I posted two threads for guys to be careful about girls coming in - getting their money and then saying oh they forgot something and will be right back...
I have received many questions from guys asking how that situation should be handled.
The honest answer is I really do not know.
I would "think" if the provider is truly coming back, it should be a no brainer for her to leave the money with you so you know her intentions are pure ESPECIALLY if SHE FORGOT something.
I would think if the gentleman offered to walk her to the car, he would know there is an issue if she starts to say no that is OK, however I also understand many guys cannot be seen at a hotel so this simply is not an option or perhaps you just do not feel like getting dressed. But if she is intent on ripping him off, walking her to the car is probably not going to help anyway.
I am making a spot on my site to really make sure newbies seeing unknown ladies know what the heck to do, PLEASE give me solid advise on how I can help warn guys if they are in this situation of how to proceed
Sometimes we consumers need to realize that we do our best to find a reputable provider, but it may not always work out that way. This did happen to me, she came back, all was good, but I know how unsettling it feels when it happens.
A newbie needs to understand that this game we play is a game of chance. We hopefully find well reviewed providers where the chances of an unhappy ending are slim to none, but if there is a cash and dash then there are other ways to get the word out through the TER community and after doing so life will go on - hey, it's only money.
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Nobody in this world has to take unnecessary and unneeded chance. Like the OP said all the provider has to do is return the money in full before leaving the room. What's so hard to understand the concept?
Please explain why wouldn't you have politely and nicely ask her to leave the money before going out? what were you afraid of?
I read reviews and meet up with providers who have outstanding reputations. I pretty much know who I'm dealing with. Perfect system? No. But a risk I'm willing to take. I don't mind being the first one to trust.
And per your questions, I have a pretty good history of understanding concepts, and I don't recall mentioning I was afraid of anything, so for those other points you raise, I'm afraid I have no answer.
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It goes both ways. I had (AS A PROVIDER) was in a situation where the so called "CLIENT" acted as he was calling the Police in order to get a free session. What a fucking joke!! After that I inform the clients that they have to pay upfront or no services will be rendered. This so called "CLIENT" used a threat to rip me off of money that I was entitled to. It's exactly the name of the game. Just do not be played as a fool---Use your common sense. That's the best advice that I can give. If a client is stupid enough to fall for a line when a Provider says "I left something in my car. I'll be right back." and he gives her the cash upfront, then he's as dumb as he looks.
coming back. That's why I never pay upfront. Also good for surprises like : oh by the way forgot to mention it's that time of the month
no fix or advice to give; just wave good bye to your money and the BP girl. What could she have forgotten in her car?
... and to answer your question - her pussy!
Prostitution outdates cars by millennia
You'd think the moderators would have realized where my reply was to go.
that the DMV will not give you any info about who owns the plate. Years ago they did. However, with all you computer nerds on this site you may know a way? That info could come in handy and be a crime-stopper in itself. So how did these bitches run off with our money before cars and horses?
Unless you were law enforcement or had friends in law enforcement (or the DMV) who would bend rules and get that info for you, I don't think any large metropolitan area ever freely gave out DMV owner info based on plate numbers.
That info could come in handy and be a crime stopper as you said. It also could be used for a lot of bad things like stalking and harassing.
I'm with you. . I know I have a bag ready to grab that has ANYTHING I would possibly need BEFORE I get to the outcall. That way you can't forget a thing. It's better to not waste either persons time.
xoxo
I am making a spot on my site to really make sure newbies seeing unknown ladies know what the heck to do, PLEASE give me solid advise on how I can help warn guys if they are in this situation of how to proceed.
Experienced guys who enjoy TOFTT already know how to handle those situations.
Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel anyway? Just direct the newbies to TER and other hobby sites. You don't really need a newbie guide on your site.
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Definitely not trying to reinvent anything, only help.
I see a lot of people who have never (or at least say they have never!) seen a provider.
I would much rather take an hour out of my life to update my website knowing how much info I have given out over the years- I wish I had thought about this idea years ago.
If a guy does not want to read it, he does not have to but since almost every person I see has complimented me on my site for all the info, if this can help more - than why not?
I've personally met with TOO many men who have been screwed over.
I have NEVER had any female hobbyist or couples bring up getting scammed.
I'm not asking these guys - they are asking me - and if I do not think I have a good answer - there is no reason not to ask.
I am making a spot on my site to really make sure newbies seeing unknown ladies know what the heck to do, PLEASE give me solid advise on how I can help warn guys if they are in this situation of how to proceed.
Newbies should see reputable reviewed ladies. These things don't happen with reputable ladies.
Experienced guys who enjoy TOFTT already know how to handle those situations.
Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel anyway? Just direct the newbies to TER and other hobby sites. You don't really need a newbie guide on your site.
