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Re: The author sure is getting alot of publicity.
Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 467 reads
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No Vern, he has come into the light and Brenda is exposing his non-compus mentus for what it really is.  You never know who is going to read your discourse and call you on it. Especially if it is a women with experience in the game.

I was searching a site for something unrealted to escorts and a banner came up with "Top 10 Ways to Negotiate with Escorts." Of course I had to click it and had to read it twice - looking for the punchline!!!
SOOOOOOO sad, some poor guy is going to read this and think he is King Dingaling and get himself slapped, arrested, or - yikes I don't know but this just made my whole day- laughing too hard!!!!!!!!!
My responses for what to do are in all caps, anybody want to help so a newbie has the correct info?????
xoxoxooxo

#10 - When traveling, it's very easy to fall for the bait and switch. When the "switch" appears, always come across as "you are NOT what I requested". Tell the escort that you have another independent girl coming in two hours, and that you will wait for her. This will force her to either leave (highly unlikely) or drop her price to get 'something' out of you

REGARDLESS IF YOU ARE TRAVELING OR NOT, IF A "SWITCH" SHOWS UP, YOU DO NOT NEED TO LIE ABOUT HAVING ANOTHER GIRL- JUST BE STRAIGHT- HER PICTURES ARE FALSE - I'M NOT LETTING YOU IN OR COMING IN ETC
GUYS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE BE CAREFUL THOUGH.  
I HAD A CLIENT GO TO A CHEAP MOTEL DOOR YEARS AGO - WHEN THE "SWITCH" OPENED HE SAID HELL NO- AT THE SAME TIME TWO THUGS APPEARED FROM BEHIND HIM AND TOOK HIS WALLET AND HAD HIS PLATE ON THE CELL PHONE IN CASE THE GUY WANTED TO GO TO THE POLICE FOR BEING ROBBED.  
THIS IS NOT ALWAYS A FAIR FIGHT... DON'T TRY TO GET SOMETHING CHEAPER FROM SOMEBODY WHO ALREADY TRIED TO GET OVER ON YOU HOPING THE LITTLE HEAD WOULD NOT THINK STRAIGHT.

#9 - No matter how badly you want the escort in front of you, always remember that another escort can be had in no time. Don't ever be afraid to tell the companion she is not to your liking. Don't be rude or crude about it. Be polite and straight forward. By doing so, she'd be more inclined to negotiate with you to get some sort of service. Example. I have someone else coming in a bit, but I'd take a CBJ from you for $50.  

 
HOLY HELL ON THIS ONE- UMMMMMM BUSTED IS WHAT COMES TO MIND HERE- WE NEVER AGREE TO ANYTHING EXCEPT GIVING A GIFT AS A TOKEN OF SPENDING TIME TOGETHER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO SEXUAL ACTS ARE EVER TO BE AGREED UPON-  EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#8 - Be VERY Wary of Backpage. Yes, there are TON of escorts on these. Thing is, you are dealing with the bottom of the barrel. Be sure to research the woman's phone number / email address and reviews to see if she is who she says she is.

A GUY SHOULD DO HIS HOMEWORK REGARDLESS WHERE HE FIRST FINDS THE PROVIDER.  
I KNOW TAMPA GUYS GET RIPPED OFF BY A LADY WHO IS "AUTHENTICATED" ON EROS WHICH IS EXPENSIVE TO ADVERTISE ON SO THE SITE DOES NOT DICTATE IF THE GIRL IS GOING TO RIP YOU OFF- THE GIRL DOES...  
PLEASE USE PROVIDERS WITH CONSISTENT DECENT REVIEWS AND ACCEPT YOU WILL NOT CLICK WITH EVERY PROVIDER EVEN IF SHE IS 10/10 ACROSS THE BOARD.  

#7 - Older mature escorts are a hidden gem at times. Thing is, their mileage my vary. Meaning, a 40 year old escort would post a picture of her when she was 30. She'll show up and you'll be quite disappointed. I've found the older women are reviewed pretty detailed. By viewing these reveiws, you'll know if these women are worth your time or not.

I LIKED THE FIRST SENTENCE HOWEVER THE AGE GAME IS PLAYED EACH WAY.  
40 YEARS POSTING AS 30 AND EQUALLY 30 YEAR OLDS POSTING AS 20...  
IT CAN GO EITHER WAY WITH AGE, AN OLDER LADY HAS HAD TIME TO LEARN THE BIZ AND BE AMAZING OR SADLY THE TIME IN CAN GO THE WRONG WAY AND SHE CAN BE USED AND ABUSED ----  
BUT 5 YEARS IN THIS BUSINESS CAN BE THE SAME FOR A 20- TO A 25 YEAR OLD AS OPPOSED TO A 40-45 YEAR OLD- THE 40 YEAR OLD JUST MIGHT HAVE HAD MORE LIFE SKILLS TO START WITH TO UNDERSTAND CLIENTS EASIER- BUT AGAIN NOTHING IS SET IN STONE

#6 - Don't be scared off by ethnic women. While their accents are heavy, with little to no english, they will do things that many american girls will not.  

