What happens when 2 people get together is never the same as another combo.  You have to make it your own...even reviews are really a subjective experience of the writer.  Perhaps one gent is very detailed and another is not even if all happened moreorless the same.  

I find in general the intensity is created when a gent brings HIS A-game.  He is invested in having a wonderful time-- that experience is personal and defined exclusively by him.  It is not a candy menu...it is a dynamic and sensual progression.   If you approach the session like a checklist, I doubt seriously that it will truly pop in the manner you are hoping for, but hey, that might just be my desire to take it up a step to a flowing vocano...some erupt violently while others ooze and smolder.  I like it both ways and follow your vibe.

Yes my Jimmies do get quite rustled when in general a girl does not treat me the same as others she has seen and what is clearly offered in most of her reviews and in stated menus. As long as I am treating her with respect and I present myself in a well kept manner i.e. I am clean and not smelling like a sewer then i do believe I should be given again in general terms the same type of service. So i am not talking about things that she may do out of the norm with another client whom she is either more attracted to or just more connected to than they might be towards me.

 Sexual activities aside what bothers me the most though is a girl whose reviews state how sweet,nice etc. she is but for whatever reason she is rude and even down right insulting towards me for having just said hello. As much of a jerk and even ass hole I admittedly can be at times here I am always cordial when with the girls and do not think that being respectful and polite to another should be allowed to be brushed off as "YMMV".  

 I got a lot of hate here by that last post from the girls and boys alike when challenging their beloved acronym so go ahead lets here it again.

 

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I focus on what I like and as long as the beautiful lady delivers it with a convincing degree of passion, I enjoy it. So far it has served me well and keeps me coming back. 😎

Solo mis dos centavos.

YMMV Mr. Happy.merchant.
A review is simply one's perspective and experience or a memory of the occurrence.
Definitely it is not an exact science, nor is one's idea of beauty and skills either.
"In the eye of the beholder" is so true in our world of dating on sites and such.

The "wow" factor occurs with some and not with others.  
You as a Hobbyist, receive in a session the "vibe" which you initially set forth.
If you are stiff upon entering the location, turn your head when one goes in
for a welcome hug and kiss, or act weird from the onset, your engagement
shall commence less than perfect, however, that does not mean the entire engagement
will be as such.  
{however, no kissing is understandable if you are just
not seeking that aspect, or are just "not a kisser-type"}

This sets the stage however of uncomfortableness.  
I am very keen to body language, and this would suddenly make me think you are
LE, an informant, or an other character in the list of possibilities, regardless of the fact
I have checked, checked, and triple-checked your references.

I had one new guest whom for the first twenty minutes made me feel so odd,
and uncomfortable, I truly could not get a read on him, as to whether he was of the aforementioned list.  Thus, I charmed him, cajoled him with dance, and humor, in
an effort to stir up some chemistry with him, but  
I was truly uneasy, and was ready to cancel the rest of the date, after the first twenty minutes.

At the end of the date he used the facilities again, whereupon the envelope was placed.
I usually always check the donation prior to our continuance.  I did not in this incidence.

Indeed my instincts were somewhat appropriate, as when I opened the envelope, he
commented, well we talked for the first twenty minutes so I'm not remunerating you for that portion!  {of a three hour date}  
How disappointing one can imagine, I was upon discovering
that this tightwad was a prominent Director in a Fortune 500 Company!  Oooops!
How does one discuss a person whom slights you on a donation?  Any thoughts?

Furthermore, I'll even give you a bit more insight as to the mindset of said Providers;
If a new guest or even a regular one has chosen to negotiate with me on my donation,
then I have a less than excited view of the prospective session.  Time and time again,
I speak with various Providers, and we all have a common view on this unfortunate issue.

Though I am always "randy", it puts a damper on the meeting from the get-go.  
Especially if you are a new guest, and you walk in dripping in wealth and status, wearing a Presidential Rolex watch, a thousand-dollar suit, and alligator shoes.  

Although I greatly appreciate and adore one being stunningly coiffured and styled,
you've just given me the first impression of yourself, that though you are of immense status,  
you are indeed cheap.  Money does not necessarily purchase social skills and grace.

Although it is none of my damn business as to your wealth, your personal status, and such,  
it is my business, if you are espousing during our session about your stellar career, or your
daily affairs which are that of being a permanent fixture on the Maderas Country Club golf links.  

