  



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alias 69506 reads

Aha!  Hadn't thought of that.  I just assumed the $250 was an additional charge.  I'll check although not clear to me how I'd pay her the $250 fee unless she wants me to mail or wire her the $250...

...... is often handled via gift cards, specifically e-gift codes.  Some ladies take PayPal, SquareTrade or similar, though.  :-)

As deb said, gift cards are common. You buy the card then just email or text her the code. In any case I think her springing it on you after the fact, without having a clear policy on her ads or website, is uncool. Also, her not cutting you some slack for giving 23 hours and 20 minutes notice is also uncool. Thirdly I am guessing if she was the one who cancelled she wouldn't be paying you a cancellation fee. :) I wouldn't give her a dime, but the bottom line is if you still want to see her, and how badly. If so, you should be able to communicate and work it out. If not, just ignore her and move on.

Now, in my case it is clearly posted on my website, and I've begun telling gentlemen to read that page prior to setting our date.    

Not telling you in advance, or having it posted on her ad or site?  Probably not good, and makes it even less likely she'll collect.

Are you certain the $250 cancellation fee would not go towards a future booking?  Quite a few ladies handle it that way.
(I don't, but I'm weird.)

Here's my POV as a touring provider: most of my bookings are set weeks, sometimes months, in advance.  I only get a very small percentage of my dates from same-week scheduling almost none within 24 hours.  
So a 24 hour cancellation notice?  That doesn't really help me, as I have so little chance of replacing that client-slot.  
 

I know because this past summer I had a LOT of cancellations, almost all within 48 hours of our date.  
I have no way of knowing if the reasons/excuses they gave are real, or whether they just changed their minds.  
What I do know is that I had often turned away other interested gentlemen because I already had my preferred number of bookings for the day.  (I'm reluctant to "overbook" with the expectation that a certain percentage will cancel.)  

So I have my new policy for now, but it will likely change and evolve over time. ;-)

As to a provider's chances of collecting?  So far, I'm batting 500 on that one.  LOL.  ;-

I can see what some ladies do. Touring is an expensive business and if everyone who prebooked before your tour, leading you to believe costs were covered, then cancels when you arrive, you'll likely head home out of pocket. I personally don't think this is the type of industry where cancellation fees are appropriate, but then I don't ask for deposits or anything either.
I choose to tour and I accept that guys change their minds last minute or get cold feet, or life happens and I accept its part of my risk in doing this job. I don't want to be regulated in my work or sex life, which is why I do this work, so I accept men's lives can't be regulated either.
Often even with 24 hours notice though a booking space can't be filled by a new appointment so it's a monetary loss and she may not come back to your city again either way with too much of it :(

Check her email reply to the confirmation to your date and auto-replies. She may have it listed there...

 
Risk is inevitable, but many businesses figure out ways to eliminate unnecessary risk. There's risk, and there's unnecessary risk - and different levels of risk. Booking someone for the first time who is on a tour - only to cancel while she is already on tour - with no intent to pay a cancellation fee - would be a no-go for me in the future. That's just me being stupid if I booked again. And I wouldn't enthusiastically fuck the guy the next time.  

I don't understand the idea that a woman would ever go out of her way for someone again or VIP them into any slot if that person mean less money, over someone who hasn't burned her before.


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I'm weally not feewing well today. Sowwy honey but I (cough cough)
have to cancel. Fuck, pussy that I am, I might show up sick to prove the point if I wanna stand a chance to see her (again?).  

Yea, there's a little of fish in the sea, but a lot of them are stinky. If I go through the effort to arrange to meet you, you're getting met. 😆

You should pay it unless you don't want to see her again. Btw you did NOT make the 24 hour time to cancel. You were 40 minutes too late. "Close enough" only applies to hand gernades and government work.

She told me where to park last thing I want is my car vandalized or cop to get me when there in the parking lot. Unless he pay by PayPal or credit card in advance  she not getting any cancel fee.  

Posted By: alias 69
Any experience with being charged a "cancellation fee"?    
   
 Here's what happened:  I booked with a visiting provider on Monday for an appointment on Friday morning at 10am. Thursday morning I woke up with a cold. Waited an hour or two to see if it was just allergies but by mid-morning could tell it was getting worse.  At 10:40 I emailed her that I was really sorry but that I'd have to cancel. Told her I was bummed and hoped we could reschedule sometime in the future when she was visiting my city again.  
   
 She emailed back promptly about an hour later saying:  "That's unfortunate. I do have a 250 cancellation fee/rebooking fee."  (Her hourly fee is $500.)  
   
 So... in my over 20 years of lobbying that's the first time this has happened. I've had to cancel in the past and always try to give at least one day's notice.  Problem is that I would really like to see her at some point in the future but there's no way I'm going to pay $750 for a one-hour appointment.  
   
 I can understand this policy if I had cancelled at the last minute but in this case I at least did so 24 hours in advance.  Seems to me her policy is counterproductive. She could have graciously accepted my cancellation and willingness to meet in the future but instead by responding the way she did she precluded that possibility.  
   
 Have others run into this and, if so, how have you dealt with it?  
 For providers, what is the logic in charging a cancellation fee... a fee that you're not likely to ever get?  
 

