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Posted By: SavannahStJames
I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  
   
 In the beginning, I was very trusting and I made a lot of silly mistakes. I gave people the benefit of the doubt because obviously, when we're sharing such intimate experiences, how could anyone ever tell a lie? I remember the look on my "booker's" face when I came out of an appointment and handed him a personal check signed by my client, John Doe. Lmaoooo  
   
 Anywho... Having to maintain my screening requirements, which are pretty standard, has been very tough lately. Guys don't want to give personal info for employment verifications; they don't belong to sites for fear of a trail; either they haven't seen anyone or the women they have seen are fly by night pros or the women they have seen would give them shit for seeing someone else..  
   
 What am I suppose to do? Had a conversation with someone today via email and he sounded reallllly cool, but he didn't want to give up any info. I understand that. But the trust he was asking me to give him seemed inappropriate.. I looked at my responses and it made me look as if I were some twit, lounging in my apt on a satin pillow, popping my gum and being unreasonable.  
   
 What's half way? I don't want u to send photo copies of your passport but at the same time, I need to know who you are...  
   
 P.S. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like to know a guy's name before being asked if I CIM.. Just sayin lol

I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  

In the beginning, I was very trusting and I made a lot of silly mistakes. I gave people the benefit of the doubt because obviously, when we're sharing such intimate experiences, how could anyone ever tell a lie? I remember the look on my "booker's" face when I came out of an appointment and handed him a personal check signed by my client, John Doe. Lmaoooo  

Anywho... Having to maintain my screening requirements, which are pretty standard, has been very tough lately. Guys don't want to give personal info for employment verifications; they don't belong to sites for fear of a trail; either they haven't seen anyone or the women they have seen are fly by night pros or the women they have seen would give them shit for seeing someone else..  

What am I suppose to do? Had a conversation with someone today via email and he sounded reallllly cool, but he didn't want to give up any info. I understand that. But the trust he was asking me to give him seemed inappropriate.. I looked at my responses and it made me look as if I were some twit, lounging in my apt on a satin pillow, popping my gum and being unreasonable.  

What's half way? I don't want u to send photo copies of your passport but at the same time, I need to know who you are...

P.S. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like to know a guy's name before being asked if I CIM.. Just sayin lol

Protects you from LE and a$$holes you wouldn't want to see, us hobbyists from ladies who are not worth seeing.  Your job is tougher...you have to depend on guys providing you with accurate info, having a valid P411 or other screening profile, references from other providers, and hope for the best.  We guys have TER reviews, PM's possibly from other hobbyists, and our own intuition.   No matter what, it's always a leap of faith that the person you are in contact with is on the level.  Just the nature of the game...

...well, let's agree that the screening process isn't the highlight of the overall interaction lol however, I am grateful that there are still quite a few hobbiest out there who, like you, appreciate the process and are prepared. You don't know how many times I've been the middle man between a guy and the agency he uses as a reference. Talk about phone tag!  

Some screening processes are so standard that I end up getting a little insulted when the suitor actively tries to get around it. Ulimately it feels like, "wow, are you that jaded that you can't give me the benefit of the doubt?" And I'm stuck saying, "Come on!... Even if I were to accept your Costo Card, not only is the pic crazy blurry but your memberships expired!" FOH!

 
Stop Busting MY Bean! Give me your info in the first email

We have a lot more information about a provider before booking a session than the provider has about us. If the girl isn't on P 411 and has no reviews I probably will pass. But providers get info through screening that we don't - legal names and home towns. Screening works both ways to ensure our mutual safety. If the guy asking to see you won't cooperate, it's your choice to say no.

I think it's important to be screened. I personally love a lady who does a little investigation on me before we meet.  I find that ladies who take a little bit of time to find out about what I am like in person - tend to have a better time.  

With that being said I think there is enough information to be gained by just doing your homework.  I won't give out my personal information, place of employment or my real name because I don't want that coming back to bite me in the ass later.  I have enough of a body of work that you can find out anything about me by making a few direct inquiries with the right lady.  