You tell me how successful you are, yet you are attempting to lessen my income by negotiating,  
haggling, or shorting me on my donation?  
Again, like a broken record, one does not negotiate for goods and services with other  
service-oriented businesses.  There is always TJ for that.
We are "service-oriented".

There will always be those whom believe that asking for a discount is no big deal, and
why would one not attempt to negotiate?  It can't hurt to ask right?  
That is ones opinion, and we all have them, good or indifferent.

I am not a fan of one dickering with me on donation, nor quite frankly, are many  
Providers here on TER, or anywhere, for that matter.
They may not even tell you they are less than thrilled about it, however, inside, yes,
they are not too happy with you doing so, and are probably saying, "wow"!

It's likened to a first date in the "civvie" world where the gent invites you out, to a  
nice place, then proceeds to ask if you can "pay your half, or even "just the tip"!
Chivalry has since been lost, and is truly dead, if one encounters this type of first date.
{I personally have not, however, I hear of it, time and time again}

Why would a Hobbyist do the very same, by inquiring about giving one a discount?
It indeed, is not a good beginning.
How about this;  if you desire a discount, maybe say "I plan to see you weekly, and in
fact will schedule in advance with you for the month. {and actually follow through on
said schedule}
"Would you consider discounting the weekly a bit?"  
This, I would gladly work with; we all enjoy an occasional deal!
However, for the first date?  Rare, to lukewarm is my response.

I had an incidence just last night where a potential visitor said exactly this:
"Well so & so on BP charges this much xx?   Why are your donations more than hers?"
"Good question Sir," I  replied.  

"So & so" lives in an area which is far inland and is inexpensive to own or lease."
I did not say this however I was thinking this;
{Furthermore,  "So & So",  I happen to know, is married to a very wealthy
Lawyer, so she is completely free of any financial commitments of her own.  
Her "Provider" money is her additional  "play" monies."}

Did I really need to break it down for this prospective person?  
Yes, I did.  I felt compelled for many reasons, as he kept insisting I should give him
a huge discount.  

The topic of donations has readily been espoused on here and elsewhere
as of late.  
Not too many people have touched on the real reasons we as Providers, price our
donations as such.  There are many factors involved, however I shall touch on a few.
Just because a Provider is a Playboy model type, does not mean that her $600--$800--$1000
date is any better, or kinky, or sexier than, a $300/$400, Provider.

The factors remain very personal.  I personally designate many factors to my choice of donation.
1} is it worth it to me to be exposed to the world, my family, and my personal contacts,
    that I P4P?  That is the first and very foremost factor for me.
2} my monthly lease on my lair;  it is indeed not cheap because the location is prime  
    real estate, weather people think it or not; a  huge factor in my donation pricing.
3} I'm a CMT.  Yes,  licensed and educated, with specialization in Kinesiology, and  
     Professional Sports Therapy.   If only I could divulge my "client list",  
     {which I will go to my grave with},  however, it would impress even the  
     most unimpressionable.
4} My physical stamina, offerings, techniques, "suprises or treats" as the OP has said,
     nuances, and accoutrements.    

I'm told some $600/hr Providers just aren't very active participants in a date sometimes.
Yes, lovely to look at, however, lackluster performance, skills, and possibly other  
less savory aspects of a meeting have ensued.
   
However, some indeed are, perfection in every aspect of providing.  Once again,
it is always YMMV.
Regardless, it is a Providers' personal choice as to how she places her donation parameters.

If one chooses to give you adoring "extras", and feeds you grapes, then consider yourself
to be the perfect gentlemen whom arrives with tulips in hand, is freshly showered, smelling
great, and is one whom has the correct donation, and pays attention to boundaries, and
the time allotted....Extras, sure, I love a good kind man whom knows "chivalry should not
be dead"!  Maybe in the realm of "streetwalkers", however, we are not as such, so please
don't treat us that way luvs.  
     
Just sign me "an experienced Courtesan", and not "an In & Out Burger Joint"


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First point;  YMMV.  Even though not ALWAYS stated, IMHO every session a hobbyist has with a provider is YMMV.  It is so difficult to see ourselves as others do.  No different in our hobby.  Every guy on here who ever spent time with a provider is the sexiest, most gentlemanly, and puts the absolute highest priority on hygiene--at least in their own minds.  Consequently, the provider may not see you that way and hence although trying her best, may not be able to get past your breath (so no DFK), your poor genital hygiene (so only CBJ), and your demanding demeanor (so very shaky chemistry).  These could easily be why the "others" who reviewed her received service you did not.

