as they always seems to fall on a workday, and I'm bushed after a day at the office.
I have attended some while on vacation, and those were much better. Most of the time I chat with fellow hobbyists, as we have more in common. The gals seems to do likewiseFor the guys and gals who attend these... What's the overall experience? Pleasant? Awkward? I would think that if they were popular enough they would do them more often. Yet I only see 3 to 5 reputable ones a year. Would this be an indicative to stay away from attending these events? Thoughts???
Thanks imposter for pointing out the typo hahahah
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It is much more common to misspell or typo awkward (two w, as 'wkw') as akward (one w after the k) and much LESS common to misspell or typo it is awkard (one w before the k). I have no idea what the significance of that is, but it's a school-essay and college-essay fact.
I've never been to a M&G so they're all awkward, akward or awkard or even ackward to the same degree to me
Two were great and the third was very awkward. The one that was awkward had about three times as many men as women, while the other two were closer to even. I actually believe that one of them had several more women than men. Anyway, both were relaxed and fun. I would guess that if you are gregarious and outgoing, they are fun...if you are shy and prone to discomfort in social settings, they are awkward.
It is also quite possible that the organizational skills of the organizers is important. Both of the fun ones had food, a dance floor, and privacy. The awkward one had none of the three.
My philosophy for these proclivities are "avoid colliding worlds" and "deny, deny, deny"... so I see no reason to ever go to a M&G and expose my real self needlessly to countless others.
figure out how to get into a meet and greet while maintaining my anonymity, I would try one out, but as you say, connecting your person to your TER persona just seems reckless to me.
...thinking of RSVPing for an upcoming one in Chicago and would love to know what they're like!
Their success has a lot to do with the organizers. It needs to be a good party atmosphere with a good ratio of men and women. Setting them up takes a lot of work.
I generally like them. I hate the guys who monopolize girls. The purpose is to strike up a quick conversation, get an impression, collect contact info, and move on. I think the girls should resist being monopolized. It is to their advantage to circulate and work the room.
Also when I go, I refrain from drinking. Makes for a much better night. Some people get very sloppy drunk. Over the years I have met some wonderful women through mixers. Women who I would probably never have sought out other wise. The best is when women come up to you and say you look like someone they would like to meet.
Once at a mixer a really intriguing new girl was surrounded by guys three deep all night. There was no way I could penetrate that cock block. Finally at 10:30 when things were thinning out she came over to me and said she had wanted to talk to me all night. The next three months are a blur. 
So jump on it and do it.
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the ones i've been to have been great. i've met several ladies that i have formed great relationships with, most recently found a hot blonde college cutie that loves to do things with me at the last one this spring.
i highly recommend them, assuming they are properly set up, ie, great food, good location, good music, plenty of room in the venue to move around to meet people. besides who doesn't love a party?
Count me in!
Hey, BPJ, when you said you're with Phil, that was a surprise to me, I didn't know you swung that way, but that's cool. 😎
Keep it real bro!
dude
gender is fluid!
party on, senator!
...and we were fortunate to have Bond007 as the host. He was very stringent about screening hobbyists and providers to make sure everyone who was there was supposed to be there.
And you get to see the providers un-photoshopped, speaking of which - I even met Aldo at one M&G.
As a poster, I like meeting the guys too and putting a face to the handle. The only drawback to that is that it's hard to be an asshole to someone when you've met him in person.
Found him to be a pretty good guy with a wicked sense of humor....there's one or two others I've met but that's about it. Obviously BP is better at meeting people and putting faces with (screen) names.
But if anyone would like to introduce themselves offlist, feel free to PM me
I've only been to a few, but every one has been a great experience. And Phil is right to refrain from drinking. Very good advice. Me, I usually do have a drink or too over the night, but once I had one two many and it ruined the night for me. So, there's always going to be alcohol, but abstain if you can and keep it slow if you can't.
...so I have decided to forego these types of things.
I'm not a big fan of just turning up at an event and joining in when I don't know anyone. Will I be overdressed? Underdressed? Will anyone talk to me? Will hotel staff know what it is and stare like I'm a museum exhibit? Will the other ladies be friendly or bitchy? Aaaaaaaggghhhhh
Not worth the stress for me
Sometimes, yes, but the good outweighs the bad. We once used to have monthly M&G's in NYC, yet that is no longer so...the three big ones are still going, though. And I've also attended many in Vegas, Florida, a few in DC, CT, Chicago, LA...
