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I'd like to remember the name of everyone I've bedded. When I think back, there's always a new name that pops up. I'm lucky in I've been pretty good handicapping hookers. Luck is always worth having on your side, even if you have unlimited funds.

If keeping records works for you dude, fine ... I'm just happy I've had a blast with some of the hottest women one could imagine ... and I've had my share of IRL smokeshows. The hobby just affords more to select from with successful track records to make your selection.

Every once in a while I put on my nerd hat and crunch some numbers just because it's fun.  I keep a log of every P2P encounter rated from 1 to 5.  5 is excellent, 1 is terrible. Zeros are not allowed and only whole numbers are used.  This forces me to do more than be ambivalent and put 2.5 down.  I have to decide better than average or below average.  No average cop out allowed.  I sorted by Performance, then Appearance.  Rates are for one hour and were converted to USD at the time I changed the currency.  In places like Mexico (MX), I did not change currency but paid in USD.  When I only paid for 30 minutes, I doubled the rate to keep it apples to apples.  When I paid for the entire day (24 hours), I divided the rate by 24.  That is why my lowest rate in Thailand (TH) is $14.90.  Paid the lady by the day.  I thought about posting what I have spend over the last 12+ years but it is an embarrassing number ;-).  
 
- ISO Country Code is where I saw the lady  
- Ethnicity is my best guess.  If I did not know, I asked and took her answer  
- Total is how many women I saw in that country of that ethnicity  
- Rate is self explanatory.  Highest paid and lowest paid.  
- Appearance is subjective.  I called them as I saw them.  
- Performance is based on attitude and interest more than anything else.  The better I felt walking away from the date, the better her rating...even if she did not apply any "special moves".  
 
Enjoy!  
 
 
ISO Country  
      Code          Ethnicity            Total           Hourly Rate in USD         Appearance   Performance          
 ---------------  ------------------ ------- -------------------- ------------- ------------ -------------  
                                                             Low                  High                                            
  TR                 White                  4        $83.45               $161.11              4             5          
  US                 Native American  2        $250.00              $250.00            3.5             5          
  PL                 White                  4        $67.19               $156.67              4           4.5          
  UK                 White                  2       $223.80              $260.76              4           4.5          
  AU                 White                  3       $342.46              $456.92           4.75          4.33          
  NL                 White                  3       $294.37              $367.82           4.33          4.33          
  UK                 Indian                 3       $226.76              $298.64              4          4.33          
  US                 Indian                 4       $250.00              $300.00             4.25          4          
  NL                 Palestinian           1       $281.32              $281.32                4           4          
  FR                 Persian                1       $312.59              $312.59                4           4          
  US                 Jewish                 5       $250.00              $300.00              3.8          4          
  TH                 Asian                 22       $14.90               $93.56              3.77           4          
  UK                 Arab                   1       $247.87              $247.87                3           4          
  CO                 Latina                 7       $91.43               $143.76             3.71         3.85          
  DE                 White                  6       $143.56              $233.21             3.71        3.85          
  US                 Asian                 67      $160.00              $300.00             3.91        3.83          
  CA                 White                  5       $250.00              $400.00                4         3.8          
  US                 Latina                22       $160.00              $320.00              3          3.68          
  US                 African American 6        $250.00              $350.00             3.66        3.66          
  US                 Caribbean           5       $250.00              $250.00              3.8          3.6          
  MX                 Latina                15      $130.00              $150.00             3.53        3.6          
  DR                 Caribbean          17      $55.43               $121.68             3.35         3.52          
  PE                 Latina                 3       $74.59               $114.32                3          3.33          
  CR                 Latina                 7       $45.00               $60.00              3.28        3.28          
  US                 White                 22     $230.00            $1,200.00         3.13          3.27          
  RU                 White                 4       $147.47              $232.11                4        3.25          
  TH                 White                 2       $149.22              $174.39              4.5           3          
  US                 Chinese              7       $160.00              $220.00                3         2.71

This graphic is sheer perfection... I'm really surprised TER let him post it ... even more surprised he hasn't copyrighted it ... he'll be able to spend a week in Thailand with the royalties. 12 years and still going strong .... congratulations ... bury that bone sir

I did this for my own benefit but thought other would find the information interesting.  I spent a great deal of money conducting this research.  ;)

I have had the worst experiences with Chinese AMPS early in my hobbying days.  Russian and US White providers have ripped me off the most or provided the poor experiences.  I tend to have "fat' tails with these groups.  Really positive experiences or really negative experiences.  Not much in the middle.  The best experiences come from countries where prostitution is legal or very much tolerated and the stigmatism is not as heavy as it is in the US.

-- Modified on 7/13/2016 6:38:33 PM

do you have time for sex?  Lol

I spent more time formatting it for TER than producing it.

