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borabora 15 Reviews 662 reads
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.....by the type of Indians we meet in our professional and social lives. Most of these are doctors, academics and corporate executives. Never noticed issues such as disrespect to women or poor hygiene.

It is possible though that the ones who visit cheap hookers behave very differently.

Onlyalurker3369 reads

That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.

GaGambler803 reads

I think you should go back to lurking.

Onlyalurker770 reads

I am not sure what your point is. What's wrong with my numbers? If you could stop with the name calling for a moment to explain, would be nice. :)

I suspect you could easily check your claim with either some data set from the UN/World Bank or the CIA Factbook. Even Google will probably get you something you could reference insdtead of just making crap up.

Onlyalurker798 reads

It varies today between 10% and 17% of the total world population. You can check it out yourself. So I am not making crap up!

and realize that he's probably not that off? Maybe it's 75 or 80 as there's more mixing and ambiguity, but general, vague "white" people make up a very small percentage of the total work. It's really not that crazy to estimate at 90%.

GaGambler795 reads

If he had said, "most" or even "overwhelming majority" or anything along those lines, I wouldn't have taken issue with his post, but to claim 90% and then double down on stupid by claiming it might be more than 90% just proves he's a fucking moron, not worth being taken seriously.

So yes it is crazy to estimate at 90%. Europe has a population of over 700 million alone, mainly white. North America another 500 million plus people and South America adds close to a billion non black, non Asian people to the mix. Toss in another 150 million Russians who technically live in Asia, but most definitely are not considered Asian. Do I really need to keep going ? I can't even believe I have to defend my statements here.

Between Asia and Africa alone you're at 5.5 out of 7.2 billion. In my head I was counting all non-white because much of South America is more non-white than white, butttt semantics, it's up for discussion.  

90% as I said is overreaching but, it's really not that that off. The US is majority minority. Many former Soviet countries have more people who look Asian than don't (Kazahk, Uzbek, etc).

So it's not exactly so cut and dry. This isn't the Price is Right, by going over the number, he doesn't lose automatically.

Agree to disagree because I don't think anyone wants to take on the gargantuan task of categorizing people and counting them worldwide, but while it's not there, it'll be there soon. Europe and other Western countries won't just suddenly have large increases in birthrates and the non-white countries will continue their upward trends

GaGambler842 reads

In fifty years, the world may very well be 90% non white, but the OP's statement will still be incorrect as there are various shades of brown that while not white or Asian are most definitely not of African heritage either.  

The OP plainly said that Blacks, Indians and Asians make up 90% or more of the CURRENT world population, THAT statement is patently ridiculous and I can't believe ANYBODY is trying to defend it

It is about 62% white and when white-hispanics are added it is about 77% or so, but either way whites make up the overwhelming majority.

And remember the OP said AT LEAST 90% world wide and that statement is provably false.

bigguy30665 reads

Also including white-hispanics is a stretch by you. Lol

Posted By: JackDunphy
It is about 62% white and when white-hispanics are added it is about 77% or so, but either way whites make up the overwhelming majority.  
   
 And remember the OP said AT LEAST 90% world wide and that statement is provably false.

The only thing that matters to me if a hooker is excluding 90% of the population is that I should have no trouble getting an appointment. Does that sound shallow?

GaGambler470 reads

The river CDL is a mile wide, but only an inch deep. I would most definitely say you are shallow.

but you make a VERY valid point. I like the way you think. Of course with over 7 billion people on this planet, even excluding 90% of them still leaves an awful lot of guys to fuck.

Posted By: Onlyalurker
That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.
And strictly speaking, no Asians already covers Indians. If she goes that route she should mention every individual Asian country instead of "no Asians.....no Indians"

You know. If I were to bust chops on that.

"No Laotians, no Macedonians, and absolutely NO Greenlanders"

Posted By: jackwparsons
 
Posted By: Onlyalurker
That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.
   
 And strictly speaking, no Asians already covers Indians. If she goes that route she should mention every individual Asian country instead of "no Asians.....no Indians"  
   
 You know. If I were to bust chops on that.

In the UK, Asian means a person with ethnic roots in the Indian subcontinent.

GaGambler730 reads

Although India is most definitely part of Asia, as is most of Russia, when referring to Asians here, most people mean Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Pacific Islanders and anyone from SE Asia.  

Indians are usually treated as their own category and Russians are usually just considered White.

souls_harbor558 reads

The difference between white and black Russians is the cream.