Second point;  do you truly believe everything you read in reviews.  On more than one occasion, have noticed providers receiving pretty high marks on her reviews when somehow, a guy who was unhappy with HIS performance, rates her significantly lower than her other reviews.  Or conversely, some guy embellishes beyond not only the service a provider is willing to provide but duration of appointment and other factors other reviews may not support as fact.

Remember that guy down the block who told you he caught a fish which as THAAAAAAAAAAAAT big?  He was not the only person who's conclusions can be suspect on occasion.

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YOU will be having a YMMV day going into the date thinking she better be better than the last date or you won't see her again. That is just asking for the date to go straight into hell. Or purgatory. You choose.

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good with that. I will present myself as a clean well-groomed gentleman and expect a stellar session based on well-researched results including face-to-face meetings at M & G's.

I think I even should not  bother to tell that again and again - be a loving man, be her boy friend experience and she will give you all herself.
I know of course women who are in sex work for many years losing that love and believe in man .. yet it is your choice whom to meet and how to treat her.

It is who you are as human and as man.

I do believe firmly in a golden rule. You will harvest what you will plant.

Johns seeking services will get them.

Lovers who are seeking a woman - would find her.

 A Woman always would be a woman.

and man always would be a provider

the specifics in them might be a titillating read but it doesn't affect my expectations.

When I have an "ugh!" reaction it seldom is unexpected. I'm not psychic, contrary to myth, but I form my opinion within the first few minutes of the encounter (assuming we're talking about 1st session and not repeating with someone I've met).

So for me, YMMV applies ALWAYS, with the given that if something is conspicuously OFF the menu I am not going to hope for it to happen let alone try for it.

The thing of her being described as nice or sweet is the best example. She will react to some that way, but if she reacts to everybody that way it means no more than if she was NEVER nice and sweet to ANYBODY. I have types I get along with more than others, and so does she. If I THINK there might be some chemistry with a provider I've never met, then when I get there find a rather awkward connection, well that's how it goes.

I know that the GFE is just an experience that she provides for...whatchamacallit? Entertainment. But, OTOH, there is a an honesty revealed when I feel we're truly having fun together or not. If I started getting that feeling with every lady I see I would know it was totally dishonest most of the time. So there are women I've had great once-in-a-lifetime experienced with whose previous reviews were mediocre and those with nothing but 10/10s that were just meh. If you click you click, if you don't you don't.

But if I'm met with a kiss and a hug and a glass of wine and fine myself thinking she's not all that I suspected she'd be, it's likely that she's also disappointed. So we make the best of it. Next time it might be different. For each of us. Her next client might really turn her on so I don't feel bad about not being "the one," and the next provider might knock my socks off so there's no reason for her to feel bad. In fact it's a very good thing if there's a little less presence and a little more of a real communication in this game.

...it's simply unrealistic to do so. With so many variables between you and everyone else its unfair to expect exactly the same treatment from a very human provider. As long as I get what I want ("a pretty good session") I'm happy and will book her again.

There is a song for your lament!

just teasin'...

First tastes very. I hate the taste of fish. But a great many people love it. So sitting down to a well cooked fish dinner would be hell to me but heaven to a great many people. So the exact same session could leave you limp but could be very explosive to another. Many guys get off on anal play, I am just not into it. I love food play, I know those who think it is gross. Tastes very.

Second, communication styles very, and personalities very in their compatibility. Add in biochemical reactions like pheromones that can very by the time of month, birth control methods and health compatibility is far from certain. In spite of a ladies best efforts sometimes it just will not be there from compatibility issues. This is true for any partnership not just sexual ones.

Third moods are fluid and bleed into everything. I love my wife and the best sex I ever had was with her. We are very compatible. Yet sometimes we both have mailed it in and the sex was just OK. Mood effects everything, even when we do our best not to let it. Even with compatible parters both wanting please, sometimes then fireworks will be brighter then other just because of the mood coming in.

Life is YMMV. I don't let the little natural variances bother me. Now if we aren't compatible I move on, but I don't dwell on it. And when the extra special fireworks happen I try just enjoy it and don't worry if her other clients are getting the same. But yes I do tend to rebook after such encounters

What I most want is an interaction between me and a lovely sensitive responsive lady.   I have my own tastes and bring with me my own baggage (including what was good or bad about the day or two before the meeting.) I don't expect the same treatment as someone else who has different tastes and needs.  I also recognize that the lady I am with brings her tastes and baggage.  
My recent experiences (and --come to think of it those from long ago) have been more than satisfying.  I have had a great streak and I am grateful.  I never compare my meeting with those of others since I have been happy with my experiences. Of course, I have had two experiences over the past six months that were less than what I might have hoped (tho the lady in each case was clearly trying) and --like when I was dating between marriages-- figured it was just not a good fit and not worth a review.