You ladies all use an alias and do not give us your personal information, real names or place of employment for those of you who have "real jobs" - so why should we do it?    

You can still play safe and screen clients at the same time - i just might take a little more effort.  I respect you for taking the time to thoroughly screen though.  It tells me you just won't see any body

Personally, I always provide the info any lady asks for at a minimum, and approach it as if I am responding to a personal as I would on a dating site.  This has served me well over the years, and always do it front.  

As for what you ladies go through screening us, the time is must take to go through all of that administrative BS... :X.

if they don't send you the info you need right away, do you really need their patronage?

if you're feeling magnanimous, then send them a second email outlining exactly what you need, and stating the fact that if you don't get the info you need the conversation is over and they need to move on

because of a deep love affair with a very jealous and very wonderful women.  When that needed o end, I found myself with no recent references.  I am self employed, what to do?  
I had been on TER for years and I joined 411, but no OKs yet.  I did find a lovely and charming lady who would see me and send in an OK then there followed others.I was grateful to the first one. I understand the need for screening and would not feel comfortable with someone who did not do that, but for certain of us, it is not easy to get a foot in the door.

..that wasn't my intention. I always have a hard time expressing my tone on this forum. Seems like I'm angry and exasperated...but that's just the Hispanic in me.. We're loud even in writing.  

That's nice that she did that for you and I have my share of people who I've trusted in one way or another and who've done right by me. Unfortunately, it's getting to a point lately where too many inquires are requesting a lot of faith. If providers started getting lax on the screening process, then we'd all be in trouble, right? You were one person, asking for one favor, for one time only... Providers get a steady stream of those favor requests everyday and the more we feed into picking and choosing who gets easier screening, the more the favors will pile in.  

The amount of personal info you guys give for screening is pretty ballsy, which is why I try my best to make you feel as comfortable as possible. But if you ask me... I'd much rather give one website my info, such as P411 and receive Oks then pass around my government to random people I barley know.

Nothing you wrote seems insensitive. To me, it must take courage to see someone in your hotel room or his/hers and not know anything about the person and be prepared to get intimate.  I find 411 excellent because I give one web site all my information and then can reassure providers now that I have seen a number or providers. Being here on TER also helps.  I used to have a large number of ladies who white listed me, but that suddenly disappeared for no reason I can tell.

...and the British flag. Then look down the left and find "show white list" if the little box doesn't have a check mark in it your white list won't show. Click the box to place a check in it and your white list will show.  

Also your white list won't show when you access your reviews through the My Reviews link on the My TER page or from your Account Manager page. You can access your white list by clicking "more" at the top of the My TER page and then click My Referrals or look at Quick links on the left of the My TER page and find "My Referrals" click that and you'll be taken to your white list.

Im with Crazy Diamond on this one. Screening is for both of our benefits.

We, as men, can know something about you. We can see pictures, reviews, posts, etc. A lady wouldn't have many good reviews, nor be in business long, if she was using the screening info to do inappropriate things. Therefore, I feel it's in both our best interests of she knows a little about me. I'm asking her to fuck me, and I know something about her. Plus, as you state, once that comfort level is there, some sexy talk and flirting can occur.

I actually prefer you know a little about me. It makes things a little easier when we first meet. It gives something to talk about, and in many cases, something to laugh about. :)

Screening is a good thing. Please tell me you social security number, and we can get things started. :)

But I've missed out on a lot of lovely ladies because I refused to give out my work info or send them a picture.  Between being here on TER for over 12 years, DC, and over 30 ok's on 411, I figure I've already got enough info on me floating around out there.  And as far as me knowing more about you than you about me?  Well, its your job to be out there, advertising yourself and wanting to be well known in order to attract clients.

But I do agree that some ladies are way more professional then others when it comes to the verification process. It shouldn't take a week, (which by that time I've moved on anyways), for a provider to respond to a request.