Posted By: GaGambler
Russians are usually just considered White.

wrps07933 reads

There is a perception that Indian men and middle eastern men are rough with the women. That is why SOME providers avoid them.

GaGambler747 reads

but on this rare occasion you are actually correct.  

It's a lot more cultural than racial, my point of course still remains. the world's population is NOT 90% black and Asian. When a person makes a statement THAT dumb, it's hard to take anything else he says seriously.

Onlyalurker803 reads

So let me see, there is a perception that black hobbyists are pimps, Indian and Arabs are thugs, and Asians can recognize other Asians. How long before a provider says no Jews? There's a perception they are cheap

I think all such inquiries get referred to Jack Dunphy lol.  

Posted By: Onlyalurker
So let me see, there is a perception that black hobbyists are pimps, Indian and Arabs are thugs, and Asians can recognize other Asians. How long before a provider says no Jews? There's a perception they are cheap.  
 

yellow,brown. They wish these people would just disappear. RACISM will never end,never. This provider can provide off whites only.It will take her a lot longer to get rich but at least it's not that colored money.............PRETTY SICK,huh?             Yes yes it's her choice, so cross her off and move on to someone that deserves your cash and time.

I knew being a Cholo would pay off sooner or later...come get me bitches!!!.......lol

GaGambler619 reads

otherwise you are just a spic, one step down on the food chain from us Chinos. lol

I could pass myself as Spanish,Italian,South American and sometime European... so I guess that puts me one leg ahead of you chinks....which for you,there's no getting around that

GaGambler698 reads

PLUS, I never get harassed crossing the border, nor do people expect me to cut their lawn.

on the down side, they do expect me to own a restaurant, and then there is that whole thing about white people expecting me to know where their laundry is. But all in all, in the 21 century at least, having slanted eyes has nowhere near the downside that it once did.  Much less than you "beaners" thats for sure. jaja

souls_harbor517 reads

That's close to true (more like 70%) , but unless you are hooking in Bangladesh it doesn't really have a bearing.  The worldwide black population is less than the white population.  It is Asians and Indians that take up the top spots.  But being overpopulated and hence poor for the most part, they are unlikely to being sex touring to the Americas any time soon.
 

Posted By: Onlyalurker
That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.

An escort who had unpleasant experience with a client might believe that all men of that racial/ethnic/cultural group would be bad. That impression is likely to change when she a good experience with another person of the same group. Most though don't generalise their impressions based on one encounter.

From what I know, most Indians in the US are educated, wealthy, and well behaved professionals.

souls_harbor710 reads

It's always difficult to generalize from the individual case.  But in fact there are trends.  I recall one provider on this forum somewhere saying she had no trouble with black men, but had problems with India men.  

There really are cultural influences and they do affect our interactions.   As I always say, most of this stuff is cultural and not racial -- other than certain races tend to adapt to certain cultures due to family heritage.

Posted By: borabora
An escort who had unpleasant experience with a client might believe that all men of that racial/ethnic/cultural group would be bad. That impression is likely to change when she a good experience with another person of the same group. Most though don't generalise their impressions based on one encounter.  
   
 From what I know, most Indians in the US are educated, wealthy, and well behaved professionals.

GaGambler649 reads

A LOT of white people can see very little difference between someone from lets say Saudi Arabia or Iraq and someone from the Sub Continent.

souls_harbor696 reads

Actually there was a pretty funny youtube video of a group of asians bragging how they could identify different asian faces (chinese, korean, japanese, etc.)  So the group of them took a test.  They did no better than 50/50.  

It isn't magic.  You are going to be able to distinquish faces from the ones you've seen.  If you don't see a lot of them you aren't going to pick up on the subtle (yet common) differences.

Posted By: GaGambler
A LOT of white people can see very little difference between someone from lets say Saudi Arabia or Iraq and someone from the Sub Continent.

GaGambler712 reads

It's quite another to lump them all into one homogenous group.

Want to get your ass whipped in a hurry?

Step one, go up to an Armenian guy and ask him is he is Turkish.