..crunching numbers or seeing escorts. I can't get through this shit. No fun.

Lol.v they both have their rewards.  My idea of a good time is having a young lady smoke my pipe while I read Moby Dick.

thar she blows...a hump like a snow hill.....

Posted By: cspatz
 
 ...crunching numbers or seeing escorts. I can't get through this shit. No fun.

GaGambler704 reads

"Why don't I write reviews???"  

I tried keeping track of all the women I was fucking once. One drunken weekend in Costa Rica fucking at least a dozen different Chicas while "Muy Barracho" cured me off that shit. On Saturday morning I really wasn't sure even how many, much less "which" chicas I had fucked.

I agree, crunching numbers is no fun at all.

Skyfyre453 reads

if we have a key to the country code. Some are fairly obvious: US, MX, UK... but some are not: TR, PL, NL..

TR = Turkey
PL = Poland
NL = Netherlands

souls_harbor719 reads

Searchable ISO country codes at link.

Posted By: Skyfyre
if we have a key to the country code. Some are fairly obvious: US, MX, UK... but some are not: TR, PL, NL...  
   
 

Bet he'll tell you, though it would be best if you told him you would keep it confidential, and honor that if he does.

DariusX61483 reads

Dude, so you're telling us that in 12 1/2 years of mongering across the globe you have never been with anyone above a "5" for appearance or performance??

Your own data backs that up lol

DariusX61480 reads

Ok...IBAD! Please accept my apologies. I carelessly missed that part lol. I guess I was totally blown away by the attention detail that was put into all that info!

There have been a few but they get lost in the averages.  There is a selection bias at work.  I tend to be weary of "5" appearance so I don't tend to select them as much.  I don't find myself to be as comfortable as I would in someone that is more at my "level" of attractiveness.

Posted By: DariusX61
Dude, so you're telling us that in 12 1/2 years of mongering across the globe you have never been with anyone above a "5" for appearance or performance??  
   
 Your own data backs that up lol
-- Modified on 7/13/2016 11:25:08 PM

Isn't that what it's about?
Having fun?  
If you can't have real fun? Don't do it.
You'll just regret.

I"m sure that you'll get discharged eventually.  Do the nurses know you are accessing the Wi-Fi

Maybe he's still struggling with the admission to his shrinks about just watching a rape...and not reporting it.
 

Posted By: JackDunphy
He needs to reach out to me.

Nobody likes raw data.

That said, too many apples and oranges when you try to reduce everything to a common currency and hourly rate, plus your heavy preference for Asian skews things, not to mention having Asian and Chinese as separate categories. Is there a general shortage of Palestinian and Persian escorts in your area? You have high scores but low frequency. How did you account for a provider you saw more than once?  

Nice effort and congrats on the overall body of work though.

I'd like to remember the name of everyone I've bedded. When I think back, there's always a new name that pops up. I'm lucky in I've been pretty good handicapping hookers. Luck is always worth having on your side, even if you have unlimited funds.

If keeping records works for you dude, fine ... I'm just happy I've had a blast with some of the hottest women one could imagine ... and I've had my share of IRL smokeshows. The hobby just affords more to select from with successful track records to make your selection.

I think your data set is pretty interesting. You note that it is just averaged data and don't claim to be trying to prove a Great Theory, win a Fields Medal in Math or a Nobel Prize in Economics. You don't need to dig deeper for hair length or tattoos or find a Higgs Boson buried in there.

Posted By: tw1st
Every once in a while I put on my nerd hat and crunch some numbers just because it's fun.
But I do have a question: is your handle pronounced "twist" or tw-one-st = "twunst" or some other way? (I am imp-poster as imp-poast-as-in-toast-er, NOT im-PAH-ster as in imposter.

When you submit you 25 review you get you data average and graph.

Posted By: tw1st
Every once in a while I put on my nerd hat and crunch some numbers just because it's fun.  I keep a log of every P2P encounter rated from 1 to 5.  5 is excellent, 1 is terrible. Zeros are not allowed and only whole numbers are used.  This forces me to do more than be ambivalent and put 2.5 down.  I have to decide better than average or below average.  No average cop out allowed.  I sorted by Performance, then Appearance.  Rates are for one hour and were converted to USD at the time I changed the currency.  In places like Mexico (MX), I did not change currency but paid in USD.  When I only paid for 30 minutes, I doubled the rate to keep it apples to apples.  When I paid for the entire day (24 hours), I divided the rate by 24.  That is why my lowest rate in Thailand (TH) is $14.90.  Paid the lady by the day.  I thought about posting what I have spend over the last 12+ years but it is an embarrassing number ;-).  
   