But to be clear, never, ever, compromise your safety,

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But I've missed out on a lot of lovely ladies because I refused to give out my work info or send them a picture.  Between being here on TER for over 12 years, DC, and over 30 ok's on 411, I figure I've already got enough info on me floating around out there.  And as far as me knowing more about you than you about me?  Well, its your job to be out there, advertising yourself and wanting to be well known in order to attract clients.  
   
 But I do agree that some ladies are way more professional then others when it comes to the verification process. It shouldn't take a week, (which by that time I've moved on anyways), for a provider to respond to a request.  
   
 But to be clear, never, ever, compromise your safety,
Good point some escorts are more professional others.Illegal business clients and escorts should be helpful screening process.

This makes sense to who? So you take the info someone gives you over a phone,you make a couple of calls.Seems to be ok.You open your door to this WM corporate type your all looking for, everything's going well till your grabbed,sliced or punched out in your VIP space. Now what? Oh that info helped. Was It Worth it? Was It Really? Yeah he's going to jail. Is he?

If he expects to see you with compromised screening or asks inappropriate questions, you know very well he wasn't really cool. The curmudgeon who gives info up front>the unverifiable charmer. There should be no 'halfway', especially between now and November. With this business, it's hard to think of lost money that may go to another girl. However, some of these guys know that. They want to sound like a catch to distract from the fact that they won't provide info. They want you to feel you'll regret not seeing them. But, if they expect you to bend rules and take risks before even meeting you, what will they expect in session?  

My advice is to focus like mad on the verifiable ones and your current clients; every second you spend coddling the rest is time you could have spent on yourself or your real clients.  

The only thing I've heard of when guys are self-employed, willing to show ID, but don't have references or employment info is when someone meets up with them in a brief, non-sexual encounter (a coffee shop or food court) with them showing ID. These are for special cases only, not meant to be a common occurrence. There is a small charge for this encounter and absolutely no sex or hobby talk, but it helps newbies with no employment info who are otherwise fine. I've not done this myself, but my friends that have tried it did wind up with active clients. (Info on this abbreviated due to this being a public board.)

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i've been self-employed basically since i graduated college (quite a number of years ago now...*ahem*). i've been hobbying only for about 5 years. maybe i'm lucky, but screening and verification have never been an issue. early on, i believe i gave providers enough verifiable background information regarding my business name and contracting offices for whom i had worked. whatever their individual processes, they seemed satisfied enough. i wasn't hesitant or uncomfortable with the process mainly because i myself could verify the provider (through sites like this one). why should they not be able to verify me as well? self-employment or not, it's better for both of us.  

one person for whom i'm truly thankful is a provider who (knowing i was self-employed, compliant with her screening process, and after having a seen me) immediately whitelisted me here after our session together. i didn't even have to ask. she just saw that it would benefit someone in my position and did it voluntarily. whitelist references aren't the be-all-end-all substitute for screening, but they definitely streamlined things in my case.  

ymmv...

Posted By: Sex-Aeterna

   
 The only thing I've heard of when guys are self-employed, willing to show ID, but don't have references or employment info is when someone meets up with them in a brief, non-sexual encounter (a coffee shop or food court) with them showing ID. These are for special cases only, not meant to be a common occurrence. There is a small charge for this encounter and absolutely no sex or hobby talk, but it helps newbies with no employment info who are otherwise fine. I've not done this myself, but my friends that have tried it did wind up with active clients.

and make your own safety the top priority, always.

Even if you have to pass up 50% of the inquiries you get, it is well worth it.  It will only take one real bum to mess up your life.

It seems as if you have more concern for these losers than for yourself.  You have to correct that idea.  Once you do, you'll be proud of yourself for having principles and won't feel that "buzzkill" feeling

Ahhh the fish.... Always the voice of reason !! 😉

x

Want a board name I told her about Ter If you post A few review chances are you not the cops or a thug especially if did it over a year or more. So just by having A ter name could good enough and posting on message board could prove you name if that lady ask.

screening is not a buzzkill at all. If you had an 8 to 5 job, you have responsibilities etc.. this is just the same. this is your job. Do you not like doing your job? then maybe you should look into doing something else. Ok i was being exaggerate, but you get my point.

