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..what it all boiled down to was her profile did not say "really bi" and even though my review mentioned she was TER said she had to contact them in order for it to be changed. I told her, she had it changed and my original performance score was accepted.  

Stupid and a pain but it is what it is.

Dear fellow reviewers--

I don't know how many of you have had reviews rejected by TER because the review "supposedly" gave too high marks--despite the fact that you discussed in the review services provided that would raise the allowable score.  I have had this happen several times and have argued--sometimes successfully, sometimes not--with "TER Support" about the score I have given.  

This happened again recently.  Below is my response to TER Support.  Please take a look at it and let us all know if you have had similar problems and how they might have been resolved.  I try my best to write a fair review and to score based upon Rule 8.  I'm sure you do, too.  It is frustrating when what my review actually recounts is disregarded when it comes to increasing the maximum allowable score for a provider.  These women make their living, in part, based upon our reviews.  Neither side should be hamstrung by mindless "rule enforcement" by TER Support.  Our reviews should stand as written unless provably false or misleading.  

Do you agree?

Here is my response to TER Support:

"Gentlemen--

This is getting rather tedious.  I am COMPLETELY familiar with the rules and ALWAYS strive to stay within them.  Hayley kissed me with tongue.  It is in my review.  I came in her mouth, BBBJ.  It's in the review.  We also discussed her willingness to have more than one guy at a time.  I didn't choose to do that, but rule 8 is clear that the service need only be available to make the provider eligible for a higher score.  That's in the review, too.

If her "existing" profile--whatever that is--is the only basis for scoring her, then why the Heck do we hobbyists bother writing reviews?  My review should modify any other previous reviews that may have neglected to mention some things either through oversight on the part of the writer or the fact that they did not explore all possibilities with the provider.  

Simply put, when a reviewer says that he did something with a provider, you should take that into consideration in allowing a particular score.  What, pray tell, is more valuable and indicative of what is possible than the accounts of reviewers.  

I am very frustrated by your response to this and other reviews I have written.  Personally, I have read hundreds, perhaps thousands of reviews by others, as I always do my homework before I select a provider.  Most of those reviews do not rise to the artistic and grammatical level of the reviews I have written for TER, either in quality or accuracy.  That's not arrogance, just plain fact.  

If there is some "base" supplied by the provider herself upon which to calibrate scores, then a review that adds to what she may have originally stated should be checked with her--not turned down out of hand.  My discussions with providers indicates that there is no such base menu of services that they list as available, so it seems to me you can only know what is so by reading--and taking into account--the reviews us hobbyists write.  But, if that is wrong and one of us writes about something that actually happened that is not on the base menu, that should be verified with the provider before rejecting the review.  It takes time and effort to write the reviews you publish on your site.  And, TER would be absolutely nowhere without our reviews.  You wouldn't have a business.  You wouldn't have anything to market.  Give us a little respect and credence, please!  You are selling what we give you.  

Having said all of that, please know that I am posting this email on a discussion board and am also copying Tor at Phoenix Fantasy.  You can confirm with him the statements and services I mention in my review.

As I have said in several of my reviews, I give high marks because I do my homework and only see providers who are likely to perform at that level.  My numbers are not inflated.  And, the feedback I get from other hobbyists is that they enjoy, appreciate and value my reviews--as I do theirs!

You have a really good thing going here--don't lose the support of those who make your business a success."  

WHAT SAY YE ALL

..what it all boiled down to was her profile did not say "really bi" and even though my review mentioned she was TER said she had to contact them in order for it to be changed. I told her, she had it changed and my original performance score was accepted.  

Stupid and a pain but it is what it is.

One gal I knew tried that and got delisted for her troubles.  (She wasn't the diplomatic type.)

Another thing for us reviewers to consider:  However bad we think it is for us, for gals, it's much worse.  Nearly every gal I know has complained to me of fake reviews, and having the hardest time getting TER to remove same.

For us, it's just our egos.  For the gals, it's their livelihood

..there is this one gal for whom I wrote her first review. TER thought she was the same as someone else so added my review to the list. Granted the appearance was uncannily similar but they were not one in the same. Not only that, TER had the other person's website and email on the profile. I pointed all this out. They refused to believe me, told me to fuck off and to have the gal contact them. She haggled with them for quite some time. They finally corrected her website link, name and email but refused to remove the other reviews. Luckily they were excellent.

Every person who writes lots of reviews goes through this.  Life is too short to bemoan.

Get over it and continue on

And why she should be a higher number but can't give it and you giving the highest you can.

I have had both good reviews and bad reviews rejected. Girls complain about bad "fake" reviews and guys complain about good "fake" reviews.  Most fake reviews are easy to spot, while others are better at hiding their subterfuge.  