Any time there's extra mileage it's a godsend. It's not mandatory for a great time, nor for return visits. Sometimes I don't have time for extra mileage, and need to see those, strictly by the clock, ladies. Sometimes I'm looking for a particular fantasy that only a certain, strictly by the clock, lady will do. That's cool. Sometimes I have all day, and will book those ladies with whom I have a great connection. Those sessions always tend to go over. The fact is, while it has happened, extra mileage doesn't usually come with the first session. It comes after many visits of building trust. Sometimes the connection isn't instantaneous. Sometimes it takes years of starts and stops.  

Case in point. Years ago there was this incredible lady I used to see. The connection was great from the start, and I used to try to book extra time whenever I could. If I ever had any extra hobby money, it went to her. Sometimes her sessions went over, and sometimes not. One day I got the bright idea that it would be fun to have lunch together. Of course her time would be paid for at her escort rate, and lunch would be on me. Big mistake!! While some ladies might agree to that, not so with her. Even though it was paid time, 'lunch' went against her protocol. Instead of just explaining that to me, and continuing our experiences, it threw her off, and she put me on her no see list. That was a sad day. Fast forward fourteen months, and she starts seriously flirting with me on the boards. Being hesitant about crossing any of her no see list boundaries, I sent her an email asking if she knew of any other wonderful ladies in her area that I might like. She said yes, that I should come see her again. And we were off on a many year journey. But here's the kicker. After that, each and every session included an off the clock lunch. Because of what had happened before, the first one was difficult. I was very uncomfortable. But she finally convinced me that her desire was genuine. Not wanting to rock the boat, I never asked her why her protocol changed for me. I just went with it. I miss those lunches. She used to bring out gourmet ho ho's for an after dessert dessert.

it seems like some commenting providers want to have it both ways - they take every opportunity to call this a business and if you want a relationship to go to match.com (which is a point well taken), but these posters then seem to approach these encounters we have as 'dates' that should essentially be subject to the same social choreography as social dates with civvies. You take what you get.   But if we want to be honest we all know these are NOT dates. oh, and these are not donations we're making either.  This is a service and a very expensive one at that; we are paying a pretty high fee for that service.  

Mongers are all look for something when we pay a provider.  I am glad there are some who don't care what they get as long as they feel good.  I prefer to get, at a minimum, what I thought i was going to get and all I'm saying is for those who want to treat their businesses as the businesses they are, know there may be one or two guys like me who read your reviews.  If you don't care, that's up to you but I like to go to businesses that care about the customer.

Now for those suggesting I have a checklist; I don't.  That I may have hygiene issues - I don't and I said that above.  I pay up front and I tip generously.  And I am not suggesting this I get less than expected often - but it;s becoming more and more frequent as if some women are just putting it on cruise control and figuring a blow job is easier so I'll just get him off and be done with it and not even have to get naked.  If I am just not feeling it with a provider and only give her $400 in the envelope instead of the $500 she was expecting I imagine the comments would be different as in that regard the provider does have a checklist - I pay the exact number of hundred dollar bills she is looking for.  

All I'm saying is that if I go to a steakhouse and people I am familiar with have told me how great the steak is, and I go for the steak and am willing to pay the premium price and forego other restaurants in lieu off the place I've chose, only to find that when I go there I see others people all around me eating steak but am told by the waiter 'sorry, sir - but for you it's hamburger' I will probably stay and eat my meal, it will probably be a darn good hamburger but I'm not coming back.

In the alternative, if I go to the same steakhouse, get a terrific steak I will go back, and if I get the terrific steak an they throw in a nice dessert then I am definitely coming back.

This is more a matter of how providers  want to run a business that carries a very high price tag.  There are enough guys who have chimed in here who don't seem to care what they get so long as they like it - great.  I will always be very respectful to the provider who gives me less than I was hoping for, but I won't be back.  And if you all want to be honest with yourselves I would guess that for hundreds of dollars an hour you would do the same in any business situation you found yourselves in.  If not, then you either have too much money or not enough self respect.