An interesting observation ... from a guy who buys sex. I suppose you do it, not for your own pleasure, but for the good of humanity. Take a bow.
I've had a recent string of diehard keyboard "hobbyists" threaten me to go to the board to warn hobbyists about me when things didn't go their way. Like a child crying to mommy when they didn't get their way. Life happens. Shit happens and not at the moment anyone least expects it or wants it. The past few years men were understanding and nice but this year I have had a handful of clients turn into giant assholes on me. I am always happy to discount the date or give ample extra time for free to potential clients as a complete apology if I was running late or needed to reschedule. I had one guy this year threaten with "I'm gonna go to TER if you don't do _______ for me.." People biting the hand that feeds once again. Is this a new common theme? Why all the hate? Been reading around about guys posting threads on flakes on the board lately and can't help but feel frustrated. As most know we are dealing with 18-29 year olds and a bunch of old guys expecting the world from them in return as they sort through their life before they move on to a different field. Feels like the industry is just getting weirder and weirder with "hobbyists"...Any comment on how the hobby has changed as of late? I feel super lost and done with the hate/ fake niceness from hobbyists. Seems like the genuine nice guys are rare these days
But keep searching--the nice guys are still out there.
I assume all ladies have a life, "I" just don't care about it, as "your" life is irrelevant to me because we don't have a "real" relationship. Your life is your life, and it should have no impact on my life.
Personally, I am nice and treat all ladies with respect, I just don't care why you can't keep an appointment, I accept the fact you can't make, I don't even need an excuse, and stop blaming life, when you can't get on with your life.
I hate this term, but a friend of mine reminds me that it is a business transaction. What is good for business? A doctor who cancels on their patients (often) a plumber who never comes out after agreeing to an appointment? A customer who does the same thing to their hair stylist or a doctor too? Life happens which means shit happens and their should be some understanding that sometimes appointments don't work out. If a provider or a client develop a reputation as one who frequently cancels then it's normal to hear about such people.
Overall we do need to lighten up and respect each others time and have fun.
Personally, I am nice and treat all ladies with respect, I just don't care why you can't keep an appointment, I accept the fact you can't make, I don't even need an excuse, and stop blaming life, when you can't get on with your life.
People from both sides come here (or on regional boards) complaining. Sometimes the discourse reveals who's telling the truth, sometimes not. You are no doubt right that some guys use the threat of bad publicity on TER to get things they have no right to. But it's also true that providers mis-use TER to slam guys who simply gave them an 8 instead of the 10 they wanted.
It's endemic to this site. Complaining about it may make you feel better. But it will change nothing.
Old fools like you give out tens like candy with hope she'll see you again .
One of these days you'll realize, no matter the score, most women aren't attracted to frumpy old men attempting to act manly while wearing diapers.
As for you, when I clicked on the Inbox of your mind I got the message "this folder is empty."
It's part of the Opera. The Soap Opera.
You're right Jake, this place is misused. But so is everything else, including car insurance.
How's this for a nightmare date? A guy wearing khakis buys you snails. lmao
Even when not wearing khakis.
My dearest Jake.
The snail guy dumped me, don't you worry. I'm not good enough for him anymore. 
I did like him though. But - he dumped me.
I also disagree about you're not being good enough. I'd say you're far too good for him.
Oh, no. I'm good enough. I am just being silly lol.
You and Jake need to get a room. This romance is way too public.
we could have been a little dirtier. Then again, he's Jake from State Farm and is wearing Khaki's
On the phone late at night talking to husbands.
No, he wore a suit because I like men in suits. But I also like men in anything clean cut that fits to the T.
And guess what! I went to dinner with some ladies recently, and they ordered me a little plate of rice. Unbeknownst to me, they put a very bouncy, fresh, and tender naked shrimp on top of my rice. I looked in terror, and they both looked at me. Mind you, these are high class ladies who regularly attend michelin star restaurants, and charge 1,500-2,000 minimums.
So I was like - fuck it. Another snail story. So I moved the shrimp aside, and it slid and bounced, and the little stringy spectacles bounced in sync with the shrimp and I panicked. I started to sweat, and I knew my face was flush.
She looked at me, "What's wrong, Courtney? You don't like shrimp?"
I said, "I'm sorry - shrimp scare the shit out of me. I don't know why. I can't do it."
The good thing that comes out of that story is, we all cracked up, and both situations were pretty fucking funny lol.
So you know what the similarities between that big, black snail and the shrimp was?
The HORNS. They had HORNS on them. And the horns were flexible. Oh my god.
By the way, clean cut khakis with a nice button up shirt or polo is hot as fuck if you wear those Allen Edmonds shoes. The day I saw those and realized how attractive they looked, was the day I finally understood the Louboutin theory.