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The "why not" should be obvious. On the NB they will get both guys and gals answering them, from both perspectives without indoctrination or a one sided view.
They will also get far less info from your site.
No need to reinvent the wheel.
All I'm saying is that I like your screen name!!!!! Brendaboobies!!
KristaKrotch... ok, nooooo.
KristaKansCan. That's catchy!!
Lol!!
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I have received many questions from guys asking how that situation should be handled.
The honest answer is I really do not know.
I would "think" if the provider is truly coming back, it should be a no brainer for her to leave the money with you so you know her intentions are pure ESPECIALLY if SHE FORGOT something.
I would think if the gentleman offered to walk her to the car, he would know there is an issue if she starts to say no that is OK, however I also understand many guys cannot be seen at a hotel so this simply is not an option or perhaps you just do not feel like getting dressed. But if she is intent on ripping him off, walking her to the car is probably not going to help anyway.
I am making a spot on my site to really make sure newbies seeing unknown ladies know what the heck to do, PLEASE give me solid advise on how I can help warn guys if they are in this situation of how to proceed.
Read her reviews. Google her name and number. Research her. Any complaints of rip offs should be noted and taken seriously. It is, in my opinion, grounds to not see her. Backpage is a big gamble. It is already known for plenty of bait and switch pictures, which brings me to another point. You get there and the lady looks nothing like her pictures age and poundage wise she is being deceptive. What makes you think that she would be honest in any other ways concerning your adventure? It already isn't getting off on a good foot. If you are expecting that 100 pound busty bombshell and instead her heavyset mom (or that is what it looks like!) greets you and says hello! Are you ready for fun with me or whatever just leave. Stop thinking with the small head. It's not worth it. Disappointment and possible rob situation. Nope. Just leave and give no donation. She should not be rewarded for being intentionally misleading
"Hi, I'm Ursula, [your date's] screener. Thank you for [the envelope]. I'll go get her."
Never let anyone bail out early with the envelope.
I was going off what Brenda posted - "I posted two threads for guys to be careful about girls coming in - getting their money and then saying oh they forgot something and will be right back... "
The post I replied to mentioned forgetting something in the car, and Brenda did mention walking the thief to her car.
I believe rip offs predate actually prostitution encounters, because it's easier - cheaper - and faster to rip someone off versus performing an actual service. I'd also wager "most" prostitutes have ripped a guy off before they have ever performed a service for a fee.
I would stand between her and the door and say with my hand out "fine, but the money stays with me till you get back."
I have received many questions from guys asking how that situation should be handled.
The honest answer is I really do not know.
I would "think" if the provider is truly coming back, it should be a no brainer for her to leave the money with you so you know her intentions are pure ESPECIALLY if SHE FORGOT something.
I would think if the gentleman offered to walk her to the car, he would know there is an issue if she starts to say no that is OK, however I also understand many guys cannot be seen at a hotel so this simply is not an option or perhaps you just do not feel like getting dressed. But if she is intent on ripping him off, walking her to the car is probably not going to help anyway.
I am making a spot on my site to really make sure newbies seeing unknown ladies know what the heck to do, PLEASE give me solid advise on how I can help warn guys if they are in this situation of how to proceed.
For being one of the few having balls
Enjoy your stay in the county jail pending assault charges.
Yes , kiss your money goodby . You ain't seeing it or the lady again.
The idea of her leaving the money on the table as an assurance she'll return is laughable . Once she has it in her clutches , trust me....she isn't letting it go.
But don't get mad at the scam babe. Be mad at yourself . If something like this happens it is because you've been scheduling with BP ladies with no reviews.
For newbie gents to see well established providers and not a provider that has no history but has sexy pics.
I have heard of this scam for so long now different places same scam.
Never give someone money to get a room and hope they will come back
Reading through all the lame responses I don't understand what stop these guys from simply open their mouth and utter a simple polite and as nicely put request as possible "May I ask that you please leave the donation in the room before walking out the door"?
Are these dudes that intimidated and cowered in front of women? Sad..
Who that replied here are cowering, or have no balls?
Of course the correct answer is if the lady is going to grab something she "forgot" you don't let her leave with your money. That is the correct answer only IF you were stupid enough to get into a situation like that in the FIRST place! Most folks here are not that dumb, and most of the answers to Brenda, and what she should be telling her friends, is DON'T get into that situation! Duhhhh.
I'll hold it for you until you come back. If she needs to buy condoms, give her a small bill & keep donation until she gets back.
There is really nothing to do. Imagine she says, "I'll be right back." You say, "leave the money if you leave'. She says, "No I'll be right back." You both now know the deal: she is leaving and plans to leave with the money. It is clear, what do you do? Call the police, get into a physical struggle for the money? Oh please.
Or you walk her down to the car, she goes to get in and will lock the door and drive off. Do you grab her?