You are finding it tedious for one reason alone, you are allowing people to pull shit like this to you. Im not saying people wont try to haggle, or avoid giving info etc... im saying that, when you deal with a client who hasnt given you any info, and you allow for a conversation to drag without any screening info given prior any communication between you both, thats gonna drain you emotionally, and also be a big waste of time.

I had recently a person filling out my form. he filled it out completely except for the phone number. he included just the area code. i thought it was a mistake when the form was sent so i sent him a friendly email letting him know of the mistake. He replied a long email explaining why he wouldnt share his number. I totally respect his reasons... but my screening is my screening. I get plenty requests from people who have no problem sharing that info. I follow the industry standards so my screening is by all definitions, standard. At that point I told him that when he was ready to fill out my form properly, to try again. I ended any communication at that point. simple.I found out that when you drag communication with people who are on the fence or think that they are "special" and dont need to participate in my screening, thats someone I do not need to meet. i dont need the money that bad. Safety first.

wait..... Lol so, if someone has to carry out one or two dull work responsibilities, you would encourage them to just strap the job entirely and do something else? Lmao! That's a tad extreme and unrealistic., huh?  There are plenty of things in life that I love doing and my lifestyle/career choice happens to be one of them. My enjoyment should be evident by the amount of time and care I give my perspective clients, even when they're not being completely fair. Your advice about scrapping the whole job would make sense if I had flat out protested against screening due to my absolute hatred of performing the process.  
But, as I wrote in my original post.. It's a buzzkill and not the highlight of my interactions. Ultimately, I wanted to express that hobbiest are not the only ones frustrated when screening doesn't go smoothly; that even though some of us want to...performing personalized screening for each person is hard to keep track of.  

I'm hoping you'll allow me to change your use of "tedious" and replace it with "exhausting". Tedious kind of implies that I consider screening redundant and unimportant, which is the opposite of what is happening. You're right in saying that I'm allowing conversations to drag and that it's draining me. Me wanting to make the process as easy as I can for him puts me in situations where im tracking down agency bookers and googling life stories. I'll do what you said in keeping the conversations short once i start to notice unprofessional behavior.  

Sorry about the long posts everybody. I'll try and cut it down next time..

I get requests for half assed verification all the time. My safety is top priority. and I can usually tell someone will be a problem or not when they send me a text or email with "You available now?" No name, no reference of where they saw my ad, no hello, nothing. It's very disrespectful and makes me not even want to continue the conversation. My screening form is very clear. and if you didn't read my website why even contact me?

Can we do the CIM thing now?

Someone above mentioned exchanging socials now.. sooooo??

LE and crazies.
You have your screening criteria. If it's obvious the potential client is unwilling to comply  politely decline and waste no time with additional email exchanges.
Not sure what your requirements are but name & references should be adequate. A board history that includes reviews and White List Referrals should also ease concerns.  Employment info is going to be a deal killer for many and actually is useless.  If LE wants to set you up ( which is very...very rare ) they'll have no prob creating a fake job verification .

The important things to remember:
You always have the right to say no
Trust your instincts
Don't get sucked into time wasting email exchanges that are going nowhere  
Check references
Check board history

Once you are satisfied with the legitimacy of a potential client. , yes the back & forth flirty contacts are fun . But it's up to you .

 
Screening is important for all of us. I won't see a lady if she doesn't demonstrate a smart verification protocol .

Just this morning I had a guy who had no references, no board presence, and didn't want to give work info for privacy concerns. He wanted to meet in public so I could "see how great of a guy he was"  

Screening isn't just for safety it's to weed out crazy time wasters. I told him to find someone else and he said that he should do a background check on me.  

Like dude, do you not hear how crazy you sound?