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She likes corn on the cob. But off the cob? If any gets on her plate she won't anything else there. So compared to her you're relatively sane. I did say relatively.
That whole snail and shrimp bit isn't uncommon? I tried scallops for the first time, and I ate them. I enjoyed them, followed by a nice shot of tequila.
But as much as people don't realize, some of these guys take us to some pretty exotic restaurants, as do other girls. It's quite common even to eat Turkey Testicles.
So what do you do when you don't eat Turkey Testicles, but your date wants to go to the Turkey Testicle Festival? Especially if it's a $2,500 date?
Edited to adhere to grammar nazi guidelines.
Them. There's a walk that men do in them. A discreet skippy cat step that is an Allen Edmund wonder. A New York step.
They look awesome.
Undress, but keep the shoes on. Yom nom nom
Why would someone roast you if your fair? A lot of young girls are always late and I just expect it.
Murphy's law is very much in play in the hobby. I have had 2 reschedules , 4 no shows, 7 lates, and one mad out of 24 dates. The reschedules were done ahead of time so no problem. The no-shows were due too good reasons and the agency sent a good replacements. They were honest and right up front with what happened ( wrecks, children broken arms, bad weather, etc. . Not first date choice but I was satisfied. The late arrivals were due too anything from traffic , party ( over slept), unloading a birthday cake for me, poor planning, client ahead not on time. Had a couple of girls come up behind me at the in call. Knock knock no one there. Lol. The mad was due to me ( newbie ) not understanding reviews and worked out problem. Had one transgender whitelist me and don't know why. Never had a dealing with him. Thought I was someone else I guess. All purchased time was received and accounted for through all this. I have never been late or not shown up. I wonder how understanding providers will be with me if I'm late or no-show? I drive 3 hours one way for a date. If a provider puts all kinds of penalty's for delays in her web site I avoid them. I have never had so much fun and such good sex in my life so what a great hobby it is. It's a shame I was 70 yrs. before I found out abut the hobby. Thank you girls.
you. While that is not happening, you have zero credibility on this boards. The one who gather info only from this boards is a fool and he is misleading the others. (though I don't care about every idiot who took your words seriously)
One bad review even if approved shouldn't be end all be all. If what the guy ask you to do is not human like don't do it. You could screen better get to know the guy first on phone. Only a few provider have reviews and only a few of those have meny reviews. This is why many provider try to get regulars. If she a ripoff it takes a while to stop her and she just get a new number. There ripoff on both sides safety should be number one.
...this is actually a good response...good for you...
then one asshole isn't going to cause problems for you as people will see that you are well regarded.
But if this is happening a lot to you, then you have to start looking where those other 3 fingers are pointing when you point the finger
came across to me like a DNS b@tch.
I understand using an alias to vent this thread, but really if you are getting several threats like this, you should probably look at yourself and see if you are on point. We providers can get tired...ok to take a healthy respite break and get refreshed.
I let the site know if I am being harrassed. I do not care what the outcome is. If they get several providers reporting the same name over and over, I assume they step in to school the gent.
Ever since I started, while I obviously needed to find my "niche", in the beginning when I was having some trouble figuring out how all this works, there were guys who did what is happening to her to me.
What I did realize, is people can make your life hell until you realize they can only do that for a short time when you actually are ethical and doing the best you can to be accurate, and do a good job.
These guys who threaten a single lady to put fear into her heart over things not going their way, by trashing her business name is sick. Especially when there are so many women of all categories and personalities that are similar amongst a lot of different price ranges, who all offer different services - some all - and those who offer it all are usually less expensive from what I see. It is obvious that some men (or other women) have an addiction to power.
It's not about things the provider is doing. It's about the power. So they want to find someone they disagree with, and have a play of power. The only thing they do, is they are cowardly and look for people they feel they have a strong chance of winning. (Weak. Don't pick on someone your own size bullies.)
You know why nobody plays with me anymore? I stopped caring.
And some of you haven't been without, so you don't realize what it feels like - "You're going to starve, and get evicted because I am going to ruin your business - and your income - IS a BIG deal. Not having money is SCARY for some. And they know that. And you know that. And I know that.
The problem is, when they bluff their power over her business, the lady eventually catches on to the pattern and stops falling for it. Then it's no fun anymore, because the fire stops with her. It's dissolved by "Ok, ok. Here's your gold star for being awesome, sir." and a "lol" to go along with it. Or just radio silence.