Hi There  

I am glad she did this and made you pay.
You hobbyist think we have nothing else going do you know much of inconvenient it is.
Good for her and sux for you.

About time.

Alley xo

GaGambler426 reads

BTW you don't have a word about YOUR cancellation policy on your website or ANY of your ads.

So I suppose this is a matter of "do as I say, not as I do"

These threads really are quite revealing about the mind set of some hookers. Some prove how eager they are to please their clients and go the extra mile to make them happy, others prove themselves to be simply money grubbing cunts who don't give two shits about their clients.  

Hey Ally, take a wild guess which category you fall into?

Put on?  
"Money grubbing cunts",  
yeah you actually wrote that one.  
Brilliant! Just fucking brilliant.  

 

Posted By: GaGambler
BTW you don't have a word about YOUR cancellation policy on your website or ANY of your ads.  
   
 So I suppose this is a matter of "do as I say, not as I do"  
   
 These threads really are quite revealing about the mind set of some hookers. Some prove how eager they are to please their clients and go the extra mile to make them happy, others prove themselves to be simply money grubbing cunts who don't give two shits about their clients.  
   
 Hey Ally, take a wild guess which category you fall into?

GaGambler404 reads

because every one of those women are on my personal DNS list and it helps to find out by their board posts rather than finding out in person.

If you had a spine, or better yet If you could ever get your balls out of a certain someone's purse, you might realize this.

If you hadn't noticed, this is a fuck board, if phrases like "money grubbing cunts" offend you so, maybe you should find a discussion board about scooters or something else more your speed. lmao

I'm sure you hide your TER name far from your P411 stuff don't you, ya little weasel? Your misogynistic and racist posts would never get you dates through TER so it leaves the question, Why are you on TER? My guess is you're a very insecure little guy who gets to "play" at who he would really like to be online. I'm sorry your real life sucks so bad.  Pathetic.  

Posted By: GaGambler
because every one of those women are on my personal DNS list and it helps to find out by their board posts rather than finding out in person.  
   
 If you had a spine, or better yet If you could ever get your balls out of a certain someone's purse, you might realize this.  
   
 If you hadn't noticed, this is a fuck board, if phrases like "money grubbing cunts" offend you so, maybe you should find a discussion board about scooters or something else more your speed. lmao

If the policy is on her website you have to pay. Period.

Posted By: alias 69
Any experience with being charged a "cancellation fee"?    
   
 Here's what happened:  I booked with a visiting provider on Monday for an appointment on Friday morning at 10am. Thursday morning I woke up with a cold. Waited an hour or two to see if it was just allergies but by mid-morning could tell it was getting worse.  At 10:40 I emailed her that I was really sorry but that I'd have to cancel. Told her I was bummed and hoped we could reschedule sometime in the future when she was visiting my city again.  
   
 She emailed back promptly about an hour later saying:  "That's unfortunate. I do have a 250 cancellation fee/rebooking fee."  (Her hourly fee is $500.)  
   
 So... in my over 20 years of lobbying that's the first time this has happened. I've had to cancel in the past and always try to give at least one day's notice.  Problem is that I would really like to see her at some point in the future but there's no way I'm going to pay $750 for a one-hour appointment.  
   
 I can understand this policy if I had cancelled at the last minute but in this case I at least did so 24 hours in advance.  Seems to me her policy is counterproductive. She could have graciously accepted my cancellation and willingness to meet in the future but instead by responding the way she did she precluded that possibility.  
   
 Have others run into this and, if so, how have you dealt with it?  
 For providers, what is the logic in charging a cancellation fee... a fee that you're not likely to ever get?  
 

I can't even think of a situation where I would pay a hooked a cancellation fee. I don't care if it is on her website or not.
Things happen unexpectedly sometimes, which is why they call them "unexpected" in the first place.
For a profession that gets paid for their "time", you would think they wouldn't fuck with ours so much.  
How many times have us guys had to hear about the "family emergency" or "give me 20 minutes sweety to freshen up", or worse, the show up and no answer situations?
Happens all the time on both sides, so we all just have to deal.

Posted By: alias 69
Any experience with being charged a "cancellation fee"?    
   
 Here's what happened:  I booked with a visiting provider on Monday for an appointment on Friday morning at 10am. Thursday morning I woke up with a cold. Waited an hour or two to see if it was just allergies but by mid-morning could tell it was getting worse.  At 10:40 I emailed her that I was really sorry but that I'd have to cancel. Told her I was bummed and hoped we could reschedule sometime in the future when she was visiting my city again.  
   
 She emailed back promptly about an hour later saying:  "That's unfortunate. I do have a 250 cancellation fee/rebooking fee."  (Her hourly fee is $500.)  
   
 So... in my over 20 years of lobbying that's the first time this has happened. I've had to cancel in the past and always try to give at least one day's notice.  Problem is that I would really like to see her at some point in the future but there's no way I'm going to pay $750 for a one-hour appointment.  
   
 I can understand this policy if I had cancelled at the last minute but in this case I at least did so 24 hours in advance.  Seems to me her policy is counterproductive. She could have graciously accepted my cancellation and willingness to meet in the future but instead by responding the way she did she precluded that possibility.  
   
 Have others run into this and, if so, how have you dealt with it?  
 For providers, what is the logic in charging a cancellation fee... a fee that you're not likely to ever get?  
 

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