Totally grateful for guys who get it and just give you the info you ask without the cock and bull, it really sets a relaxed tone for our time together imho.

..I'm sorry to hear about the major creeptitude in which you've been subjected on this fine summer morning. Hopefully, you've not allowed it to affect your day. Still waiting to see a photo spread of you in your school clothes btw. Lol! Holding breath

And what they don't realize is that when they give us the info needed upfront we don't even remember it. Lol. We check it, it's confirmed, he's verified and the name is saved in my phone. Now all future bookings is done with a simple text and coordination of our schedules. Hell if it's done in the first email I have time to ask his favorite color, drink of choice and Lingerie and shoe request.  

Posted By: lily.adele
Just this morning I had a guy who had no references, no board presence, and didn't want to give work info for privacy concerns. He wanted to meet in public so I could "see how great of a guy he was"  
   
 Screening isn't just for safety it's to weed out crazy time wasters. I told him to find someone else and he said that he should do a background check on me.  
 
 Like dude, do you not hear how crazy you sound?  
   
 Totally grateful for guys who get it and just give you the info you ask without the cock and bull, it really sets a relaxed tone for our time together imho.

I see A lot of the feed back has been centered around the importance and necessity of proper screening. I completely agree with all of you 100%. Reading over my OP as well as some of my replies I guess I didn't correctly express the actual problem I'm having and I also feel I should explain what I mean by me not sticking to my requirements. My fault.  

My problem? Obvi, screening has to be done...but the lack of the complete screening info that should be offered in an initial email is causing me to play 21 questions. The info I ask for is basic and simple and listed on my site...but instead of directing him to that page, I almost always walk them through the process.. I don't have this - ok, then give me that - I'm not comfortable with giving you that, can I just do this - no, but how about we try doing - hmmm, let me see if I can get that...

Eventually, I get the info I need...but come on....  
I'm hoping, if there are any newer hobbiest using this forum as some sort of guide in reasearching P4P etiquette...
We WANT to talk to you!... For hours and hours and overnight and over weekends (haha) But, you gotta come prepared and I'll stop confusing you by not establishing proper boundaries

Multiple times on this very thread, you've seemed apologetic when there was neither need nor even demand for it. The moment you seem apologetic about yourself and your policies, you've attracted the assholes. Some are looking to see what they can get away with and look for that opening with a sweet lady. A hundred emails stating you need screening info won't deter some jokers from continuing to withhold info if the tone sounds at all apologetic. Give one polite, firm response to a nervous prospect and move on. They'll pony up or move on. If it's hard thinking about the money lost, get an assistant. Xo

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The last thing she want to do here is come off as a "bitch", and in that regard she is most definitely succeeding. Do you have any idea how many women get on our "must miss" list by coming on here, whining about their "stupid" clients and acting like a spoiled rotten bitch.

I give kudos to SSJ for trying to feel safe and respect her clients at the same time. Even "nice guys" if they aren't a spineless jellyfish, have no desire to be brow beaten about screening, or about anything else for that matter. Good for you SSJ for keeping that thought in minds when making your posts today.

Between being bitchy by doing the things you listed (things I never advocated in my post) and trimming back your email correspondence with those withholding info (which I stated in my post.)

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I find it to be a side to this business that I don't care for. It seems to have become more and more arduous as time goes by. The fake google voice numbers, phone tag, the "I don't want to give you my number, give me yours I'll call you." "I'm a good guy, dont let this business jade you; you have to trust a little."  

The same old BS over and over again becomes taxing and is a buzzkill. But then I think about a girlfriend of mine, who last month, was viciously raped, robbed and beaten up. She hasn't been to work since. She sits in her house and cries or stares off into space. At this point she is nothing like she was before the rape and she's in danger of losing everything she worked so hard for because she's not working and her bills aren't getting paid.  

Incidentally, she did screen him. He banked on her being too afraid to go to the cops and apparently when he stole her money he saw her drivers license with her info.  