Step two, right after he indignantly replies back to you that he is Armenian and NOT Turkish, simply reply back "same thing" I would advise ducking, but it won't do you a bit of good. lol

souls_harbor805 reads

I'm supposed to worry about a guy stronger than I am?  Hell, half the women on the planet are stronger than I am -- and the rest are like 6 years old

Captain_obvious502 reads

I'm just going to ignore the rest of the noise and address the main topic. Providers refusing to see Indians is very rare. In fact this is the first time I've even heard about it. I'm an Indian living in the US for the last few years and have seen a lot of providers (white, black, Asian, Latino) but have never been refused. I actually mention my race specifically in my intro email and have always been treated with respect (which is of course reciprocated).

The lady you refer to must be a very rare exception and this must've been her personal preferences. Not sure about being rough, but a very common stereotype (not completely untrue) about Indians is they smell bad and are not groomed well. But other than that I haven't heard many bad things from providers about Indians.

So my advice (in case you want it), move on and respect that provider for her choice.  

Posted By: Onlyalurker
That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.

Skyfyre772 reads

It's possible she based it on her past experience that she didn't find the smell of curry or turmeric agreeable! LOL

souls_harbor679 reads

That's a point, also true genetically with Mediterraneans.  They eat garlic and it pours through their skin.  I work in the technical field and there are lots of Indian software people.  You can tell when the come back from lunch.  

Posted By: Skyfyre
It's possible she based it on her past experience that she didn't find the smell of curry or turmeric agreeable! LOL

Captain_obvious606 reads

haa haa. not sure if you're serious or joking but it may be true.

Posted By: Skyfyre
It's possible she based it on her past experience that she didn't find the smell of curry or turmeric agreeable! LOL

I personally have had more negative experiences with Indian & Pakistani men than positive ones.  BUT I have had a few GREAT Indian/Pakistani clients over the years!  ;-)

Yes, some ladies refuse to see them due to bad experiences.  I don't blame them.   I just screen extra-hard. ;-)

Asians?  As in Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, etc?  I personally have no problem with them, except sometimes the very short & small-framed men make me feel like the Jolly Green Giant in comparison lol.   Just saw an Asian guy today who's a good half-foot shorter than me.... awesome guy, but I felt HUGE when I was on top of him.    
Hell, I'm pretty sure my left tit is bigger than his head.  Not the right one; she's smaller than her sister. ;-

I think it has alot to do with the mentality of their culture where they believe woman are second class citizens, I've worked in a major city along side many Indian and Pakistani men and this seems to be there views.

souls_harbor511 reads

You know that is a fantasy of some guys.  Come from the time of pre and post puberty -- when the things that trigger males are typically in older (taller) women.   I'm just average height at 6', but my first adult girlfriend was 5'11".  My wives have been shorter than that, maybe 6-8 inches shorter.  When I had my affair with that ex-girlfriend I could compare and contrast the feeling of sex with body size.  It was no contest -- it felt tons better with the taller gal.  I can't really explain why -- it just felt like there was something more substantial to hold onto.

Posted By: Debra_Hollander
sometimes the very short & small-framed men make me feel like the Jolly Green Giant in comparison

Epicurus61720 reads

The one who mentioned it to me only does FBSM, but she mentioned hygiene, and a reluctance to even take a thorough shower if asked. Since many FBSM girls don't do much screening, she just doesn't allow a second visit.

Epicurus61545 reads

or she's allergic to feathers and war paint.
You get too much fire water in those types and all hell breaks loose.
How many self respecting hookers would do an outcall to a wigwam?

You obviously didn't read this thread, or you would know that we're talking about Indians from India, not Native Americans.  You're also full of stereotypes.  My ex-wife is Native American, I've been around lots of Native Americans all my life, and I got along fine with most of them.  Just like I get along with most whites, Asians, Indians, Blacks, and Gays.  The people who I have never gotten along with are fucktards and their relatives.

shad0wwalker535 reads

I used to be a provider and I did see a lot of Indian clients. My area had a large population of Indians and they love white women. Unfortunately, in my experience, 99% felt that you were not even a human being. Most thought of me as some sort of inanimate doll. I was slapped, bitten til I bled, held down against my will, hair pulled out, nipples twisted til I screamed. Those things were regular occurrences but occasionally there would be a decent Indian client who was at least cordial and not abusive.  