Now, there are some people who do intend evil. But those are the people who are the quietest, and those are the people I don't fuck with. There are people who send your real name and threaten to "out" you - but what they don't realize is, we fuck a lot of people from all over the world who can take that little blocked IP address and unravel that bitch in seconds if we really need to.
You just gotta fuck the right people. Guys are taking a risk with some ladies. But most just ignore, or they actually get afraid and upset.
So - to those guys - pick on someone your own size, and I don't mean fat. I mean size in power and ability to fuck you over just as bad, if not worse, than you threaten to fuck them over.
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At least I admit it.
I definitely, after reading it, believe it is only a play of power when the guy wants to see you under a "You did me wrong, now you owe me. I must win this battle of ethics. I have found my victim who has wronged me." *beats chest*
BUT - if it's a case of being late for years on end over and over again, and then carrying on with the theme even after "life" and "shit" has stopped happening means someone knows what they can get away with, and now is just doing it out of pure habit.
The best way to deal with this situation is to not book again. But shit - if a girl is constantly NCNS-ing, rescheduling, or cancelling - figure out a way to get your shit together.
There are ways to do it. Require a 24-48 hour notice. Establish guidelines, minimums, and prices that will make that date your first priority.
Never agree to nor list a price that will cause you to not care if you show up. Also don't list anything that will cause you to give less than stellar service, on time, and consistent.
I've fucked up. Once I fucked up twice on a great client. While he asked to bump the date back a half hour or an hour the same day, I knew I couldn't fulfill it but I still agreed to come earlier. Second strike - he stopped booking with me.
I changed my ways, because that was $2,400 per month I lost - and a wonderful client. I got careless, and I paid. He didn't, however, run to the boards and tell everybody. I'm lucky he didn't.
...just like a provider can (and do) do the same. Our local boards are the perfect place to do that. We hobbyists gotta have each other's backs.
AFA some hobbyists whining and threatening to out providers here for not getting what they want, well that's gonna happen. There are plenty of idiots out there. Don't paint us all with the same broad brush.
If you are having this many issues with this many guys is it possible the issue is YOU and not them? You are the one common denominator in all of these problems, are you not?
Sounds like you have a chronic history of being late, cancelling and maybe a few NCNS?
Isn't this board here to warn others of these concerns?
And why the disparaging remark about "hobbyists?" Do you think people here will listen to your rant by taking a shot at the client side of the business?
Maybe you need a vacay and a little down time.
Just a thought.
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If you truely make up for inconviences to your clients then you'll have nothing to worry about from a post or bad review. About all experienced TER hobbiests know that reviews of a unique coupling of 2 unique individuals will be unique & should be expected to vary within a normal range... and an outlier occasionally is no big concern. It's big swings that concern ME, especially a PATTERN of big swings in the ratings. Even the 'numbered' scores are of less interest as the details of a review as often an incompatability is revealed... and often not her fault. (She wasn't my type, I booked her anyway & she wasn't my type but she tried hard to please me.)
I'm actually concerned with all '10' reviews, unless she's both stunning & a rock star they are unlikely... like I said above I EXPECT a normal variance. One guys 8 is the next guys 9... but again the TEXT is more revealing to me. I don't want to find repeated '2's or '3's.
If you have a good overall review record, you have nothing to fear from a lone complainer. Expect that you may occasionally get questions on a low review... you should be prepared, without being nasty, to quickly deal with the question from a new client. "He wanted something I don't do." or "He wanted something unsafe."
best wishes, H.
I'm a person who is chronically late. It's just in my genes I guess. (Although they say that messy tardy (not retardy, assholes) people are exceptionally creative ...)
My bosses used to complain about my lateness. But eventually they give up. I've never been fired or laid off for being late -- because I produce.
So -- ignore the complaints -- but make it up in production
People that are chronically late are self-centered narcissists that believe no one else's time is as valuables as their own. It's bad enough encountering this in the civvie world, but when you are paying provider rates for someone's time it is especially disrespectful to be late. "Shit happens" is a lame excuse.
An interesting observation ... from a guy who buys sex. I suppose you do it, not for your own pleasure, but for the good of humanity. Take a bow.
a new P.C. softer, gentler attack? Your point is not very clear. I made this observation long before I ever paid for sex. It's not unique to the provider world. If you've never been the guy on time waiting for someone else, then you must be one of the disrespectful the ones who is chronically late, and I hit a nerve with my post. Your attempt at sarcasm is just lame.
I was addressing the OP as the placement of my response shows. But after reading yours, I can see why my post got your nose out of joint, prompting the nasty reply, but as they say, if the shoe fits . . .