It only took one bad person to completely change her life and outlook forever. And she blames herself. She said she tried her hardest to fight back but she said trying to fight someone off in towering thigh high fuck me boots who stood a foot taller than her and had the element of surprise, he attacked her the minute she opened the door, was futile.  

Don't ever stop screening, if it becomes to taxing hire an assistant (something I'm in the process of doing) and always put your wallet in a safe or don't bring it with you. My friend will never be the same and it breaks my heart.

 

 

 

Posted By: SavannahStJames
I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  
   
 In the beginning, I was very trusting and I made a lot of silly mistakes. I gave people the benefit of the doubt because obviously, when we're sharing such intimate experiences, how could anyone ever tell a lie? I remember the look on my "booker's" face when I came out of an appointment and handed him a personal check signed by my client, John Doe. Lmaoooo  
   
 Anywho... Having to maintain my screening requirements, which are pretty standard, has been very tough lately. Guys don't want to give personal info for employment verifications; they don't belong to sites for fear of a trail; either they haven't seen anyone or the women they have seen are fly by night pros or the women they have seen would give them shit for seeing someone else..  
   
 What am I suppose to do? Had a conversation with someone today via email and he sounded reallllly cool, but he didn't want to give up any info. I understand that. But the trust he was asking me to give him seemed inappropriate.. I looked at my responses and it made me look as if I were some twit, lounging in my apt on a satin pillow, popping my gum and being unreasonable.  
   
 What's half way? I don't want u to send photo copies of your passport but at the same time, I need to know who you are...  
   
 P.S. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like to know a guy's name before being asked if I CIM.. Just sayin lol

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In the past, I worked for a few agencies who did not screen. And yea, some of the guys I met there were cool guys. But they were extreme last-minute bookers, and definitely weren't going to feel comfortable with a screening process of ANY sort. I mean, they were basically calling 1-800-DIAL-A-HO and taking the first person who showed up (blonde, redhead, Asian, whatever. Just get here quick!). But that didn't mean they were bad people.  

I'm not sorry I met (most) of them, although I did have some REALLY hairy and negative situations. (I'm really lucky I didn't find myself in true danger.) But I definitely met some decent guys. So I sort of get where you're coming from.  

But fast forward 7 years... I still speak to NONE of them.  

The just didn't have the respect for my time, or business.... they had no consideration for the actual work (physical and emotional) that goes into the service I gave them. They just wanted someone to 'hang out.' They liked me because I was 'cool.' But I was the girl from 1-800-DIAL-A-HO. So that's kind of how they treated me. It got annoying when they'd text me at, like, 1AM and then expect me to stay overnight (awake all night, too) for a nominal fee.  

When I was newly independent, I tried to be 'cool' with people, just like you... but, the people who gave me the run-around generally turned out to be timewasters. If I actually did meet them, they became problem clients (overstayers, people who called too often to chat, or didn't respect other boundaries).

Any time I've relaxed my screening requirements, or didn't follow my intuition as an independent, I was very sorry.  

If a guy will treat you with respect - not only you as a person, but you as a businessperson and service provider - he will want to prove to you that he's serious, well-meaning, etc. He won't want to be evasive, because that will put you on your guard.  

I mean, if I were booking a date... I'd want to do everything possible (short of giving out my SS number) to make sure she knew I was serious, that I'd pay, that I was a nice person and not harmful, etc. If I told her, 'Well, gee, I'm not even comfortable saying my first name, but you can call me Ddsfjdsljsdlfjsdl'... well, I just wouldn't say that, because it comes across as completely douchey (I got told that a few days ago by a TER member).  

BUT, if a girl is new, like you, it can make HER feel like she has something to prove to HIM. And that's what he's counting on. Trust me, if he gets you in his clutches, he will take advantage and drain the f*** out of your time and energy. I mean, where does that stop? When it's time to leave, and he'll make you feel bad for trying to politely hasten him on his way? When he keeps texting/calling you asking for free dates and making you feel badly for not accepting?