Face it, if the "lady" plans to leave with your money, you are not going to get into a physical fight with her about it.
Or image she doesn't even do that. You pay her, she puts the money away. She touches your dick a few times and says you are done and she goes to leave; what then?
Face it, if you're anything like me, you will not get into a physical or even loud verbal struggle over this so if she is set on taking your money and running, she can do it quietly or if you want to make a big fuss, with yelling and fighting and what ever manifestation you can live with.
Good luck with that.
And...Most likely she is working with an accomplice who probably has a gun-so best to just write off the experience and figure that perhaps you have dodged a "Real Bullet" !!!
You can of course ask her to leave the money-she might just do that..........but..........you are the vulnerable one in any meeting with a gal-not her (Not that there aren't enough wierdo's out there) but she can holler rape-etc...at any moment and there you are...
(Although I’m not V.I.P, sometimes it says it strongly in the introductions.)
I was interested in seeing this one gal in my home state. At the time, I liked her pictures and her only introduction review on TER looked promising. Then, at a later date, I looked and there were two more reviews. Below is a summary of all three:
May, 2016:
First review was a good introduction and client said he’d repeat.
June: 2016:
Second review, the client said she was at his place for 2 minutes. He said she was the girl in her pictures and he described a specific to identify her. He then stated that she asked him to show the money and to wash up. When he was in the bathroom, she looked in quickly, then took his 300.00 and ran.
June 2016: Third review client said he had an okay time.
How truthful are the above? Well, it would be best to be V.I.P. and read the details, but there is enough information in the second review to lead me not to book with this provider, ever. (At the most, the second review serves as retribution to warn others' about the dishonest provider.)
Ontheotherhand, if the second review is not truthful and is vengeful or devious, then the provider needs to get many more positive reviews to get past it. But I’m thinking, any careful client concerned about how he spends his hard earned money, will most likely pass on seeing her after reading the rip-off review (true or not).
So, I understand what Dr. Joe is saying and what you’re getting at, because when in the situation dealing with a thief, if you accost her by prying for the money; the outcome can be much worse and even dangerous (as the activity is not completely legitimate to justify the action legally).
So, I suppose (as OPs have stated in this thread) doing your homework will lead--more likely than not--to success with providers having multiple up-to-date reviews. I also tend to think that the true professional will value positive reviews and obtain them because she’ll most likely delivers to what’s stated in the reviews. She’ll also be on Prefered411 or Date-Check etc, or a website where a client can track what city or town she is located in throughout the year. She has nothing to hide; she is a professional that knows how to run her business. For newbies, as well as those that value being careful, going with well reviewed providers is the best bet to avoid getting ripped-off
If you know a lady is legitimate the risk of her running of is minor. It is like any cash business know who your dealing with before you book. If I did my homework then I wouldn't worry about it. I figure the money is spent already anyway.
If you are seeing someone new or someone you didn't do your homework then you take your chances.
A few years back I was visiting a well-reviewed (but a bit flaky) provider for our first meeting at her in-call. As soon as I arrived, before any fee was exchanged, she told me that she had to go downstairs to give some money to her sister who was waiting in her car. I thought that her pimp was about to appear and would relieve me of my billfold and maybe even get physical. As soon as she closed the door I stepped outside, saw that she was walking toward the front stairway so I went down the back stairway. When I got to the parking lot I saw her talking with another woman who was in a car. Conversation ended, woman drove away and provider went back into the building. I'll never know the real story because I didn't go back up.
Or please let me check to make sure the envelope is where I put it with the contents left inside. If the service provider is being honest, then she would not mind leaving at least the payment behind. After all, I can get comfortable again, and the service provider can go back into the bathroom, check the envelope to make sure things are fine. Also, I would informer her that I am going to time how long it takes, because that is how much more time should be tacked onto the date. You leave the room for any reason, other than me being a total asshole, then the clock stops. Even though I am not a VIP on this site, I make sure any women I might think about hiring have more than a certain number of reviews, because that number gives me some assurance that the woman is for real.
Do not, under any circumstances, leave a relatively secure location (such as your own hotel room) with a girl in this case. She's either ripping you off, or she isn't...and if she is, you want her to be as far away from you as possible as quickly as possible. Even inside your own home is MUCH better than being outside.
And if it is a location you do NOT have control over...i.e, her hotel, get dressed and put your shoes on, and make sure your laces are tight. You can give her a few minutes to come back...but if she doesn't come back in like 5 minutes or so...get out of there as quickly as possible. It just isn't worth it.
Bottom line in these cases is to be very, very careful. You should assume your night is already ruined...and realize that no amount of cash in an envelope is worth facing down the barrel of a gun. If you can convince her to leave some or all of the donation behind, ok...but you should be primarily concerned with your physical safety at this point