Overall, I plan on continuing my attendance...
each has a life of its own, my experience different at each of the 4 I've attended. My intention is to meet women in the flesh and make dates accordingly. I always have a purpose when going to a social event, whether it's business or pleasure.
The first was awkward, met some interesting women but only fell in lust with one, a $$$$$ CA bombshell. Saw a few gals I'd been with already. I'd rate the group 7 for looks, with too few women and too many no shows... ho hum. My ATF was there and she blew them all away.
#2 was different. I wasn't at all apprehensive. Better turnout with better looking, well reviewed women. Closer to an even mix of guys and gals. Still no buzz. But I enjoyed? the meet market. Hohum+ but I met Mr. Fisher and we chatted briefly. Didn't want to bang him tho.
Several years until #3. I had nothing better planned and it was close. Interesting mix of women, met a few new faces and two bucket list gals. I'd talked with both about prior scheduling issues but we made plans to make it happen. Met two hot young things I didnt get a chance to speak with. Mission accomplished. Success.
#4 was off the charts. 4 of Boston's Top 6, 8 of the Top10 showed. My reason to be there! Primo out of town talent. A luncheon and the gals were dressed to kill. High entry fee, worth every penny. Miss Boston was cornered by the same gang for over an hour. Couldn't even catch her eye. You live and learn. I'll politely barge in next time to introduce myself. Poor thing. The ladies worked the room like a Hollywood after party. Wow. Had my eye on one gal who noticed and she approached me later ... a total seduction. Hottt
All in all, they were well run but you can't control who shows up. I do believe the expensive one had a caveat for guys and gals. Don't no show if you want to be invited back. Very few no shows by the gals.
The most interesting thing is no photoshop and FACES. Fueling the fantasy. I preferred the higher end one because it drew "different" ladies. They also controlled the number of guys that were invited. This in no way reflects on the other group. Just a different format. To each his own.
as for frequency, except for maybe LV, NYC and LA, I don't think the numbers are there for too frequently. Unless it was a more exclusive and successful high entry fee format. I'm not even so sure about LV.
There's usually a list of attendees. One Boston group lists guys and gals as Definite, Maybe or No. The more exclusive M&G only lists women who are attending.
If I were you, I might ask some of the ladies listed as going/invited directly. Some don't frequent this board to reply to your question. I also believe that success and format is different from city to city.
Don't do them. Public place, pictures taken, people who can't keep mouth shut. Hassle and not wise.
Thanks imposter for pointing out the typo hahahah
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Um no - NO pics. Some are public places, think that private party in the restaurant / pub's back room, others have been private suites, such as at a casino. Really no more than a couple a year are needed - for most anyway - meet say 15 ladies, two or more you click with. That may be all you need for months! Although I do remember one dude that pointed out ladies as 'That one for breakfast, another for lunch, and a diner date. I think he was celebrating... 
Thanks imposter for pointing out the typo hahahah
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Thanks imposter for pointing out the typo hahahah
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I've always been interested in hoping to one but have always missed out on them. IMHO they seem to be very "selective"
I know an agency organizes two(?) big ones a year in my general area but I have the impression that if you haven't had dates with this agency's girls then you most likely will get looked over. I fully understand that screening (etc) applies here too.
Where do I look for upcoming events? Is there a separate posting area for them?
Thanks
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I haven't been to many, but I find they aren't for the fiery-tempered hooker. Diplomacy and poise are far easier to manage online than in person. Many of the guys are great, but there are some bad apples who enjoy their power position. I attended a small, private one where a guy said loudly enough for nearly everyone to hear, "Her body is hot, but I don't know about the face" about a delightful spinner. In a regular social setting, this unattractive manlet would have been laughed out of the bar and the girl could have skewered him with no consequence to her reputation. He said it because it was his chance to do so without even being a paying client of hers.