 - ISO Country Code is where I saw the lady  
 - Ethnicity is my best guess.  If I did not know, I asked and took her answer  
 - Total is how many women I saw in that country of that ethnicity  
 - Rate is self explanatory.  Highest paid and lowest paid.  
 - Appearance is subjective.  I called them as I saw them.  
 - Performance is based on attitude and interest more than anything else.  The better I felt walking away from the date, the better her rating...even if she did not apply any "special moves".  
   
 Enjoy!  
   
   
 ISO Country    
       Code          Ethnicity            Total           Hourly Rate in USD         Appearance   Performance          
  ---------------  ------------------ ------- -------------------- ------------- ------------ -------------  
                                                              Low                  High                                            
   TR                 White                  4        $83.45               $161.11              4             5          
   US                 Native American  2        $250.00              $250.00            3.5             5          
   PL                 White                  4        $67.19               $156.67              4           4.5          
   UK                 White                  2       $223.80              $260.76              4           4.5          
   AU                 White                  3       $342.46              $456.92           4.75          4.33          
   NL                 White                  3       $294.37              $367.82           4.33          4.33          
   UK                 Indian                 3       $226.76              $298.64              4          4.33          
   US                 Indian                 4       $250.00              $300.00             4.25          4          
   NL                 Palestinian           1       $281.32              $281.32                4           4          
   FR                 Persian                1       $312.59              $312.59                4           4          
   US                 Jewish                 5       $250.00              $300.00              3.8          4          
   TH                 Asian                 22       $14.90               $93.56              3.77           4          
   UK                 Arab                   1       $247.87              $247.87                3           4          
   CO                 Latina                 7       $91.43               $143.76             3.71         3.85          
   DE                 White                  6       $143.56              $233.21             3.71        3.85          
   US                 Asian                 67      $160.00              $300.00             3.91        3.83          
   CA                 White                  5       $250.00              $400.00                4         3.8          
   US                 Latina                22       $160.00              $320.00              3          3.68          
   US                 African American 6        $250.00              $350.00             3.66        3.66          
   US                 Caribbean           5       $250.00              $250.00              3.8          3.6          
   MX                 Latina                15      $130.00              $150.00             3.53        3.6          
   DR                 Caribbean          17      $55.43               $121.68             3.35         3.52          
   PE                 Latina                 3       $74.59               $114.32                3          3.33          
   CR                 Latina                 7       $45.00               $60.00              3.28        3.28          
   US                 White                 22     $230.00            $1,200.00         3.13          3.27          
   RU                 White                 4       $147.47              $232.11                4        3.25          
   TH                 White                 2       $149.22              $174.39              4.5           3          
   US                 Chinese              7       $160.00              $220.00                3         2.71

NoYellowEnvelope459 reads

... and maybe even make some money on it, you could create a predictive model for yourself and other mongers.  This model would allow mongers to predict provider appearance and performance, based on classifiers of country, ethnicity, rate etc.  You'll need to build your training and test data sets and select the appropriate algorithm, eg Naive Bayes. You might need to add more classifiers to improve the accuracy of the model.  Wouldn't that be tons of fun?

You'll also probably need to enlarge your data set by gathering more data.  And that will REALLY be fun!  ;)

Lol...now we are talking!  It don't have access to the data to really do that...I don't think anyone is going to volunteer that data either.  I thought about posting something like that but my data is not rich or dense enough and besides, it would only be interesting to me.  I decided on this because it is simple enough for the layman to understand.  

I thought about posting median cost and media ratings but then I would have to explain how medians worked.  I ran a query that returned results by year but the formatting was too complicated. I decided to keep it simple.

I started keeping a list the first time I had sex.  I decided I wanted to always be able to remember the names of my partners, and some pertinent facts about each experience, not to mention progress toward my life-time goal of the number of partners I was going to have sex with.   When I started hobbying,  I turned it into an Excel spread sheet, so I could total things up, and added "cost factors" as well.  So now, I can tell, for example,l how many BBJTC I've experienced,  and the average cost per.    

I never figured this to be for anything but my own amusement, and in my case, ADD and seven semesters of accounting are probably to blame.  But it's been kind of fun to keep it going all these years.

-- Modified on 7/14/2016 6:40:26 AM

...at some point. Thanks for sharing all this data. Pretty interesting.

Your hourly rates in MX seem higher than I'm anticipating for my upcoming trip in TJ...maybe you saw higher-end escorts than I intend seeing over there or mongered in nicer locales like Puerto Vallarta, etc? Just curious for budgeting purposes.

AU brothels are the best.  Escort services are fine too.  Never had a problem; I love AU and TR girls.  Take your time and choosing the girl that works for you.  If that girl is not present, don't compromise.  Go someplace else or wait for someone to come available who may work for you.  Settling is always a lackluster experience.