THIS HAS TO BE THE DUMBEST STATEMENT ON HERE. REALLY?????????  
I AM PRETTY SURE YOU CAN FIND LOTS OF AMERICAN BORN WOMEN THAT WILL DO ANYTHING YOU WANT- SO SILLY!!!!!

#5 - Avoid the STD risk by using a condom for EVERYTHING. Yes, that includes all oral activity. Sorry guys. I've been able to play the game for over 30 years without a single STD based on this premise.

OF COURSE USING A CONDOM FOR EVERYTHING SHOULD KEEP YOU SAFER- THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL BY JUST LOOKING AT SOMEBODY IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING. PLEASE BE RESPONSIBLE AND AT THE LEAST USE A CONDOM FOR REGULAR SEX AND DO KNOW HAVING BARE ANAL SEX IS KNOWN AS A DEATH WISH...

#4 - Book the escort again right at the end of you present engagement. By doing so, she'll build a trust factor with you. This translates to no clock watching, more open to activities, and an ability to bring you to greater heights!

WHAT MORAN ACTUALLY THINKS THIS WAY?  
IF YOU RESERVE ANOTHER DATE AT THE END OF THAT DATE OR TWO YEARS LATER NEVER EVER THINK YOU WILL BE ENTITLED TO FREE TIME OR EXTRA ACTIVITIES- JUST SO STUPID.  
IF THE LADY CHOOSES TO OFFER EITHER IT WILL BE BECAUSE YOU FOLLOWED HER REQUESTS, TREATED HER LIKE A LADY NOT A WHORE, AND YOU DID NOT THINK LIKE THIS JERK!!!!!!
ALTHOUGH I APPRECIATE A GUY ASKING FOR A REPEAT APPOINTMENT ON THE SPOT, REALLY IT IS BEST IMHO, TO WAIT AND SEND A TEXT/EMAIL ETC WHEN THE GIRL IS WITH HER CALENDAR - MOST OF THE TIME AT THE END OF THE APPOINTMENT PEOPLE WANT TO RELAX NOT WORRYING ABOUT HAVING TO LOOK UP A DATE/ WRITING IT IN THEIR BOOK WHATEVER- A FOLLOW UP EMAIL IS ALWAYS MY PREFERENCE.

#3 - If an escort lists PSE as one of their services, you'll be able to truly push the boundries with her. I've found many of these women have dabbled in some sort of on screen sex scenes. Might have been just one time, but they know the game. All those fantasies can truly be fulfilled by these women. If the provider does GFE and PSE, be wary. Chances are she'll do anything for money, so you'll be paying extra for those extras.

??? NOT SURE I AM FOLLOWING THIS ONE!!!!  
EACH LADY SHOULD BE UPFRONT ABOUT WHAT SHE OFFERS DURING HER TIME.  
I CAN'T IMAGINE DISCUSSING MONEY FOR ANY REASON- YIKES- DO YOU JUST WANT TO PUT YOUR OWN HANDCUFFS ON??  
BE WARY OF DISCUSSING MONEY FOR SERVICES SHOULD BE PARAMOUNT TO WHAT SHE WILL DO FOR MONEY.

#2 - The world of arrangement dating is growing. These sugar babies don't charge for time, but you can find an arrangement with these girls that you can't with escorts. These girls tend NOT to be with many guys, hence lowering risk all around . Also, I've found the sex to be incredible - if it ever goes down that path. ArrangementFinders.com is one of largest players in this space.

SOOOOOOOOOOO NOT TRUE... I PERSONALLY KNOW ONE LADY WHO HAS NEVER EVER BEEN AN "ESCORT" BUT SHE IS LITERALLY WITH A DIFFERENT GUY EVERYDAY- SHE SAYS SHE HAS A KID AND AN OFFICE JOB (NEITHER OF WHICH SHE HAS) TO PLAY ALL DIFFERENT GUYS TO HELP HER AS STRUGGLING SINGLE MOM- AMAZING MARKETING ON HER PART BUT I FEEL SHE IS PLAYING WITH FIRE. THESE GUYS THINK THEY ARE HELPING HER AND FEELINGS CAN GET INVOLVED- I WORRY ABOUT HER WAY MORE THAN I WOULD ANY REGULAR ESCORT WHERE GUYS DON'T EXPECT OR WANT ANYTHING TOO PERSONAL

#1 - Remember guys, this is a hobby. Enjoy yourself. Keep away from STDs. Best part yet, always negotiate with any escort. There's SO many women in this space now, you can get another one in no time. Indicate that this wasn't what you were expecting, but you'd be 'willing' to do X for Y dollar amount. If she gives you the FU face, then politely tell her thank you, but I have another provider on their way. I've found this to be INCREDIBLY effective.