Far more common may be the negging/back-handed compliments. "I'm so glad you came. I don't normally like [insert physical attribute here], so I might never have thought to see you based on your pics." Why, thank you. LO
But I haven't seen or heard anything remotely like that happen....
would it surprise me .... yes. But I certainly believe you. Look at all the acknowledged and accused assholes on here ....lol
As stated, it was at a a small, private event for a particular agency (a pretty good one considered to be 'essential' to the scene in the southeast ) with a couple of invited indy's. Perhaps that wouldn't happen at most, but it's still a position a provider has to be steeled for.
at the several m&g's i've attended, organized by several diff. people over the years, i can't imagine any one of those parties putting up with boorish behavior like that. i am happy to say that in los angeles the ladies & gents respect each other, in my experience.
This was a small event in a very active southeastern city some years back. The guy did get called out on the (no longer in business) agency's message board and he did apologize, but there was some debate as to whether he did anything bad or not. Some did seem to think he had a right to say what was on his mind. *shrugs*
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I've been to a few and co-hosted some with others and have always had a great time. Their a great place to meet new ladies and gentleman, network with others in the hobby and meet potentiality new clients.
There never seems to be enough of them :
as they always seems to fall on a workday, and I'm bushed after a day at the office.
I have attended some while on vacation, and those were much better.
Most of the time I chat with fellow hobbyists, as we have more in common. The gals seems to do likewise
the unfortunate truth is, to accomodate the married patrons, most m&g's are in the middle of the week so as to not necessitate a lie to get away from family on the weekends.
iow, single ppl once again pay the price so married ppl get the benefits, you bastids!
I can be bright eyed and bushy tailed for the party
With the various sites like TER and P411, you can identify, contact and meet almost any provider that suits your taste and wallet. You can do this from the comfort (and anonymity) of your computer, which is more efficient and less risky. For those outgoing types who like to socialize and intermingle, have at it.
there is the added bonus of seeing what a person actually looks like sans photoshop or covered faces before you have a session with them. men & women both benefit from this aspect.
in person. No need to verify pics on a website! If said provider gets a rise out of the little guy, then you have found a winner.
Meet them at an M&G and make a good impression, and good things will happen.
I have no interest in them personally. And it does seem like it might be a bit awkward.
Admittedly the first one I ever went to I was a little freaked out. But after going to my first, I really enjoy them. As has been previously mentioned, the host or hostess and the venue plays a big part in the success of the M&G.
Once you've been screened by the host or hostess, you normally go on the M&G mailing list and don't have to be screened again. Just like seeing a provider a second time.
I've always had fun and met some fantastic people. . I attended my first NYC M&G in July and loved it.
Steph xoxo
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The one I went to was great. Met lots of friendly and helpful providers and a few clients that booked me within the following week.
As far as photos go, no one should be taking photos. And if they are caught they will be blacklisted. Simple.
If you'd like to meet more like minded people then go, if you think it's best for you to be behind the computer screen then stay at home.
One person was caught from the Boston meet and greet in May, taking pictures of license plates of providers. The provider in question told the organizer of the transgression. The organizer told her that he has always been a part of the events and she was going to take the appropriate actions. No one who is part of these events should be taking photos, period. For the M&G goers.... Please just be careful. A lot of creeps out there.
As far as photos go, no one should be taking photos. And if they are caught they will be blacklisted. Simple.
If you'd like to meet more like minded people then go, if you think it's best for you to be behind the computer screen then stay at home.
I'm a wall flower in social setups like these in my business life. I don't drink or use anything else to get out of myself so being at an event that the women are there for two reasons, to meet new clients and meet some of their peers, it's great practice for the rest of the world.
It's the one place that, as long as i don't act like a dick, I'm not going to get rejected by the women there. That cuts out the performance anxiety and allows me to be ok with being me. How great is that.
It has helped me in other situations. I'm not worried about rejection any more. Even when that happens , I'm ok with it.
The meet & greets have been really good for me.
A side note: At one event the only woman in the place that was not a provider, picked me up. She was a guest of a provider and I ended up on a dinner date and awesome fun for dessert a couple of days later. That just doesn't happen.
A true confidence builder.
dude i was a terrible mess in bed in my younger years. i had no confidence and could not perform at all, thanks to my upbringing and various physical ailments. this hobby has allowed me to gain confidence around women both in and out of bed. i can't say enough for this hobby. it's done wonders where years of therapy did squat lol.
if there is any mutual interest, etc. No need to check a lady's website for pics or wonder if the pics are real, old, or whatever. If the provider doesn't look attractive to meet your social expectations--move on to another lady across the room.