Anyone on this forum (including myself) who points fingers at others and says "narcissist" is going to elicit guffaws from me.
stand up to someone . . . . oh wait, you're an alias. In that case, that's the way to stand up to someone while you're hiding under a rock. Lol
I never knew that
I totally get it, though it has yet to happen to me. I usually take care of this by browsing the forums and keeping up with the posts of hobbyists. Any hobbyists who are grade A buttholes get ignored/ blocked, I also keep an eye out for those who have certain attitudes about the hobby, and post too often. I also read the reviews they left for fellow providers.
The overall tone of a gents review, board posts and comments tell you exactly what you're dealing with.
Not necessarily.
There are plenty of keyboard cowboys out there that are 180 degrees in real life from their online persona.
But if you want to use that criteria to screen, more power to you. We ladies and gents hobbyists are sometimes not what we seem, and that isn't always a bad thing.
reviews are nothing like my posts. I've been told it seems like two different people. Maybe I am.
Yeah, we all get that sometimes plans don't work out and something unexpected occurs. That should be a very rare occurrence. Personally I've never had any appointment cancelled or been told it needed to start late -- though I have had to reschedule one (absolutely no parking available within walking distance and I kept looking for 15 minutes while on the phone with the booker).
What I'm not sure about in your case is how often it's happening with you. It sounds like this is something of a regular occurrence with you. If so perhaps you've simply gotten a reputation for it but perhaps indicated to the guys who are now more demanding that it won't happen? We don't know -- and I get why the alias and not making any issue out of using one in this case -- what the story is, what your reviews look like or what the client complaints were.
So, in general, yes if things occasionally go wrong and you're late or have to reschedule and give the maximum notice you can I think most can understand that and go with it. If you're one of the people who just cannot organize you own life -- or it's so messed up or complicated with other commitments perhaps this is either not the line of work you should be in or you should expect the outcomes and live with them.
anyway.
Not everybody is on the hobby board. I can't imagine any decent man who is going to dump his money on you is going to participate in any "strike".
I could be wrong, maybe every man in this hobby is on those boards. Maybe 100% of men who hobby are girly gossipers and back stabbers.
We may never know.
As far as I'm concerned, I couldn't imagine you would desire to see people who are even secretly like that. So if those guys who are listening to "Mr. Powerful", I do imagine that's only good, not bad for you. Cuts out a lot of work for you.
UNLESS they all pile on and try to get discounts to get you to lower your rates. That's annoying.
This applies to both providers and clients. If I don't like the way a provider does business I have a very simple solution, I don't see her anymore. I don't care about discounts or apologies, I care about good TCB and a good session. If I wanted a lower price I'd see a lower priced provider.
Well, my only comment would be to make your screening process more thorough including ( if you don't already) talking to them on the phone.
Do whatever you feel to do. That board is for for old farts who make appointments once a month or two or for just virtuals who never booked the girl at all. With your experience do whatever suits you the most. And only you. Xo
potential clients--NOT.
attract new customers would NOT say the things you say about various groups of hobbyists, so we KNOW you're NOT trying to attract.
that is why you have not had any new reviews in the last 10 days. Is your mail box full so hobbyists can't even leave you a message?
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she doesn't have a clue about the concept of marketing.
And your presence here is somewhat marketing technique?
Is because I'm not Hispanic, so I never got to appreciate as s child how much fun a piñata can be.
A lot of hobby trends tend to be regional or start out that way. If there has been a recent spate for you, have you reached out to other providers in your area to see if they are experiencing the same thing lately?
2nd 1 or 2 guys may just be spoiled a-holes. A "string" makes me think they may actually have a valid point and there really is something you need to address in your interactions before they start negatively effecting your bottom line - this is probably WHY you hide behind the alias.
Few things drive me as crazy as last minute cancellations or no pick ups on call number 2 when I am at the incall location. Granted that has mostly gone away since I joined here. But TBH I have decided to not try a provider based on reviews stating made people wait or cancelled. I am not overly demanding and try to make sure she gets some enjoyment too. However I do expect her to be clean and on time.
If I hear something really bad about a provider I have ALREADY seen, I naturally measure it against my own experience and usually it makes no difference.
If I hear something bad about a provider I've NEVER seen, I might make a mental note and scratch her off my list. That happens in a couple of seconds.
If I hear something bad about a provider I PLAN on seeing, I pay attention, do a little deeper research, check reviews or reviewers to see if they report the same thing. Actually that has only happened to me once, I had a couple of days to cancel, which I did, so I don't know if it was smart or not.
RE: "bad"
NCNS, bad pics, and upselling are probably the kind of things I consider I consider bad. Hard drugs, badgers, STD...this kind of stuff would be real bad.
RE: threats
But if a client is going to wreck you he (or she) might as well just do it instead of rattling his tail.