AGAIN NEVER EVER EVER NEGOTIATE- YOU ARE JUST GOING TO BE TREATED LIKE THE DOUCHE BAG YOU ARE, YOU COULD GET ARRESTED, AND WHY BOTHER??? IF YOU CANT AFFORD HER- JUST MOVE ON. THERE IS NO REASON TO WALK INTO A LEXUS DEALERSHIP IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD THE TOYOTA.  

XOXOOXOOX

and a huge Diet Coke and settle in... this is kinda like the SB/SD thread. It has potential....

Steph xoxo

In my humble opinion, those "how to" are very wrong most of the time. Haggling over price with an escort is a turn off for me. As soon as you start negotiating , I stop liking you and giving your appointment a less priority. We choose our fee based on our services. You do not go to target the store an negotiate the price with the cashier. So what makes you think you can negotiate with an escort? If you can not afford a 300hour escort then go on backpage.com and find you a lower quality session from a different cheaper provider. Simple as that.  Problem solved Hehe :)

Posted By: Kikiloverkink
You do not go to target the store an negotiate the price with the cashier. So what makes you think you can negotiate with an escort?
The Target store cashier is not the seller who can set prices as they see fit, but just a powerless employee of the corporation handling the transaction. You CAN negotiate with the Store Manager (if you can find them) and haggle over the price ... sometimes.  

Providers are Independent Contractors who control the supply and price of their own "goods." If there is anyone to negotiate with, it is her! Or do I mean "It is she!"?

In most circumstances, I recommend against negotiating. If you've ruined her mood or temperament, you've negotiated yourself into a discounted, lousy session. For unlisted longer sessions or long term relationships or other special arrangements, you have reason to negotiate to clarify and come to a mutually acceptable understanding

GaGambler721 reads

This has got to be your best post ever, and it's no coincidence that it's also your shortest. lol

Feel deep deep deep burn .. beneath the skin of your buttocks ..it bothers YOU  and you can not hold it any more .. go to to the bathroom, take down your pants .. and check- there would be a bite of the spider on your ass now .. would look as an allergy.

THAT is not too bad for you NOW - that is is just a warning  for you to stop be  .. hmm how to say that so not to much hard and not come across as one of those red necks here?

Please, act as a gentleman you are.  
 Are you ? A gentleman?
 That is correct English?  
Ian sure you got it.

Check your ass on subject spider bites NOW  and I would go drink coffee and run .. as here is 8: 45 of morning time.  
That is time when I love to wake up .

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FatVern498 reads

They negotiate by offering different segments of time, or prices for that time on their websites.

 
It's up to the customer to decide how much he wants to spend, by deciding how much time he wants.

 
That right there is a negotiation.

Posted By: FatVern
They negotiate by offering different segments of time, or prices for that time on their websites.  

It's up to the customer to decide how much he wants to spend, by deciding how much time he wants.  

That right there is a negotiation.

No, it isn't. I went to CVS and it said, "Toothpaste $3.29." I didn't want to pay that price so I went down the street to Walgreens where it said, "Toothpaste $2.99" and I bought it there. I didn't negotiate anything. I didn't go back to CVS and say that it's cheaper at Walgreens or ask them for a two-fer or a freebie. I didn't ask the cute clerk for a BJ, either. (But I wanted to!)  

ne·go·ti·a·tion
nəˌɡōSHēˈāSH(ə)n/
noun
1. DISCUSSION aimed at reaching an agreement.
2. the ACTION or PROCESS of negotiating.

What you describe is "take it or leave it", not negotiation.

If you do go to target and you ask the cashier for the manager and negotiate the price of a tshirt with the manager then your simply an asshole douchbag in my opinion. The PRICE IS SET , BUY IT OR LEAVE IT.  :)  if it is our first time meeting and you negotiate, I will 80% of the time pass on meeting you unless it is really slow . If I see you multiple times a month, then yeah we can negotiate, I will give you a break because you are giving me a stable income EVERY month. .. But otherwise negotiation is a total turnoff, there's always a cheaper option, go with her instead.  

Posted By: impposter
Posted By: Kikiloverkink
You do not go to target the store an negotiate the price with the cashier. So what makes you think you can negotiate with an escort?
   
 The Target store cashier is not the seller who can set prices as they see fit, but just a powerless employee of the corporation handling the transaction. You CAN negotiate with the Store Manager (if you can find them) and haggle over the price ... sometimes.  
   
 Providers are Independent Contractors who control the supply and price of their own "goods." If there is anyone to negotiate with, it is her! Or do I mean "It is she!"?  
   