Nice guys will read your site/ads before contacting you, and will either respect your boundaries, or call someone else... you might have to explain things ONCE if they truly are newbies. But if they persist... then they are likely not going to be good clients BCD.

If you feel like a twit going back and forth, it's likely not because you are... it's because you're inexperienced and grappling for the right words to say. You might want to ask some other ladies who've been in the business how they'd deal w/the same questions... message boards are great for that type of thing :)

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Posted By: SavannahStJames
I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  
   
 In the beginning, I was very trusting and I made a lot of silly mistakes. I gave people the benefit of the doubt because obviously, when we're sharing such intimate experiences, how could anyone ever tell a lie? I remember the look on my "booker's" face when I came out of an appointment and handed him a personal check signed by my client, John Doe. Lmaoooo  
   
 Anywho... Having to maintain my screening requirements, which are pretty standard, has been very tough lately. Guys don't want to give personal info for employment verifications; they don't belong to sites for fear of a trail; either they haven't seen anyone or the women they have seen are fly by night pros or the women they have seen would give them shit for seeing someone else..  
   
 What am I suppose to do? Had a conversation with someone today via email and he sounded reallllly cool, but he didn't want to give up any info. I understand that. But the trust he was asking me to give him seemed inappropriate.. I looked at my responses and it made me look as if I were some twit, lounging in my apt on a satin pillow, popping my gum and being unreasonable.  
   
 What's half way? I don't want u to send photo copies of your passport but at the same time, I need to know who you are...  
   
 P.S. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like to know a guy's name before being asked if I CIM.. Just sayin lol

GaGambler441 reads

but not for "services rendered" of course and not to any lady I didn't know REALLY well.

Actually I do have a couple of SB who I have given checks to, I never really thought much about it.

GaGambler432 reads

and we both know I don't "roll that way"  

Besides, I wouldn't to make Jack jealous. lol

Did the gag just admit hes open to meet a pretty tgirl? I call that progress ladies and gentlemen.

or I'm sending it as a deposit to someone I trust very well.

I'd never insult a gal by using a check on our first date, or second, or third for that matter

He knows from experience

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Im guessing the story didn't make much sense because I failed to mention that the personal check was literally signed "John Doe" making it worthless.. I laugh about it now but i definitely cried at the time LOL   Ahhh,  what an expensive lesson! Needless to say, my Mr. Pimpington was quite annoyed..

I think this took place on my second or third night

I couldn't tell you for sure what happened between me and John Doe regarding payment.. .But as I exited his apt building I could feel my adrenaline rush subsiding and the folded check in my hand. (Cue Violin)  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Real “screening" was something I never had to worry about until recently, when I decided to go above the radar. Prior to, I was just seeing clients based on a small referral base of clients I already trusted and could easily get al the digs without actually collecting the information per say.
That said, I don't know how you run your business but I think if you have a website that  clearly has your screening policy and rates and you have someone unwilling to provide the information when they contact you, it should be considered a red flag. If I was in this situation, I may re emphasize the need to screen and the fact that it's in the best interest of both of us and if the client still was unwilling to provide the info I would just let them go.
Also, since I've just recently opened myself up to marketing to the public, I also give clients multiple methods to do screening. One is minimally invasive, one is newbie friendly, the other is in between.

feel safe. Hobbyists do not need to know what methods each provider uses to stay safe. If a guy (or gal--Lopaw and others) can't give the lady the info she needs then he/she can move on.

Are you willing to give your personal information to a client? I'd like to know your real name before I let you suck my dick BB? Some how I've gotten over the fact your not going to give me that info and go for it anyways. I guess it all boils down to your tolerance for risk.

Click, click, click and I'm done.  Booked for next week.  It's that simple.

Spending 5 days in Vegas next week. Click, click, click. Booked up for the entire time by well reviewed ladies on TER. Did not have to give up any info.