As for MX, I used a service.  CuminTJ and hotandsexylatinas.  Prefer CuminTJ; I know what I am going to get, the booker is first rate, and the negotiating in clubs is exhausting.  I can never really relax.  I'm not into that wild scene beyond having a beer or two and getting a full contact lap dance if an interesting lady comes along.  For a couple of bucks, you can put your hands on or in almost anything.  Take hand sanitizer.   Seriously; extra strength and use it often.

Lap dances do not get recorded but they are usually 10 or 20 bucks if you negotiate well.

Most ladies will change 60-80 per half hour.  The really hot ones will charge 100 plus.  In my experience, chemistry is more important.  Most of the 5's have plenty of business coming their way and don't need your money.  They turn and burn you so I don't play.  I like equitable arrangement; being on the losing end of a deal makes me angry.

I stay at Hotel TICUÁN.  I'll go to the clubs; have my fun, then meet an escort back in my room where I have a safer and more controlled environment.

Posted By: JoJo15783
...at some point. Thanks for sharing all this data. Pretty interesting.  
   
 Your hourly rates in MX seem higher than I'm anticipating for my upcoming trip in TJ...maybe you saw higher-end escorts than I intend seeing over there or mongered in nicer locales like Puerto Vallarta, etc? Just curious for budgeting purposes.

Hey man,

Thanks for your response with pretty good information. Heard about cumintj and also mexicolindobar for reliable escort services in TJ, hadn't heard of hotandsexylatinas until you mentioned it. The girls look hotter on hotandsexylatinas but the rates are commensurately higher it seems.

Definitely plan on using some escort services (for some overnights in particular), but really want to sleep with some of the girls at HK and other clubs. My intel was telling me that girls at HK and such were 80 for the HOUR and you can negotiate it down further on slower days/nights + my Spanish is pretty decent having traveled throughout MX and South America. Is it really 60-80 for the hh as you say? Just wanted to make sure.

Thoughts on staying at a hotel like Ticuan (like you did) versus just the ones in HK club? I'm there just for the mongering and I heard that you can't take club girls to your hotel room if it's at a different location.

Also plan on joining the VIP membership at HK club. Was HK the best of all the clubs in terms of girl attractiveness?

Will bring the hand sanitizer for sure, haha.

Definitely need/plan to do more research in the coming week, haha. Any thoughts you have are helpful, thanks in advance!

Posted By: tw1st
AU brothels are the best.  Escort services are fine too.  Never had a problem; I love AU and TR girls.  Take your time and choosing the girl that works for you.  If that girl is not present, don't compromise.  Go someplace else or wait for someone to come available who may work for you.  Settling is always a lackluster experience.  
   
 As for MX, I used a service.  CuminTJ and hotandsexylatinas.  Prefer CuminTJ; I know what I am going to get, the booker is first rate, and the negotiating in clubs is exhausting.  I can never really relax.  I'm not into that wild scene beyond having a beer or two and getting a full contact lap dance if an interesting lady comes along.  For a couple of bucks, you can put your hands on or in almost anything.  Take hand sanitizer.   Seriously; extra strength and use it often.  
   
 Lap dances do not get recorded but they are usually 10 or 20 bucks if you negotiate well.  
   
 Most ladies will change 60-80 per half hour.  The really hot ones will charge 100 plus.  In my experience, chemistry is more important.  Most of the 5's have plenty of business coming their way and don't need your money.  They turn and burn you so I don't play.  I like equitable arrangement; being on the losing end of a deal makes me angry.  
   
 I stay at Hotel TICUÁN.  I'll go to the clubs; have my fun, then meet an escort back in my room where I have a safer and more controlled environment.  
   
Posted By: JoJo15783
...at some point. Thanks for sharing all this data. Pretty interesting.  
     
  Your hourly rates in MX seem higher than I'm anticipating for my upcoming trip in TJ...maybe you saw higher-end escorts than I intend seeing over there or mongered in nicer locales like Puerto Vallarta, etc? Just curious for budgeting purposes.

I estimate that you've invested about $60k in the past 12 years in the hobby  My second marriage lasted 6 years and cost me a lot more that that! Good wor

I did my research and found a solid local provider that was in her early 30s.  Emailed back and forth a few times and I set a date.  The session went well so I asked her if she had any friends.  Rest was nothing but good times.  Find one good lady and let her guide you to the rest.  Be a good American.  Gracious, generous (does not mean spend a lot of money), don't get stupid drunk and dress well for the region (don't over do it).  I find most foreign women are interested in an American who can hold a conversation and presents himself well.  Being an American has proven very beneficial overseas.  Especially in Asia and Australia.

"Every girl is crazy for a smart dressed man". ZZ Top

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I estimate that you've invested about $60k in the past 12 years in the hobby  My second marriage lasted 6 years and cost me a lot more that that! Good work  
   
 

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