I saw all types of clients and never was I treated like the Indian clients treated me. On top of that, many don't wear deodorant and don't shower before they come to the appointment

Captain_obvious593 reads

i'm very sad and sorry to hear this. I wish I could get  chance to meet you and in some way change the way you think about Indians. I can assure you that I shower before and wear a deodorant too :-)

Posted By: shad0wwalker
I used to be a provider and I did see a lot of Indian clients. My area had a large population of Indians and they love white women. Unfortunately, in my experience, 99% felt that you were not even a human being. Most thought of me as some sort of inanimate doll. I was slapped, bitten til I bled, held down against my will, hair pulled out, nipples twisted til I screamed. Those things were regular occurrences but occasionally there would be a decent Indian client who was at least cordial and not abusive.  
   
 I saw all types of clients and never was I treated like the Indian clients treated me. On top of that, many don't wear deodorant and don't shower before they come to the appointment

That's really sad to hear. Would definitely like to meet you and try to change your overall impression on Indian clients.

Please avoid any race that treats you in this manner, your safety should always come first.

Posted By: shad0wwalker
I used to be a provider and I did see a lot of Indian clients. My area had a large population of Indians and they love white women. Unfortunately, in my experience, 99% felt that you were not even a human being. Most thought of me as some sort of inanimate doll. I was slapped, bitten til I bled, held down against my will, hair pulled out, nipples twisted til I screamed. Those things were regular occurrences but occasionally there would be a decent Indian client who was at least cordial and not abusive.  
   
 I saw all types of clients and never was I treated like the Indian clients treated me. On top of that, many don't wear deodorant and don't shower before they come to the appointment

The image of Indian men treating women with brutal disregard and general humiliation colors perception.

That could be seen as a risk of high consequence.

While generalizations about any group are often inaccurate, anecdotal information I have heard from several providers would seem to indicate gentlemen from that part of the world are avoided by them for a few reasons. Namely, smell/odor, which while acceptable in their culture is unpleasant in ours. Related to that is hygiene. Attitude toward women, which has been manifested in treating providers inhumanely by beating them and in some cases wanting to urinate and defecate on them. One provider also told me she was contacted by a prospective Indian client who wanted her to service him, his wife and grown daughter as a group in the same date. She declined and eliminated other Indians from those she would see after that. Typical of all Indian hobbyists, probably not; but it helped me understand why some providers avoid individuals from that part of the world. This business involves too intimate contact for some to want to risk it in such cases. But I'm certain other providers are fine with seeing these gents. So as always, if one won't see you just move on to a lady who will.



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....by booking with as many beautiful Indian women that I can find.

It won't help the guys, but I can only do so much ;)

We should avoid making broad assumptions based on what a couple of women said about their experiences. Some factors to take into consideration are the socioeconomic status and education of the client, and status of the prostitute, whether she is a high class call girl or a painted tart soliciting on the street.

Miatreasurebox523 reads

From my experience and its not begin racist. Until you know what that provider went through you shouldn't judge. My experience is that the indians I had smelled. I'm not trying to be fun or mean. I had a client after one indian left and the next client said that my house smelled. It took hours for the smell to go away it lingered. That isn't the first impression you want a new client to say. Second they don't want to play the price that is told and want everything and the kitchen sink. They also don't want to respect your rules. So that is from my experience. It simple respect the provider and have good hygiene before you see anyone.

Posting under an alias and making generalization based on N of 1

First, I'm a naturalized American citizen who is not white and who has lived in USA for 25 years. I work in white collar computer industry in Boston and interact with a lot of foreigners specially Indians. Most foreigners specially from poor male dominated countries like India arrive here physically, but mentally are still back at home which causes problems trying to fit in a new society.  

Here are some reasons why Indians/Pakistanis/Bangladesh might have problems with an escort.
- Smell caused by curry or other spices is really bad.
- Hygiene with ears, nose and specially the mouth.
- Being extremely cheap even when you are in a good financial situation
- Thinking you are better than somebody else because of the "CASTE" system back home.

When you meet an escort, please help disprove the stigma around Indians by being polite and show common courtesy which will go a long way.
 

Posted By: Onlyalurker
That's in addition to no AA, and no Asians which I am familiar with. FYI the provider is not Indian. Demographically speaking Asians, Indians and blacks make up at least 90% of world's population.

I have discussed the topic with some providers, that was my impression.  Also, there was an event that certain date check website required Indians to clearly profile selves as such, not "Asians".

.....by the type of Indians we meet in our professional and social lives. Most of these are doctors, academics and corporate executives. Never noticed issues such as disrespect to women or poor hygiene.

It is possible though that the ones who visit cheap hookers behave very differently.

with curry powder on it.  Is that the same?

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