I'm willing to give you my first name, but my work info, well that's another story.  That's just asking for trouble.  Anybody that gives out that kinda of info is just plain stupid..........

exactly what you ladies need to do to protect yourselves.
When you're a respectable guy and get vetted as quickly  
as we sometime do, we have no way to understand how
many inquiries you get each day.  

You have to be very courageous to open that door and let
a guy in that first time, walk up to him and start kissing him
like he's a BFF...  my hat and clothes are off to you all.  

Thank you for seeing me. You rock my world

Personally, I've never cared for giving my place of employment.  I don't understand how that makes you safer.  I will give out my name and a reference if possible, and you can always check my ID at the door.  It's easy to google someone or white page them, and if you want more info can always pop for the $30 background check I guess.  I do pay for p411 and I think that should be enough at this point.  Not dissing your need for safety, every girl has to do what makes her feel comfortable.

Posted By: SavannahStJames
I think we can all agree that process of screening is the suckiest part of reaching out to someone new.  Sometimes it goes smoothly: Informative initial email from client, warm prompt reply from provider, quick reference check response from outside source and then a clear confirmation of logistics. When the process goes this smoothly, it seems like both parties are more relaxed which saves energy for cute flirting and some sexy teasing.. HOWEVER, when the screening process turns into a clusterfuck...you begin to say to yourself... Do I even want to still fuck this person?  
   
 In the beginning, I was very trusting and I made a lot of silly mistakes. I gave people the benefit of the doubt because obviously, when we're sharing such intimate experiences, how could anyone ever tell a lie? I remember the look on my "booker's" face when I came out of an appointment and handed him a personal check signed by my client, John Doe. Lmaoooo  
   
 Anywho... Having to maintain my screening requirements, which are pretty standard, has been very tough lately. Guys don't want to give personal info for employment verifications; they don't belong to sites for fear of a trail; either they haven't seen anyone or the women they have seen are fly by night pros or the women they have seen would give them shit for seeing someone else..  
   
 What am I suppose to do? Had a conversation with someone today via email and he sounded reallllly cool, but he didn't want to give up any info. I understand that. But the trust he was asking me to give him seemed inappropriate.. I looked at my responses and it made me look as if I were some twit, lounging in my apt on a satin pillow, popping my gum and being unreasonable.  
   
 What's half way? I don't want u to send photo copies of your passport but at the same time, I need to know who you are...  
   
 P.S. Call me old fashioned, but I'd like to know a guy's name before being asked if I CIM.. Just sayin lol

Smallfish429 reads

From a client perspective, I tend to mostly see girls from BP, and would have no real references for you.  I'm also self employed, so employment verification is a non-starter.  But to be completely honest...I'd be *seriously* reluctant to give any provider employment details, because of fear she might decide to engage in a bit of extortion.  Although I'd have no problem giving you my TER alias that I submit reviews on for you to browse.  For other screening, it depends greatly on the type of appointment:

For OC to my home, the provider already has my real (first) name, my home address, and my real phone number.  My feeling is that I've already placed an immense amount of trust in the provider, and by comparison, I have no idea what her real phone number, legal name, etc is.  So I'm going to be fairly reluctant to submit to much more screening.

For OC when I'm travelling and staying at a hotel...haven't done this yet, but I expect I'd need to take several additional steps to let the provider feel comfortable.  Providing my TER ID (or really the alias that I submit reviews under), face picture, maybe a photo of my DL (with DOB, signature, and LIC# blacked out, of course...not a fan of ID theft!), meeting her in a neutral location, etc would all be fine.

For IC to a hotel...you can have a face pic and a pic of my car so you know who to look for.  But really the provider needs to be making *me* feel comfortable in this situation.

For IC to a residence, same as OC to a hotel.  We both need to feel comfortable.

Oh, and btw, if either of us ever brings up a specific service in our pre-meeting conversations, the appointment should be cancelled.  [Day, time, length, donation, ETA] are the ONLY things I will discuss before we meet.

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