IMHO, TER does a very good job in sorting through the bullshit so that mostly legitimate reviews remain. The fact that each side complains a little, means they strike a good balance. To paraphrase Churchill ... It is the worst of review systems, except for all the others that have been tried and failed

This doesn't seem very fair, but I am assuming that the services provided, the menu offered as it were, is pretty much set in place by the person who did the first review because that is all TER has to go with. I have wondered what happens when that first review just isn't totally accurate due to a YMMV thing or the original reviewer just didn't ask or care about certain services that were available. So if the first guy just wanted a quick bj or one position FS session the lady in question probably will never qualify for a high score if the menu listed doesn't show a lot of options that she is willing to provide. Does TER adjust the menu if subsequent reviewers indicate that more services are offered? I ask this also because I have read many reviews where in the profile an option is not listed as being provided, yet the reviewer talks about receiving it.

...by subsequent reviewers. That system works, somewhat. The OP could try filing a report about the services offered and site other reviews of this lady as evidence. If none of her other reviews state unequivocally she does provide said service TER will likely not make the change.

...modify that to say some don't give a damn and the others just don't happen to be involved in that particular decision.

In the not too distant past I would have given a reasoned explanation (see my reply to holliganmike23) of how you (the OP) could approach TER about getting the information on her profile changed and then resubmit your review, about how the First review is law, written in stone unless and until a problem report with verifiable evidence is submitted and TER makes the change. I wouldn't  necessarily stick up for TER but show how their system works and how to use it. Now...

I too have gone back and forth with TER about things from time to time and usually reach some kind of balance. However my most recent experience considered with the other times I've had to deal with their inconsistency has me leaning toward they just don't give a damn. I offered my own experience along with links to three other reviews to support the problem report I submitted. TER didn't reject my problem report. They didn't change the service offered to reflect what my problem report indicated. They chose to make it something else completely. (Service was marked "Don't know". I submitted "No". They changed it to "YMMV".) Back and forth with them resulted in it remaining "YMMV". It isn't accurate but they/he/she didn't care.

OP try doing a problem report, then resubmit your review. It might work. Yours isn't this first situation like this and it won't be the last.

Most of us rely on the description and the more detailed they are the better for us. Please do continue to describing your session and the numbers really do not matter as long as they are above a 7 (at least for me!)

There are better use of our time, rather then quibbling between a 7 or 8 or 9 - I really do not care about 10s and rarely read those reviews.

Posted By: Anallingus
Dear fellow reviewers--  
   
 I don't know how many of you have had reviews rejected by TER because the review "supposedly" gave too high marks--despite the fact that you discussed in the review services provided that would raise the allowable score.  I have had this happen several times and have argued--sometimes successfully, sometimes not--with "TER Support" about the score I have given.    
   
 This happened again recently.  Below is my response to TER Support.  Please take a look at it and let us all know if you have had similar problems and how they might have been resolved.  I try my best to write a fair review and to score based upon Rule 8.  I'm sure you do, too.  It is frustrating when what my review actually recounts is disregarded when it comes to increasing the maximum allowable score for a provider.  These women make their living, in part, based upon our reviews.  Neither side should be hamstrung by mindless "rule enforcement" by TER Support.  Our reviews should stand as written unless provably false or misleading.    
   
 Do you agree?  
   
 Here is my response to TER Support:  
   
 "Gentlemen--  
   
 This is getting rather tedious.  I am COMPLETELY familiar with the rules and ALWAYS strive to stay within them.  Hayley kissed me with tongue.  It is in my review.  I came in her mouth, BBBJ.  It's in the review.  We also discussed her willingness to have more than one guy at a time.  I didn't choose to do that, but rule 8 is clear that the service need only be available to make the provider eligible for a higher score.  That's in the review, too.  
   
 If her "existing" profile--whatever that is--is the only basis for scoring her, then why the Heck do we hobbyists bother writing reviews?  My review should modify any other previous reviews that may have neglected to mention some things either through oversight on the part of the writer or the fact that they did not explore all possibilities with the provider.    
   
 Simply put, when a reviewer says that he did something with a provider, you should take that into consideration in allowing a particular score.  What, pray tell, is more valuable and indicative of what is possible than the accounts of reviewers.    
   
 I am very frustrated by your response to this and other reviews I have written.  Personally, I have read hundreds, perhaps thousands of reviews by others, as I always do my homework before I select a provider.  Most of those reviews do not rise to the artistic and grammatical level of the reviews I have written for TER, either in quality or accuracy.  That's not arrogance, just plain fact.    
   
 If there is some "base" supplied by the provider herself upon which to calibrate scores, then a review that adds to what she may have originally stated should be checked with her--not turned down out of hand.  My discussions with providers indicates that there is no such base menu of services that they list as available, so it seems to me you can only know what is so by reading--and taking into account--the reviews us hobbyists write.  But, if that is wrong and one of us writes about something that actually happened that is not on the base menu, that should be verified with the provider before rejecting the review.  It takes time and effort to write the reviews you publish on your site.  And, TER would be absolutely nowhere without our reviews.  You wouldn't have a business.  You wouldn't have anything to market.  Give us a little respect and credence, please!  You are selling what we give you.    
   