 In most circumstances, I recommend against negotiating. If you've ruined her mood or temperament, you've negotiated yourself into a discounted, lousy session. For unlisted longer sessions or long term relationships or other special arrangements, you have reason to negotiate to clarify and come to a mutually acceptable understanding.  
 

GaGambler463 reads

You just admitted to negotiating 20% of the time on a first meeting, actually even more than 20% of the time when "times are slow"

Ok fellow mongers, make a note to yourself that if you have any interest at all in seeing this particular hooker, wait until her rent is due and you will have a VERY good chance at seeing her at considerably less than MSRP. rofl

Funny thing is I own my place of living. So don't worry. :)  

Posted By: GaGambler
You just admitted to negotiating 20% of the time on a first meeting, actually even more than 20% of the time when "times are slow"  
   
 Ok fellow mongers, make a note to yourself that if you have any interest at all in seeing this particular hooker, wait until her rent is due and you will have a VERY good chance at seeing her at considerably less than MSRP. rofl

FatVern439 reads

That all providers work the same.  

 
I show up, I pay, when the time is up I leave.

 

It's the same every time.

And then I noticed number "9", so I looked back and saw there had been a "10", so I knew this was a countdown, and thought, "YIKES", I've got eight more to go, so I bailed on you.  Don't take it personally.  It seemed to be for newbies anyway, and I'm not a newbie.  I'm sure you put a lot of throught into this but I doubt many are going to make it to the end.  Next time, I suggest you just link to the article and then add your comments.  Just my opinion.  Others are free to disagree.

I toke the time to read it because it's very interesting. :)  

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
And then I noticed number "9", so I looked back and saw there had been a "10", so I knew this was a countdown, and thought, "YIKES", I've got eight more to go, so I bailed on you.  Don't take it personally.  It seemed to be for newbies anyway, and I'm not a newbie.  I'm sure you put a lot of throught into this but I doubt many are going to make it to the end.  Next time, I suggest you just link to the article and then add your comments.  Just my opinion.  Others are free to disagree.  

"toked" I probably would have read the whole thing, too.

The author sounds like somebody that has zero clue, period!  I can not wait to see the next article he comes up with.  

 
xox

 
Elle Vegas

FatVern468 reads

Don't validate him.

Posted By: ElleVegas
The author sounds like somebody that has zero clue, period!  I can not wait to see the next article he comes up with.  
   
   
 xox  
   
   
 Elle Vegas

No Vern, he has come into the light and Brenda is exposing his non-compus mentus for what it really is.  You never know who is going to read your discourse and call you on it. Especially if it is a women with experience in the game.

Yawned......Hope no one is taking him serious....

John_Laroche502 reads

to text or email my first choice, and when she responds, tell her sorry but Shari Suckaweenie already responded and offered a discount for a 2-hr date later tonight. I'd rather not wait, but...

With a little research on local boards, you can find 2 hookers that probably don't like each other and would love to steal each others clients.

Business is business.

Posted By: brendaboobies

   
 AGAIN NEVER EVER EVER NEGOTIATE- YOU ARE JUST GOING TO BE TREATED LIKE THE DOUCHE BAG YOU ARE, YOU COULD GET ARRESTED, AND WHY BOTHER??? IF YOU CANT AFFORD HER- JUST MOVE ON. THERE IS NO REASON TO WALK INTO A LEXUS DEALERSHIP IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD THE TOYOTA.  
   
 XOXOOXOOXO  
 
Not to pick nits, but it's not always about affording (though it certainly could be sometimes).  It's often about valuing, which is completely subjective.  If one of my favorite restaurants suddenly doubled their prices, I would likely stop going there.  Not because I couldn't "afford" it, but because I no longer valued the meal at the price being asked.  The point is, with supply and demand you find that perfect sweet spot where just enough gents value you at a price point where you can maximize your profits.  Then it doesn't matter that there may be many who don't value you at that rate, because you have all the clients you want.  By the way, not many ladies here can "afford" me.  My rate is $5,000 per hour.  But so far, no takers.  Somehow I suspect the reason might go beyond my complete lack of advertizing. ;o)  But hey, I'm doing fine with my day job, so I'll stick with my price.  And if a random lady (albeit with impeccable references), propositions while I'm walking down the street with an offer of only $4,500??  Sorry, that just won't do (and no, I don't offer 1/2 hour sessions).

But ultimately, I agree it's best not to waste each other's time.  Whether a guy can't afford a lady or just doesn't value her at her asking price, I've come to believe that it's generally best to just move on.  I dabbled with a little mild negotiating when I first started, with success 2 of 3 times.  But after reading these boards about how so many take offense to any negotiating, I decided not to do this anymore.  I didn't join this hobby to offend anyone, or to be perceived as "cheap" for only offering a lady $600-$700 for a 2 hour date.  So if a lady fell just a smidge out of my desired range, I decided to just move along and look for another.  There is always another.

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