 Having said all of that, please know that I am posting this email on a discussion board and am also copying Tor at Phoenix Fantasy.  You can confirm with him the statements and services I mention in my review.  
   
 As I have said in several of my reviews, I give high marks because I do my homework and only see providers who are likely to perform at that level.  My numbers are not inflated.  And, the feedback I get from other hobbyists is that they enjoy, appreciate and value my reviews--as I do theirs!  
   
 You have a really good thing going here--don't lose the support of those who make your business a success."    
   
 WHAT SAY YE ALL?  
   
 

I gave a FBSM provider a 7 for an outstanding performance. The ADMIN actually asked if I would like to give an 8 because other reviewers had experienced DFK. I declined because it was not offered to me.

I feel your pain that not all ADMIN are created equal. This is the worst review site, except for all the others.

First off, thank you for it reviews.  I have read many of them and find them to be particularly insightful and helpful.

Second. I have had the exact same issue, where my review documents a range of services we actually engaged in and then had my review disapproved because it didn't align with the profile established by the first reviewer.  I argued with them to no avail.  Totally nonsensical in my opinion to give the first review more weight than the next.

Posted By: Anallingus
Dear fellow reviewers--  
   
 I don't know how many of you have had reviews rejected by TER because the review "supposedly" gave too high marks--despite the fact that you discussed in the review services provided that would raise the allowable score.  I have had this happen several times and have argued--sometimes successfully, sometimes not--with "TER Support" about the score I have given.    
   
 This happened again recently.  Below is my response to TER Support.  Please take a look at it and let us all know if you have had similar problems and how they might have been resolved.  I try my best to write a fair review and to score based upon Rule 8.  I'm sure you do, too.  It is frustrating when what my review actually recounts is disregarded when it comes to increasing the maximum allowable score for a provider.  These women make their living, in part, based upon our reviews.  Neither side should be hamstrung by mindless "rule enforcement" by TER Support.  Our reviews should stand as written unless provably false or misleading.    
   
 Do you agree?  
   
 Here is my response to TER Support:  
   
 "Gentlemen--  
   
 This is getting rather tedious.  I am COMPLETELY familiar with the rules and ALWAYS strive to stay within them.  Hayley kissed me with tongue.  It is in my review.  I came in her mouth, BBBJ.  It's in the review.  We also discussed her willingness to have more than one guy at a time.  I didn't choose to do that, but rule 8 is clear that the service need only be available to make the provider eligible for a higher score.  That's in the review, too.  
   
 If her "existing" profile--whatever that is--is the only basis for scoring her, then why the Heck do we hobbyists bother writing reviews?  My review should modify any other previous reviews that may have neglected to mention some things either through oversight on the part of the writer or the fact that they did not explore all possibilities with the provider.    
   
 Simply put, when a reviewer says that he did something with a provider, you should take that into consideration in allowing a particular score.  What, pray tell, is more valuable and indicative of what is possible than the accounts of reviewers.    
   
 I am very frustrated by your response to this and other reviews I have written.  Personally, I have read hundreds, perhaps thousands of reviews by others, as I always do my homework before I select a provider.  Most of those reviews do not rise to the artistic and grammatical level of the reviews I have written for TER, either in quality or accuracy.  That's not arrogance, just plain fact.    
   
 If there is some "base" supplied by the provider herself upon which to calibrate scores, then a review that adds to what she may have originally stated should be checked with her--not turned down out of hand.  My discussions with providers indicates that there is no such base menu of services that they list as available, so it seems to me you can only know what is so by reading--and taking into account--the reviews us hobbyists write.  But, if that is wrong and one of us writes about something that actually happened that is not on the base menu, that should be verified with the provider before rejecting the review.  It takes time and effort to write the reviews you publish on your site.  And, TER would be absolutely nowhere without our reviews.  You wouldn't have a business.  You wouldn't have anything to market.  Give us a little respect and credence, please!  You are selling what we give you.    
   
 Having said all of that, please know that I am posting this email on a discussion board and am also copying Tor at Phoenix Fantasy.  You can confirm with him the statements and services I mention in my review.  
   
 As I have said in several of my reviews, I give high marks because I do my homework and only see providers who are likely to perform at that level.  My numbers are not inflated.  And, the feedback I get from other hobbyists is that they enjoy, appreciate and value my reviews--as I do theirs!  
   
 You have a really good thing going here--don't lose the support of those who make your business a success."    
   
 WHAT SAY YE ALL?  
   
 

Are the way to go I guess. Use the numbers as a guideline but put more weight to the actual blow by blow details if you pardon the pun. I agree with vjlovesbj in that have a minimum number to start with, i.e. a 6 or 7 but then base your decision on the details of most reviewers. That I guess will give the most accurate picture.

TER staff evaluating reviews. Some follow the guidelines better than others when accepting or rejecting reviews. It other businesses it is called consistency. Harder to achieve in some businesses than others.

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